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Admins, please change this page to "Sonic the Hedgehog."
Admins, please change this page to "Sonic the Hedgehog."
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I think he was called that in a Sonic instruction manual, but yeah, no relation to Mario.{{User:Knife/sig}} 15:08, 7 June 2007 (EDT) <small>I'm gonna change my name back to Spike</small>
I think he was called that in a Sonic instruction manual, but yeah, no relation to Mario.{{User:Knife/sig}} 15:08, 7 June 2007 (EDT) <small>I'm gonna change my name back to Spike</small>
He is called that cause hes blue and when you are at supersonic speed you are a blur, but yeah, nothing to do with Mario. By the way is there a Sonic wikipedia?'''Smileymiley5001'''


== April Fools Joke Image ==
== April Fools Joke Image ==
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{{User:Dom/sig|Juice and mushrooms}}
{{User:Dom/sig|Juice and mushrooms}}
==Stickers==
I believe the last two stickers are from [[wikipedia:Sonic Adventure|Sonic Adventure]] and/or [[wikipedia:Sonic Adventure 2|Sonic Adventure 2]].  In any case, they definitely aren't from the original two Sonic games. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 11:29, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
--[[User:Amy808080|Amy808080]] 21:50, 22 February 2011 (EST)
== Age ==
Right in the beginning it says that Sonic is 15 years old. Is this actually mentioned in a game(I don't play the Sonic series), or did Sonic first appear in a game 15 years ago?- I thought he was 18. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
Also it says tHAT he is the only known video game character to age. But didn't mario age from Baby mario?
{{User:Mario64fanatic/sig}}
I think "aging" means that he slightly ages between his games, like in reality. Mario for example doesn't age. He may have an infant form, but in the games he appears as an adult, he's always around the same age. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 13:34, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
I thought not only 1 or more video game characters were aged. Sonic first appeared in a game with his own name in 1991. {{User:Ultramariologan/sig}}
I never thought about his age intill now.Does anyone know exactly how old he is? {{User|amy808080}}
==3rd Mario and Sonic Game==
I still waiting for an article about the 3rd Mario and Sonic Game set at London 2012. I hope to here it's announcement soon.
Sincerely [[User:Sonicewan|Sonicewan]]
P.S. Sega have changed the voice cast for Sonic games again (except for Mike Pollock).
I did hear that the were making a New Mario and Sonic game. I cannot remember where I heard it from.--[[File:YoshiMP8Artwork.png|35px]][[User:YoshiGo99|YoshiGo99]][[File:YoshiNSMBW.png|35px]] 21:51, 22 February 2011 (EST)
:These are just rumors. We have to wait for official confirmation of the game before we assume. {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
== Sonic Characters have New Actors ==
Hello
Did you know that the Sonic Characters have new voice actors. Be aware of that for the 3rd Mario and Sonic Game. --[[User talk:Plumber690|Plumber690]] 20:25, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
==@Fawful117==
Why do you insist on removing that piece of information? That is who Sonic really is and that info should stay unless that info is somewhere else in the article. {{User|Zero777}}
That's the thing! Sonic's not the one who makes rash decisions, [[Knuckles]] is! Sometimes in the series, [[Dr. Eggman]] tricks Knuckles into doing certain things to help defeat Sonic! Like, take Sonic 3, for example. Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking that Sonic and [[Tails]] were bad guys who were trying to steal the Master Emerald. So, in conclusion, Knuckles is the one who makes rash decisions, not Sonic! >=(
[[User:Fawful117|Fawful117: The user arena! An awesome new thing!!!]] 17:25, 27 January 2012 (EST)
== Shortened trivia ==
I think It needs to be shortened.  A lot of the trivia is not very necessary and does not relate to Mario at all.
[[User:Goombob|Goombob XD]] ([[User talk:Goombob|talk]]) 14:48, 14 May 2013 (EDT)Goombob
:Actually most of it is to with Brawl, which is a spin-off series but still counts. However, some of it could probably be incorporated into the article. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::Done. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 15:12, 14 May 2013 (EDT)
:::Thanks, I've got my astronomy exam tomorrow, so I can't be as active as I'd like to be. {{User|Yoshi876}}
== Potential nod to old rivalry in the 2020 movie? ==
I was wondering if anyone thought it would be worth mentioning how in the movie, Sonic repeatedly says he ''hates'' mushrooms at the idea of a world full of nothing but mushrooms, which seems like it ''could'' be a dig at the amount of them in Mario games. Admittedly, the initial scene this is brought up contains some cues to "Mushroom Hill" from ''Sonic & Knuckles'', but the bashing thereof seems a tad suspect IMO. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:39, February 15, 2020 (EST)
:The same thought crossed my mind, but what would have really cemented it to me would have been if he said he's gotta "[[Super Mario Bros. (film)|trust the fungus]]" at some point, given how the other sketches on his world paper are all Sonic or Sega references. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:14, February 18, 2020 (EST)
::Well, (spoiler posting) given the ending has a red-clad mustachioed man stuck there and talking to the mushrooms like they're people after going crazy, there might be something...also, pretty sure it's consistently called "Mushroom Planet" in the film. Anyways, I don't think the planet itself was a reference so much as Sonic's very specific disdain for mushrooms. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:17, February 18, 2020 (EST)
:::I might have misheard the "Mushroom Planet" as "Mushroom Valley" at one point, but do you remember if it was called "Mushroom World" anywhere? I wonder if it's possible that the writers stumbled upon the Wikia version of the Mushroom World article (which this wiki previously resembled a while back, with the wild "Mario's planet" claims) and loosely based the concept on that. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:28, February 22, 2020 (EST)
::::Pretty sure it was never called that, though the thought also came up. Really though, it's more about Sonic's disgust than the location itself. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:42, February 22, 2020 (EST)
:::::To be fair, I'm not sure he was disgusted at the thought of mushrooms themselves so much as the idea of escaping to a world without a sign of sapient life, which would have made him even lonelier. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:32, February 22, 2020 (EST)
::::::True, though he sort of uses the mushrooms as a verbal scapegoat. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:54, February 22, 2020 (EST)
:::::::Okay, so months later, but although the Blu-ray commentary with Jeff Fowler and Ben Schwartz does not add anything, I recently found out that the [https://twitter.com/smpmusicandart/status/1237594077652070405 Thai dub] includes a more direct reference to Mario. I think what we can do is mention that first in the list of ''Mario'' references in film, and by extension, say that this could be a reference as well. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:40, November 18, 2020 (EST)
== Super Smash Bros. Melee hoax ==
Sonic and [[Tails]] were infamously featured in a hoax for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', stating that they could be unlocked by defeating 20 opponents in the Cruel Melee mode.<ref>[https://gaming-urban-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_and_Tails_in_Melee]</ref> This was proven false, however it was stated that Sonic was planned to appear in the game but was scrapped due to time constraints.
Should we include this in the article?
[[User:NintendoFan08|NintendoFan08]] 15:40, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
:Notable hoaxes are probably something we should leave to SmashWiki to cover. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:31, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
== Replace The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog with Sonic Origins +. ==
Self explainatory. Sonic Origins + is coming out this year in June, making it newer than the former. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 12:11, May 08, 2023 (CST)
:It can be updated once the game is released. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:15, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

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Admins, please change this page to "Sonic the Hedgehog."
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Klaus Kratchet (talk).

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Trivia[edit]

The trivia section of this article is overly long. It should be shortened, implemented in the main article or removed. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:59, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

I've never heard of him being called "blue blur" Before. Mario riding YoshiXzelionETC
Nor have I. I think that can be removed; it isn't very Mario-related anyway. YELLOWYOSHI398

I think he was called that in a Sonic instruction manual, but yeah, no relation to Mario.Knife (talk) 15:08, 7 June 2007 (EDT) I'm gonna change my name back to Spike

He is called that cause hes blue and when you are at supersonic speed you are a blur, but yeah, nothing to do with Mario. By the way is there a Sonic wikipedia?Smileymiley5001

April Fools Joke Image[edit]

I have the Electronic Gaming Monthly's Fake Image for Sonic and Tails being in Melee. Should I upload it? My Bloody Valentine

yeah!

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG You should!

Spin Dash article?[edit]

Huh... in the trailer, the Sonic attack looks exactly like the Spin Dash in the Sonic series... Click. Can someone do an article about that? or is better wait for the official name? (Super Sonic has an article, and we don't know the official SSBB name of this technique after all...)--Caith Sith 21:38, 10 October 2007 (EDT)

I think we should wait, and it might not even be the Spin Dash(Could be the Spin Attack, their different things). ~Uniju(T-C-E)
I agree with Uniju, we should wait for official confirmation. My Bloody Valentine
Quite obviously there will be a Sonic: Special Moves character update this week or the next, which will give official names for some of the moves. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 21:46, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
DUH! :P My Bloody Valentine
Ok :P--Caith Sith 21:50, 10 October 2007 (EDT)
Speak of the devil, it was today, and it is called Spin Dash. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 03:04, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Spring[edit]

Look in the video, when there fighting on Skyworld. A spring comes up. It looks liek its from sonic, because its a move in the sonic series... but its one of Tail's moves. Add to article? Full Metal MoogleKirbyWalk.gif

You can mention it. My Bloody Valentine

Confirmed as a move. Sprite of Rex from Super Mario WorldPeachycakes 3.14

Super Sonic- evidence that it's his Final Smash[edit]

Found a gameplay vid where Sonic gets a Smash Ball. What Final Smash does he use? Why, Super Sonic. I think we can change that "may or may not be his Final Smash" bit now. ;)

Here's a link to the vid: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/15372

Don't worry- already got this on the Super Sonic talk page as well. Dinosaur bob 19:13, 11 October 2007 (EDT)

Quotes[edit]

Can we add quotes from games from his own series? Giratinabylydarioss8.jpgPalkia47Palkia.png Dialga.png

No. Time Questions 05:36, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Plus he says some pretty cheesy things.Knife (talk) 16:44, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

Trivia[edit]

While the April Fools joke trivia seems fine, are the other two bits of trivia really neccessary? :| My Bloody Valentine

2 Infoboxes...[edit]

I saw that recent addition - is that really necessary? Could the User who added that please explain their reasoning?

th_DimentioSigLeft.png Dom »» McTalk Juice and mushrooms th_SMKDimentiobyStooben.png

Stickers[edit]

I believe the last two stickers are from Sonic Adventure and/or Sonic Adventure 2. In any case, they definitely aren't from the original two Sonic games. Stumpers! 11:29, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

--Amy808080 21:50, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Age[edit]

Right in the beginning it says that Sonic is 15 years old. Is this actually mentioned in a game(I don't play the Sonic series), or did Sonic first appear in a game 15 years ago?- I thought he was 18. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

Also it says tHAT he is the only known video game character to age. But didn't mario age from Baby mario?

Breakdancemario.gifM64FanBreakdancemario.gif

I think "aging" means that he slightly ages between his games, like in reality. Mario for example doesn't age. He may have an infant form, but in the games he appears as an adult, he's always around the same age. - Gabumon from the Digimon franchise Gabumon(talk) 13:34, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

I thought not only 1 or more video game characters were aged. Sonic first appeared in a game with his own name in 1991. Artwork of Dry Bones from Mario Party 8.Happy Halloween! Bone Goomba.png I never thought about his age intill now.Does anyone know exactly how old he is? amy808080 (talk)

3rd Mario and Sonic Game[edit]

I still waiting for an article about the 3rd Mario and Sonic Game set at London 2012. I hope to here it's announcement soon.

Sincerely Sonicewan P.S. Sega have changed the voice cast for Sonic games again (except for Mike Pollock).

I did hear that the were making a New Mario and Sonic game. I cannot remember where I heard it from.--YoshiYoshiGo99Yoshi 21:51, 22 February 2011 (EST)

These are just rumors. We have to wait for official confirmation of the game before we assume. BabyLuigiFire.pngRay Trace(T|C)

Sonic Characters have New Actors[edit]

Hello

Did you know that the Sonic Characters have new voice actors. Be aware of that for the 3rd Mario and Sonic Game. --Plumber690 20:25, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

@Fawful117[edit]

Why do you insist on removing that piece of information? That is who Sonic really is and that info should stay unless that info is somewhere else in the article. Zero777 (talk)

That's the thing! Sonic's not the one who makes rash decisions, Knuckles is! Sometimes in the series, Dr. Eggman tricks Knuckles into doing certain things to help defeat Sonic! Like, take Sonic 3, for example. Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking that Sonic and Tails were bad guys who were trying to steal the Master Emerald. So, in conclusion, Knuckles is the one who makes rash decisions, not Sonic! >=(

Fawful117: The user arena! An awesome new thing!!! 17:25, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Shortened trivia[edit]

I think It needs to be shortened. A lot of the trivia is not very necessary and does not relate to Mario at all. Goombob XD (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2013 (EDT)Goombob

Actually most of it is to with Brawl, which is a spin-off series but still counts. However, some of it could probably be incorporated into the article. Yoshi876 (talk)
Done. Mario (Santa)'s map icon from Mario Kart Tour Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:12, 14 May 2013 (EDT)
Thanks, I've got my astronomy exam tomorrow, so I can't be as active as I'd like to be. Yoshi876 (talk)

Potential nod to old rivalry in the 2020 movie?[edit]

I was wondering if anyone thought it would be worth mentioning how in the movie, Sonic repeatedly says he hates mushrooms at the idea of a world full of nothing but mushrooms, which seems like it could be a dig at the amount of them in Mario games. Admittedly, the initial scene this is brought up contains some cues to "Mushroom Hill" from Sonic & Knuckles, but the bashing thereof seems a tad suspect IMO. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:39, February 15, 2020 (EST)

The same thought crossed my mind, but what would have really cemented it to me would have been if he said he's gotta "trust the fungus" at some point, given how the other sketches on his world paper are all Sonic or Sega references. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:14, February 18, 2020 (EST)
Well, (spoiler posting) given the ending has a red-clad mustachioed man stuck there and talking to the mushrooms like they're people after going crazy, there might be something...also, pretty sure it's consistently called "Mushroom Planet" in the film. Anyways, I don't think the planet itself was a reference so much as Sonic's very specific disdain for mushrooms. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:17, February 18, 2020 (EST)
I might have misheard the "Mushroom Planet" as "Mushroom Valley" at one point, but do you remember if it was called "Mushroom World" anywhere? I wonder if it's possible that the writers stumbled upon the Wikia version of the Mushroom World article (which this wiki previously resembled a while back, with the wild "Mario's planet" claims) and loosely based the concept on that. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:28, February 22, 2020 (EST)
Pretty sure it was never called that, though the thought also came up. Really though, it's more about Sonic's disgust than the location itself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:42, February 22, 2020 (EST)
To be fair, I'm not sure he was disgusted at the thought of mushrooms themselves so much as the idea of escaping to a world without a sign of sapient life, which would have made him even lonelier. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:32, February 22, 2020 (EST)
True, though he sort of uses the mushrooms as a verbal scapegoat. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:54, February 22, 2020 (EST)
Okay, so months later, but although the Blu-ray commentary with Jeff Fowler and Ben Schwartz does not add anything, I recently found out that the Thai dub includes a more direct reference to Mario. I think what we can do is mention that first in the list of Mario references in film, and by extension, say that this could be a reference as well. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:40, November 18, 2020 (EST)

Super Smash Bros. Melee hoax[edit]

Sonic and Tails were infamously featured in a hoax for Super Smash Bros. Melee, stating that they could be unlocked by defeating 20 opponents in the Cruel Melee mode.[1] This was proven false, however it was stated that Sonic was planned to appear in the game but was scrapped due to time constraints.

Should we include this in the article? NintendoFan08 15:40, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Notable hoaxes are probably something we should leave to SmashWiki to cover. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 16:31, October 31, 2022 (EDT)

Replace The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog with Sonic Origins +.[edit]

Self explainatory. Sonic Origins + is coming out this year in June, making it newer than the former. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:11, May 08, 2023 (CST)

It can be updated once the game is released. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:15, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
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