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== Is this page even necessary? ==
== Is this page even necessary? ==
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I'm not sure how something this generic deserves to have its own article. It's just a cursor, nothing more. Shall we delete it? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:23, 3 December 2018 (EST)
I'm not sure how something this generic deserves to have its own article. It's just a cursor, nothing more. Shall we delete it? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:23, 3 December 2018 (EST)
:Merge it with the section on the SNES article regarding the mouse, I'd say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:27, 3 December 2018 (EST)
:Merge it with the section on the SNES article regarding the mouse, I'd say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:27, 3 December 2018 (EST)
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== Delete or expand this page ==
== Delete or expand this page ==
 
{{Settled TPP}}
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{{Proposal outcome|passed|10-3-0|delete}}
Given the content on this page, it would normally qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]], and should therefore be deleted.
Given the content on this page, it would normally qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]], and should therefore be deleted.


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#{{User|Waluigi Time}} It's a standard cursor and doesn't need an article.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} It's a standard cursor and doesn't need an article.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Unless this is the official name, I don't see much point to this article to begin with. It's a standard mouse cursor. Merging the other cursors to this page would likely still qualify it as a generic subject, as all they do is point, click, and other things a standard cursor can do (except for the [[Star Cursor]], which can do a bit more).
#{{User|Alex95}} - Unless this is the official name, I don't see much point to this article to begin with. It's a standard mouse cursor. Merging the other cursors to this page would likely still qualify it as a generic subject, as all they do is point, click, and other things a standard cursor can do (except for the [[Star Cursor]], which can do a bit more).
#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} I don't see why there is an article about this, it's pretty much useless.
#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} I don't see why there is an article about this, it's pretty much useless having an article about a plain cursor.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Alex95. I also feel the Star Cursor should remain on its own article.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Alex95. I also feel the Star Cursor should remain on its own article.
#{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per all
#{{User|bwburke94}} Per all.
#{{User|Scrooge200}} Per all.
#{{user|Mario jc}} Doesn't seem like there's an official name for it judging by the comments, so sure. Per TheFlameChomp.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} You got a point. I don't see much point to this pointer.


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#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Second choice. P.S.: If you vote here, please tell me what you think should be included in this article.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Second choice. P.S.: If you vote here, please tell me what you think should be included in this article.
#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per my comment in the discussion above I personally think that there is enough unique uses of the curser to warrant a full article. As for cursers that should definitely be included in the article if this option passes would include the curser from 3DS/Switch versions of ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'', as that curser can stun enemies and throw [[turnip]]s, and also the curser from ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', with its ability being similar from the curser for Captain Toad (except for the turnip-trowing capabilities). Another potential curser to be included in this article would be the cursers from the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' series, with its ability to trow [[Star Bit]]s. Potentially the curser from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' could also get in due to its ability to change the look of the hand, but that probably would still qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]].
#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per my comment in the discussion above I personally think that there is enough unique uses of the curser to warrant a full article. As for cursers that should definitely be included in the article if this option passes would include the curser from 3DS/Switch versions of ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'', as that curser can stun enemies and throw [[turnip]]s, and also the curser from ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', with its ability being similar from the curser for Captain Toad (except for the turnip-trowing capabilities). Another potential curser to be included in this article would be the cursers from the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' series, with its ability to trow [[Star Bit]]s. Potentially the curser from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' could also get in due to its ability to change the look of the hand, but that probably would still qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]].
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all. Doc von Schmeltwick mentioned that it could be merged with the SNES section though. (possibly if the delete section wins)
===Leave as is===
===Leave as is===


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I don't see why Star Cursor has to be merged to a generic "Cursor" page when it has an official name of its own. My point was the "Cursor" page could use {{tem|main}} to link to Star Cursor. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:45, 4 December 2018 (EST)
I don't see why Star Cursor has to be merged to a generic "Cursor" page when it has an official name of its own. My point was the "Cursor" page could use {{tem|main}} to link to Star Cursor. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:45, 4 December 2018 (EST)
:Is there any source for the name Stripe Pointer? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:55, 11 December 2018 (EST)
::A quick Google search found only ''one'' non-Mario Wiki use of the term, which is [http://www.elginpk.com/worsley1011_2/jeong/3items.htm probably copied from us anyway]. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 04:04, 11 December 2018 (EST)
:::A search on the engine I used (with the quotation marks) found a few uses on a cursor-based website, suggesting it may be a valid generic phrase for striped cursors. [http://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_SNES/Manual/formated/Mario-s_Early_Years-_Fun_With_Letters_-_1994_-_Software_Toolworks,_Inc.,_The.pdf The ''Fun with Numbers'' manual], however, just calls it "the onscreen pointer." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:50, 12 December 2018 (EST)
::::@Niiue: Everything on that page links back to us, so yeah, it's not valid. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:51, 16 December 2018 (EST)
:::::R.I.P. this article. :( (unless it gets merged) Would we at least leave the picture as it is? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)
::::::Would Stripe Pointer fit for BJAODN? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:36, 18 December 2018 (EST)
:::::::With the quality of this article, yes, most likely. --'''[[File:Luigistandrpg3.gif|25px]][[User:GrainedCargo192|♠Grained]][[User talk:GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:green">Cargo</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:red">192♠</span>]][[File:SPP - Luigi Animation.gif|25px]]''' 16:20, 18 December 2018 (EST)
::::::::I think it's too boring to be BJAODN, but my criteria of what's funny or not isn't everyone elses's. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:42, 19 December 2018 (EST)
== Regarding the above ==
Apparently, this was planned to be expanded. However, i didn't notice the "Do nothing" option, which could also have saved the page. Anyone thinks this should be restored? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:09, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
:No. Please quite questioning every proposal under the sun. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 05:31, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
::Ok. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:11, May 5, 2019 (EDT)

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Categories "Items" and "Playable Characters"? Wouldn't Game Mechanics make more sense? Time Questions 06:56, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

Is this page even necessary?[edit]

I'm not sure how something this generic deserves to have its own article. It's just a cursor, nothing more. Shall we delete it? Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 19:23, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Merge it with the section on the SNES article regarding the mouse, I'd say. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:27, 3 December 2018 (EST)
Perhaps we could instead create on article for pointers/other navigational things , such as the pointer in the Nintendo 3DS and Nintendo Switch version of Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker as this would likely be an exepction in generic subjects policy as pointers/other navigational things uses vary. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 19:38, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Delete or expand this page[edit]

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delete 10-3-0
Given the content on this page, it would normally qualify as a generic subject, and should therefore be deleted.

However, in light of Doomhiker's suggestion above, I'd say that we should likely expand this article. Other games such as Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D World, and the 3DS/Switch versions of Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker make extended use of a "cursor" which might be worth documenting since it's potentially less generic. If that happens, I say we rename this page to Cursor and use {{main}} to link to Star Cursor.

Otherwise, I'd propose deleting it as a generic subject.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: December 18, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Delete[edit]

  1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) My preferred option.
  2. Waluigi Time (talk) It's a standard cursor and doesn't need an article.
  3. Alex95 (talk) - Unless this is the official name, I don't see much point to this article to begin with. It's a standard mouse cursor. Merging the other cursors to this page would likely still qualify it as a generic subject, as all they do is point, click, and other things a standard cursor can do (except for the Star Cursor, which can do a bit more).
  4. GrainedCargo192 (talk) I don't see why there is an article about this, it's pretty much useless having an article about a plain cursor.
  5. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per Alex95. I also feel the Star Cursor should remain on its own article.
  6. WeirdDave13 (talk) Per all
  7. bwburke94 (talk) Per all.
  8. Scrooge200 (talk) Per all.
  9. Mario jc (talk) Doesn't seem like there's an official name for it judging by the comments, so sure. Per TheFlameChomp.
  10. Bazooka Mario (talk) You got a point. I don't see much point to this pointer.

Expand[edit]

  1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Second choice. P.S.: If you vote here, please tell me what you think should be included in this article.
  2. Doomhiker (talk) Per my comment in the discussion above I personally think that there is enough unique uses of the curser to warrant a full article. As for cursers that should definitely be included in the article if this option passes would include the curser from 3DS/Switch versions of Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, as that curser can stun enemies and throw turnips, and also the curser from Super Mario 3D World, with its ability being similar from the curser for Captain Toad (except for the turnip-trowing capabilities). Another potential curser to be included in this article would be the cursers from the Super Mario Galaxy series, with its ability to trow Star Bits. Potentially the curser from Super Mario Maker could also get in due to its ability to change the look of the hand, but that probably would still qualify as a generic subject.
  3. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all. Doc von Schmeltwick mentioned that it could be merged with the SNES section though. (possibly if the delete section wins)

Leave as is[edit]

Comments[edit]

@Doomhiker The SMG one is called the Star Cursor, which has an article. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 19:02, 4 December 2018 (EST)

I don't see why Star Cursor has to be merged to a generic "Cursor" page when it has an official name of its own. My point was the "Cursor" page could use {{main}} to link to Star Cursor. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 19:45, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Is there any source for the name Stripe Pointer? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 03:55, 11 December 2018 (EST)
A quick Google search found only one non-Mario Wiki use of the term, which is probably copied from us anyway. Niiue (talk) 04:04, 11 December 2018 (EST)
A search on the engine I used (with the quotation marks) found a few uses on a cursor-based website, suggesting it may be a valid generic phrase for striped cursors. The Fun with Numbers manual, however, just calls it "the onscreen pointer." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:50, 12 December 2018 (EST)
@Niiue: Everything on that page links back to us, so yeah, it's not valid. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 12:51, 16 December 2018 (EST)
R.I.P. this article. :( (unless it gets merged) Would we at least leave the picture as it is? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 11:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)
Would Stripe Pointer fit for BJAODN? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 10:36, 18 December 2018 (EST)
With the quality of this article, yes, most likely. --Luigistandrpg3.gif♠GrainedCargo192♠Animation of Luigi in Super Princess Peach 16:20, 18 December 2018 (EST)
I think it's too boring to be BJAODN, but my criteria of what's funny or not isn't everyone elses's. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:42, 19 December 2018 (EST)

Regarding the above[edit]

Apparently, this was planned to be expanded. However, i didn't notice the "Do nothing" option, which could also have saved the page. Anyone thinks this should be restored? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 02:09, April 18, 2019 (EDT)

No. Please quite questioning every proposal under the sun. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 05:31, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
Ok. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 07:11, May 5, 2019 (EDT)