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==Usage==
==Usage==
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I cannot recall Spiny Shells ever actually being used in the game for any purpose; this appears to simply be a graphical layer that the head and feet are superimposed against. Indeed, if memory serves me correctly, in the first two ''Paper Mario'' games, Spinies went into their eggs to attack. Can someone corroborate this? I'm sort of away from my system at the moment.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:18, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
I cannot recall Spiny Shells ever actually being used in the game for any purpose; this appears to simply be a graphical layer that the head and feet are superimposed against. Indeed, if memory serves me correctly, in the first two ''Paper Mario'' games, Spinies went into their eggs to attack. Can someone corroborate this? I'm sort of away from my system at the moment.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:18, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:It appears that they do go into their eggs to attack, as seen [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNl4YUA3WQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m3s here], so it does seem possible that it is just a graphical layer. If it is, I'm not sure this image is really necessary. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:28, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:It appears that they do go into their eggs to attack, as seen [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNl4YUA3WQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m3s here], so it does seem possible that it is just a graphical layer. If it is, I'm not sure this image is really necessary. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 17:28, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
::Sure looks a lot like a graphical layer. The red seems to be have been done in either Microsoft Paint or Photoshopped as I see black near the bottom of the red section. – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 17:31, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
::Sure looks a lot like a graphical layer. The red seems to be have been done in either Microsoft Paint or Photoshopped as I see black near the bottom of the red section. – [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 17:31, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:::I noticed that too, but a lot of ''TTYD'' graphics look kinda dirty up close. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:40, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:::I noticed that too, but a lot of ''TTYD'' graphics look kinda dirty up close. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:40, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:By going frame-by-frame in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=275vq1rLU3E this] video you can see that the Spinies never actually go in their shell as depicted in the image. Looking at the Spiny [https://www.spriters-resource.com/gamecube/pmttyd/sheet/93652/ sprite sheet], you can also see that the Spiny Shell is assembled from two separate sprites. I have added a description clarifying that to this file and the pages it appears in. {{User:LadySophie17/sig}} 17:10, December 29, 2024 (EST)
==Keep or Delete==
{{settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|0-9|delete}}
(See discussion above) This image is actually two sprites from the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/gamecube/pmttyd/sheet/93652/ Spiny sprite sheet], and a Spiny Shell in the manner depicted is never seen in-game. On one hand, it is interesting to showcase an aspect of a character's design that is not normally seen, as long as it is indicated as such. On the other hand, It's never technically ''meant'' to be seen this way and so we cannot know if it is accurate. Keeping it might also open up a can of worms regarding any other images of this type that could be uploaded.
'''Proposer''': {{User|LadySophie17}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>January 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT</s> Closed early on January 5, 2025, 23:59 GMT
===Keep the image===
===Delete the image===
#{{User|LadySophie17}} As much as I like the illustrative value of showing a Spiny Shell like this, I feel this is the safer option here.
#{{User|Sparks}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Makes sense to us. Even in the worst-case scenario where we decide we want an image like this, re-uploading it is trivial.
#{{User|Rykitu}} Per all
#{{User|Technetium}} Per all.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per all
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per proposer.
===Discuss the image===

Latest revision as of 06:17, January 6, 2025

Usage[edit]

I cannot recall Spiny Shells ever actually being used in the game for any purpose; this appears to simply be a graphical layer that the head and feet are superimposed against. Indeed, if memory serves me correctly, in the first two Paper Mario games, Spinies went into their eggs to attack. Can someone corroborate this? I'm sort of away from my system at the moment.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

It appears that they do go into their eggs to attack, as seen here, so it does seem possible that it is just a graphical layer. If it is, I'm not sure this image is really necessary. --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
Sure looks a lot like a graphical layer. The red seems to be have been done in either Microsoft Paint or Photoshopped as I see black near the bottom of the red section. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 17:31, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
I noticed that too, but a lot of TTYD graphics look kinda dirty up close. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
By going frame-by-frame in this video you can see that the Spinies never actually go in their shell as depicted in the image. Looking at the Spiny sprite sheet, you can also see that the Spiny Shell is assembled from two separate sprites. I have added a description clarifying that to this file and the pages it appears in. — Lady Sophie Wiggler Sophie.png (T|C) 17:10, December 29, 2024 (EST)

Keep or Delete[edit]

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delete 0-9

(See discussion above) This image is actually two sprites from the Spiny sprite sheet, and a Spiny Shell in the manner depicted is never seen in-game. On one hand, it is interesting to showcase an aspect of a character's design that is not normally seen, as long as it is indicated as such. On the other hand, It's never technically meant to be seen this way and so we cannot know if it is accurate. Keeping it might also open up a can of worms regarding any other images of this type that could be uploaded.

Proposer: LadySophie17 (talk)
Deadline: January 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT Closed early on January 5, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Keep the image[edit]

Delete the image[edit]

  1. LadySophie17 (talk) As much as I like the illustrative value of showing a Spiny Shell like this, I feel this is the safer option here.
  2. Sparks (talk) Per proposal.
  3. Camwoodstock (talk) Makes sense to us. Even in the worst-case scenario where we decide we want an image like this, re-uploading it is trivial.
  4. Rykitu (talk) Per all
  5. Technetium (talk) Per all.
  6. EvieMaybe (talk) per all
  7. Waluigi Time (talk) Per all.
  8. Power Flotzo (talk) Per all.
  9. Super Mario RPG (talk) Per proposer.

Discuss the image[edit]