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==Where to put it?==
I added a new album, White Knuckle Scorin', to arranged albums,  but I'm not sure where it belongs. White Knuckle Scorin' really only has one Mario song "Ignorance is Bliss." What category would the song fall under? --[[User:Wanderingshadow|Wanderingshadow]] 08:16, 28 November 2006 (EST)
==Relevancy?==
==Relevancy?==


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:I think we should keep the page, but remove the link from the Main Page, because as Evan said, this isn't very relevant nor is it a good page. However, it does provide a central hub for the different music pages, so it should probably be kept as an article. --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 14:58, 3 June 2006 (EDT)
:I think we should keep the page, but remove the link from the Main Page, because as Evan said, this isn't very relevant nor is it a good page. However, it does provide a central hub for the different music pages, so it should probably be kept as an article. --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 14:58, 3 June 2006 (EDT)
:: Well, the page as a whole has potential, it just needs to be cleaned up a bit. Some of this information would be better on the Merchandise page. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]] 16:23, 3 June 2006 (EDT)
:::Does anyone know where to get the actual soundtracks to link to this page, especially Paper Mario: TTYD! [[User:DarkLinkMetroid|DarkLinkMetroid]] 00:30, 31 July 2006 (EDT)
I'm going to try and see what I can do personally and try and edit in some of the soundtracks and where you could download. I'm not promising anything though. --[[User:Sml007.5|Sml007.5]] 20:41, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
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Well, now there is plenty of revelancy. The starting foundation of the PipeProject should be uploading some of these listed song files. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 15:25, 21 September 2006 (EDT)
== OGG Files ==
What are these .ogg files?
== Music ==
Is it worth having articles for specific and re-accuring Mario themes (Such as Kooper road, Super Mario Bros overworld, Starman theme etc) and listing what games they turn up and when, you could say the theme has to appear in at least 3 Mario titles to have its own article. I think this is essential infomation about the Mario verse which is not included here, obviously it is a huge undertaking, but it surely shouldn't stop us.
This is something ive been trying to do recently (Only with the Super Mario Bros overworld) and ive got a list of 30 odd official remixes of it from different games, from the original to Super Mario world and Sonic and Mario at the winter Olympics.
[[User:Hunter Class|Hunter Class]] 01:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
== Download OGG files ==
Here's a good place to download OGG files without any complicated stuff: [http://www.mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&param=01&c=5&0=&filter=9.174 MFGG]
== SMB: Hop Step Jump ==
If there's the album art for SMB:HSJ, why isn't there an article about it?
{{User:SKmarioman/sig}}
== A list of Mario-related albums. ==
http://themushroomkingdom.net/mania/albums
It's quite lengthy.
[[User:JanuaryThunder|JanuaryThunder]] 07:02, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
==Quotation marks==
Despite the failure of [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/71#Do not surround song titles with quotes|this proposal]], the vast majority of album articles listed on this page (67 of them, by my count) do not use quotation marks in the track listings, with eight exceptions ([[Super Mario Sunshine Original Soundtrack]], [[Rare Treats: DONKEY KONG 64 Revisited]], [[Nintendo Sound Adventures]], [[Super Mario Bros.: Favorite Mushroom Party Hits!!!]], [[White Knuckle Scorin']], [[Donkey Kong Hits]], [[Club Nintendo Hits]], [[Super Mario Dance]]). The [[List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music]], meanwhile, does include quotation marks. What gives? My preferred solution would be to not use quotation marks in the track listings and instead only use them in running text, but I'm not sure if that would be allowed considering the result of that proposal. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 09:07, January 8, 2025 (EST)
:It's probably just a consistency issue that no one's bothered to deal with, they should be added to the rest of those pages. For what it's worth, Wikipedia uses quotations in track listings. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:42, January 25, 2025 (EST)
==Remove quotation marks from tracklists==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|13-0-0|remove}}
See section above. First off, I want to be very clear that this is '''NOT''' the same proposal as [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/71#Do not surround song titles with quotes|this similar one that failed a few months back]]. While that proposal was about completely removing quotation marks from all instances of song names, this one is narrower and is only about removing them from track listings. Affected pages are every page on the [[list of albums]], plus [[List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music]].
I can understand the rationale for using quotation marks when mentioning song titles in running text, as it distinguishes them to make it more clear to the reader that they are titles of tracks, especially since many tracks in the Super Mario franchise share their names with other subjects. This makes sense and is helpful to readers. However, in the context of a track listing specifically, the quotation marks are significantly less helpful because it's already obvious to the reader that they are the names of tracks, and it could give the misleading impression that the speech marks are actually part of the official titles. When you have a table for a tracklist with a field for the name of the track, I don't think it should contain anything but the actual name of the track. I believe this is the same reason (or at least similar) for us not using the quotation marks in article titles.
The biggest reason I think this is a good idea, though, is for cases of tracks that ''do'' actually have quotation marks in their official titles, forcing us to put two sets of quotation marks around the name. For example, see [[List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music#Super Mario World|""Hurry Up!""]] and [[List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music#Super Mario 64|""It's-a Me, Mario!""]]. This looks silly, clunky, and confusing, the polar opposite of the quotation marks' intended purpose of adding clarity.
Also note that, as I explained in the above section, '''what I am proposing is already the standard''' on the wiki, with about 67 album pages not using the quotation marks in track lists, which I personally think makes them look much neater and better compared to the nine outliers (eight albums + the Nintendo Music list). The point of this proposal is to make this standard into formal policy and resolve the inconsistency here.
So, three options:
*Support - remove quotation marks from the track listings on the eight album pages that already have them, as well on the [[List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music]].
*Oppose - add quotation marks to the track listings on the 67 album pages that don't currently have them.
*Do nothing - no standard is established and we continue with our current random and inconsistent ways (obviously the wrong option but I have to include it anyway).
To reiterate, this proposal has nothing to do with usage of quotation marks in running text, it is only about usage in lists of track names. The track lists on the main [[Nintendo Music]] page in the sections about playlists will also be unaffected, since the quotation marks actually serve a purpose there (to separate the track names from the game titles).
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot about the various [[:Category:Sound tests|sound test]] pages. Currently, zero of these use the quotation marks, so they'd be unaffected by option 1, but I suppose they'd have them added for consistency if option 2 were to pass.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Hewer}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>February 18, 2025, 23:59 GMT</s> Closed early on February 11, 2025, 23:59 GMT
==="Support"===
#{{User|Hewer|"Hewer"}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Camwoodstock|"Camwoodstock"}} "Per proposal. The point about double quotation marks in particular is worth noting, especially since those tend to be included on Nintendo Music."
#{{User|Arend|"Arend"}} Pick a physical CD album from your soundtrack library, take a gander at its tracklist on the back of the case or booklet, and tell me if all the tracks names have quotation marks around them. (Also, should we extend this to TV series? ''[[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' has quotation marks listed for all its episodes AND songs within the tables)
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} consistency "ftw"!
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per all.
#{{User|Rykitu|"Rykitu"}} "Per all".
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} ""Per all"".
#{{User|Nintendo101}} Per proposal. The "Hurry Up!" thing in the table bugs me too, and I appreciate that the proposal retains the application of quotation marks in body paragraphs for music tracks, episodes, etc.
#{{user|Dive Rocket Launcher}} I "support" this "proposal" per the "proposal's" "reasoning".
#{{User|Ahemtoday|"Ahemtoday"}} Feel like I should have voted on this way sooner than I did, given I'm the author of the much broader proposal mentioned here. These listings are one of the most egregious places I dislike them in. I think I'd also like a similar proposal dealing with navboxes and other places where song and episode titles appear on their own.
#{{User|Kaptain Skurvy|"Kaptain Skurvy"}} "Per all."
#{{User|SComic|"SComic"}} ""Per all!""
#{{User|Technetium|"Technetium"}} """Per all."""
==="Oppose"===
==="Do nothing"===
==="Comments"===
I guess there's also things like [[List of records in WarioWare: D.I.Y.]] and the song lists on pages for rhythm games like [[Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix]] and [[Donkey Konga]]. These don't currently use quotation marks, but may be changed if the second option were to win (the record lists probably wouldn't at least, since we don't normally use quotation marks for those even in running text). {{User:Hewer/sig}} 18:13, February 4, 2025 (EST)
@Arend: I wouldn't be opposed to that, but a funny thing there is that the [[List of The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 songs]] oddly doesn't use quotation marks for the songs despite being written in prose, while the episode titles do use them. Then again, maybe they're part of the "missing punctuation" mentioned by the rewrite template at the top. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 19:46, February 4, 2025 (EST)

Latest revision as of 20:07, February 11, 2025

Where to put it?[edit]

I added a new album, White Knuckle Scorin', to arranged albums, but I'm not sure where it belongs. White Knuckle Scorin' really only has one Mario song "Ignorance is Bliss." What category would the song fall under? --Wanderingshadow 08:16, 28 November 2006 (EST)

Relevancy?[edit]

I really don't see how relevant this can be. Most of this is just "this song was used here". Only a few things have links to downloads. I say it's really not worth keeping as a seperate page. Evan

I think we should keep the page, but remove the link from the Main Page, because as Evan said, this isn't very relevant nor is it a good page. However, it does provide a central hub for the different music pages, so it should probably be kept as an article. --Son of Suns 14:58, 3 June 2006 (EDT)
Well, the page as a whole has potential, it just needs to be cleaned up a bit. Some of this information would be better on the Merchandise page. -- Ghost Jam 16:23, 3 June 2006 (EDT)
Does anyone know where to get the actual soundtracks to link to this page, especially Paper Mario: TTYD! DarkLinkMetroid 00:30, 31 July 2006 (EDT)

I'm going to try and see what I can do personally and try and edit in some of the soundtracks and where you could download. I'm not promising anything though. --Sml007.5 20:41, 12 August 2006 (EDT)


Well, now there is plenty of revelancy. The starting foundation of the PipeProject should be uploading some of these listed song files. Wayoshi ( T·C·@ ) 15:25, 21 September 2006 (EDT)

OGG Files[edit]

What are these .ogg files?

Music[edit]

Is it worth having articles for specific and re-accuring Mario themes (Such as Kooper road, Super Mario Bros overworld, Starman theme etc) and listing what games they turn up and when, you could say the theme has to appear in at least 3 Mario titles to have its own article. I think this is essential infomation about the Mario verse which is not included here, obviously it is a huge undertaking, but it surely shouldn't stop us.

This is something ive been trying to do recently (Only with the Super Mario Bros overworld) and ive got a list of 30 odd official remixes of it from different games, from the original to Super Mario world and Sonic and Mario at the winter Olympics. Hunter Class 01:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Download OGG files[edit]

Here's a good place to download OGG files without any complicated stuff: MFGG

SMB: Hop Step Jump[edit]

If there's the album art for SMB:HSJ, why isn't there an article about it?

SKmaric (talk)

A list of Mario-related albums.[edit]

http://themushroomkingdom.net/mania/albums

It's quite lengthy.

JanuaryThunder 07:02, 10 May 2011 (EDT)

Quotation marks[edit]

Despite the failure of this proposal, the vast majority of album articles listed on this page (67 of them, by my count) do not use quotation marks in the track listings, with eight exceptions (Super Mario Sunshine Original Soundtrack, Rare Treats: DONKEY KONG 64 Revisited, Nintendo Sound Adventures, Super Mario Bros.: Favorite Mushroom Party Hits!!!, White Knuckle Scorin', Donkey Kong Hits, Club Nintendo Hits, Super Mario Dance). The List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music, meanwhile, does include quotation marks. What gives? My preferred solution would be to not use quotation marks in the track listings and instead only use them in running text, but I'm not sure if that would be allowed considering the result of that proposal. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 09:07, January 8, 2025 (EST)

It's probably just a consistency issue that no one's bothered to deal with, they should be added to the rest of those pages. For what it's worth, Wikipedia uses quotations in track listings. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:42, January 25, 2025 (EST)

Remove quotation marks from tracklists[edit]

Brown Block This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit this section or its subsections. If you wish to discuss the article, please do so in a new section below the proposal.

remove 13-0-0
See section above. First off, I want to be very clear that this is NOT the same proposal as this similar one that failed a few months back. While that proposal was about completely removing quotation marks from all instances of song names, this one is narrower and is only about removing them from track listings. Affected pages are every page on the list of albums, plus List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music.

I can understand the rationale for using quotation marks when mentioning song titles in running text, as it distinguishes them to make it more clear to the reader that they are titles of tracks, especially since many tracks in the Super Mario franchise share their names with other subjects. This makes sense and is helpful to readers. However, in the context of a track listing specifically, the quotation marks are significantly less helpful because it's already obvious to the reader that they are the names of tracks, and it could give the misleading impression that the speech marks are actually part of the official titles. When you have a table for a tracklist with a field for the name of the track, I don't think it should contain anything but the actual name of the track. I believe this is the same reason (or at least similar) for us not using the quotation marks in article titles.

The biggest reason I think this is a good idea, though, is for cases of tracks that do actually have quotation marks in their official titles, forcing us to put two sets of quotation marks around the name. For example, see ""Hurry Up!"" and ""It's-a Me, Mario!"". This looks silly, clunky, and confusing, the polar opposite of the quotation marks' intended purpose of adding clarity.

Also note that, as I explained in the above section, what I am proposing is already the standard on the wiki, with about 67 album pages not using the quotation marks in track lists, which I personally think makes them look much neater and better compared to the nine outliers (eight albums + the Nintendo Music list). The point of this proposal is to make this standard into formal policy and resolve the inconsistency here.

So, three options:

  • Support - remove quotation marks from the track listings on the eight album pages that already have them, as well on the List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music.
  • Oppose - add quotation marks to the track listings on the 67 album pages that don't currently have them.
  • Do nothing - no standard is established and we continue with our current random and inconsistent ways (obviously the wrong option but I have to include it anyway).

To reiterate, this proposal has nothing to do with usage of quotation marks in running text, it is only about usage in lists of track names. The track lists on the main Nintendo Music page in the sections about playlists will also be unaffected, since the quotation marks actually serve a purpose there (to separate the track names from the game titles).

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot about the various sound test pages. Currently, zero of these use the quotation marks, so they'd be unaffected by option 1, but I suppose they'd have them added for consistency if option 2 were to pass.

Proposer: Hewer (talk)
Deadline: February 18, 2025, 23:59 GMT Closed early on February 11, 2025, 23:59 GMT

"Support"[edit]

  1. "Hewer" (talk) Per proposal.
  2. "Camwoodstock" (talk) "Per proposal. The point about double quotation marks in particular is worth noting, especially since those tend to be included on Nintendo Music."
  3. "Arend" (talk) Pick a physical CD album from your soundtrack library, take a gander at its tracklist on the back of the case or booklet, and tell me if all the tracks names have quotation marks around them. (Also, should we extend this to TV series? The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 has quotation marks listed for all its episodes AND songs within the tables)
  4. EvieMaybe (talk) consistency "ftw"!
  5. Super Mario RPG (talk) Per all.
  6. "Rykitu" (talk) "Per all".
  7. ThePowerPlayer (talk) ""Per all"".
  8. Nintendo101 (talk) Per proposal. The "Hurry Up!" thing in the table bugs me too, and I appreciate that the proposal retains the application of quotation marks in body paragraphs for music tracks, episodes, etc.
  9. Dive Rocket Launcher (talk) I "support" this "proposal" per the "proposal's" "reasoning".
  10. "Ahemtoday" (talk) Feel like I should have voted on this way sooner than I did, given I'm the author of the much broader proposal mentioned here. These listings are one of the most egregious places I dislike them in. I think I'd also like a similar proposal dealing with navboxes and other places where song and episode titles appear on their own.
  11. "Kaptain Skurvy" (talk) "Per all."
  12. "SComic" (talk) ""Per all!""
  13. "Technetium" (talk) """Per all."""

"Oppose"[edit]

"Do nothing"[edit]

"Comments"[edit]

I guess there's also things like List of records in WarioWare: D.I.Y. and the song lists on pages for rhythm games like Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix and Donkey Konga. These don't currently use quotation marks, but may be changed if the second option were to win (the record lists probably wouldn't at least, since we don't normally use quotation marks for those even in running text). Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 18:13, February 4, 2025 (EST)

@Arend: I wouldn't be opposed to that, but a funny thing there is that the List of The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 songs oddly doesn't use quotation marks for the songs despite being written in prose, while the episode titles do use them. Then again, maybe they're part of the "missing punctuation" mentioned by the rewrite template at the top. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 19:46, February 4, 2025 (EST)