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#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Makes it much cleaner.
#{{User|PrincessPeachFan}} Makes it much cleaner.
#{{User|Rykitu}} Per PrincessPeachFan.
#{{User|Rykitu}} Per PrincessPeachFan.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} The Airship Fortress objects are Cannons, and the ''Tour'' objects are Pipes.


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====Comments ([Cannon Launch!])====
Personally, I'd rather split the ''Mario Kart Tour'' pipe into an article of its own; something like {{fake link|Pipe (''Mario Kart Tour'')}}. Its design is different, and doesn't behave like a regular Warp Pipe: it kind of looks like a piston or a pump; you pull it back and a reward pops out. As for the rest; the one from Run can stay, it's already similar enough to a Pipe Cannon, and I have no idea what the Airship Fortress cannon is (still) doing here, as we have dedicated articles to [[Cannon]] AND [[Cannon (Mario Kart series)]] where it is much better fit. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:52, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
Personally, I'd rather split the ''Mario Kart Tour'' pipe into an article of its own; something like {{fake link|Pipe (''Mario Kart Tour'')}}. Its design is different, and doesn't behave like a regular Warp Pipe: it kind of looks like a piston or a pump; you pull it back and a reward pops out. As for the rest; the one from Run can stay, it's already similar enough to a Pipe Cannon, and I have no idea what the Airship Fortress cannon is (still) doing here, as we have dedicated articles to [[Cannon]] AND [[Cannon (Mario Kart series)]] where it is much better fit. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:52, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
:Alternate idea: what if we moved the Airship Fortress info to [[giant cannon]]? Those things practically look like black Warp Pipes already in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', just like this giant cannon in Airship Fortress, and that course WAS based on the Airship levels in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', too.<br>Also, it occurred to me that tjis proposal might've worked better in a poll format. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:23, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
:Alternate idea: what if we moved the Airship Fortress info to [[giant cannon]]? Those things practically look like black Warp Pipes already in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'', just like this giant cannon in Airship Fortress, and that course WAS based on the Airship levels in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', too (although, [[:File:MKT Icon AirshipFortressRDS FireBro.png|''Tour'' seems to have reworked it]] into a typical [[Warp Cannon]], it seems).<br>Also, it occurred to me that this proposal might've worked better in a poll format. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:23, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
::{{@|PrincessPeachFan}} I agree with Arend on this, if you make those options I would vote for them. [[User:Sorbetti|Sorbetti]] ([[User talk:Sorbetti|talk]]) 10:13, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
@Arend: Only problem is that as I pointed out in the sections above, the DS Airship Fortress's one is labelled "Cannon" for its model. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 10:42, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
:Well, I suppose it would still be worth mentioning that it resembles a giant cannon, then. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:56, April 10, 2025 (EDT)
 
{{@|Arend}} Princesspeachfan mentioned you above, but wrote it wrong. [[User:Sorbetti|Sorbetti]] ([[User talk:Sorbetti|talk]]) 12:05, April 10, 2025 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 19:56, April 10, 2025

Japanese name romanization[edit]

Anyone who understands Japanese knows what's the romanization of the Japanese name? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi at 10:31, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

Mario Kart Tour[edit]

Are we sure that the ones in Tour are indeed Pipe Cannons? Because in the game, they're just referred to as "pipes". PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:09, October 2, 2022 (EDT)
In addition, the Nintendo DS Pocket Guide and Mario Kart 7 Prima's Strategy Guide don't refer to the one in Airship Fortress by name and the model for the Airship Fortress one is called "cannon". PrincessPeachFan (talk) 21:18, October 2, 2022 (EDT)

Deletion of Mario Kart and Tour sections[edit]

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As I pointed out above, the "Pipe Cannon" in Airship Fortress was never referred to by name and its model name is merely "cannon". Likewise, the Tour ones are merely called "pipes" and the firing action is because the game is a gacha game and is merely used to show the new things you have acquired. As such, I recommend deleting those two sections. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 01:04, January 27, 2025 (EST)

Delete seems... harsh. Worst comes to worst the section on the pipe would be merged into the Warp Pipe article. So like, this is a cannon that shoots. It doesn't have to shoot, items could just come out of the pipe normally, but it shoots. So yes, this is a Pipe Cannon. But saying "It hasn't been called a pipe cannon, then it's not a pipe cannon" tracks because of Fishin' Lakitu and Pirate Guy. "x with y called x" is not the same thing as "x with y called z"
My catch is that Super Mario Run is here. Super Mario Run does not name the pipes on the Remix 10 map at all, because it's just a doofy animation for going to the next area. Which puts this in a bind because by "x with y called x" is not the same thing as "x with y called z" logic, Super Mario Run would loose its section here. I'm personally biased toward keeping that section, and the status of both its pipe cannon and Mario Kart Tour's pipe cannon are just about the same unless intra-series continuity is giving Super Mario Run an edge Mario Kart Tour does not. Salmancer (talk) 06:25, January 27, 2025 (EST)
The Airship Fortress one needs to go as the model name indicates that the developers never saw it as a "Pipe Cannon". Meanwhile, I see the animation as just the "Hey, this is your new thing! Enjoy!" as part of the whole Gacha thing. We could merge Tour and Run with the Warp Pipe article. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 12:55, January 27, 2025 (EST)

Cleanup[edit]

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This article is something of a mess. We have the ones from DS Airship Fortress, Mario Kart Tour and Super Mario Run included but... DS - The one in DS is labelled "Cannon" meaning it's not a Pipe Cannon. The guides never call it by name either. Tour - This is where it gets tricky. They have a firing animation when you get your new thing but the game calls them "Pipe" never "Pipe Cannon". Run - It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck but judging from the citation needed, it's not called a duck.

As such, I have three options: Option 1, merge all three with Warp Pipe. Option 2, merge Airship Fortress with Cannon, Tour with Warp Pipe and leave Run here. Option 3, do nothing.

Proposer: PrincessPeachFan (talk)
Deadline: April 21, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Option 1: Merge all 3 with Warp Pipe[edit]

Option 2: Merge Airship Fortress with Cannon, Tour with Warp Pipe and leave Run here[edit]

  1. PrincessPeachFan (talk) Makes it much cleaner.
  2. Rykitu (talk) Per PrincessPeachFan.
  3. ThePowerPlayer (talk) The Airship Fortress objects are Cannons, and the Tour objects are Pipes.

Option 3: Do Nothing[edit]

  1. Sorbetti (talk) I agree with almost everything, except that I think the Mario Kart Tour pipes should have their own article. They are pipes, but they don't act like one, but rather like a sort of lucky box. They don't walk like a duck, they don't quack like a duck, but they look like a duck.

Comments ([Cannon Launch!])[edit]

Personally, I'd rather split the Mario Kart Tour pipe into an article of its own; something like Pipe (Mario Kart Tour). Its design is different, and doesn't behave like a regular Warp Pipe: it kind of looks like a piston or a pump; you pull it back and a reward pops out. As for the rest; the one from Run can stay, it's already similar enough to a Pipe Cannon, and I have no idea what the Airship Fortress cannon is (still) doing here, as we have dedicated articles to Cannon AND Cannon (Mario Kart series) where it is much better fit. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 12:52, April 9, 2025 (EDT)

Alternate idea: what if we moved the Airship Fortress info to giant cannon? Those things practically look like black Warp Pipes already in Super Mario Bros. 3, just like this giant cannon in Airship Fortress, and that course WAS based on the Airship levels in Super Mario Bros. 3, too (although, Tour seems to have reworked it into a typical Warp Cannon, it seems).
Also, it occurred to me that this proposal might've worked better in a poll format. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 19:23, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
@PrincessPeachFan I agree with Arend on this, if you make those options I would vote for them. Sorbetti (talk) 10:13, April 10, 2025 (EDT)

@Arend: Only problem is that as I pointed out in the sections above, the DS Airship Fortress's one is labelled "Cannon" for its model. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 10:42, April 10, 2025 (EDT)

Well, I suppose it would still be worth mentioning that it resembles a giant cannon, then. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 19:56, April 10, 2025 (EDT)

@Arend Princesspeachfan mentioned you above, but wrote it wrong. Sorbetti (talk) 12:05, April 10, 2025 (EDT)