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==proposal draft corner==
==proposal draft corner==
===Consistently split major appearances of reocurring locations===
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There are several reocurring locations in the Mario series that have a general article ([[Bowser's Castle]], [[Peach's Castle]], [[Yoshi's Island (location)|Yoshi's Island]], etcetera), and many of these have subpages that detail their appearances in specific games. However, I find the reasoning behind which appearances get their own pages and which don't to be quite inconsistent.
 
[[Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Odyssey)|Mushroom Kingdom (''Super Mario Odyssey'')]] gets its own page, as do many of Peach and Bowser's respective castles. However, SM64's Peach's Castle doesn't, and neither does PM64's Bowser's Castle. The most egregious example is [[Toad Town]], balancing several RPG appearances on top of one another and spreading the information about each across the whole article.
 
This proposal aims to define a consistent criteria for what does and doesn't warrant a split. Personally, I want to suggest that we consider function over form, and split '''every appearance that is on equal terms with other locations with their own article in the same game.'''
 
Just like how ''Odyssey'''s Mushroom Kingdom is just one of many kingdoms in the game and gets treated equally to the others, and ''Mario Golf'''s [[Yoshi's Island (golf course)]] is just one golf course out of many, every location that ''would'' be covered independently if it wasn't a recurring location visually and aesthetically should be split into its own page.
 
This proposal does not affect locations with a single major appearance and several minor ones, such as [[Isle Delfino]] or [[Comet Observatory]]. I do have another proposal in mind for those, but I will write it another time.
 
By my count, these pages would need to be created. It might seem like a big list, but most of it would just be copying over what is already in the base articles.
* [[Bowser's Castle]]:
** {{Fake link|Bowser's Keep (''Super Mario RPG'')}}
** {{Fake link|Bowser's Castle (''Paper Mario'')}}
** {{Fake link|Bowser's Castle (''Paper Mario: The Origami King'')}}
** {{Fake link|Bowser's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'')}}
** {{Fake link|Baby Bowser's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'')}}
** {{Fake link|Bowser's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story'')}}
* [[Peach's Castle]]:
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Super Mario RPG'')}}
** {{Fake link|Mushroom Castle (''Super Mario 64'')}} (covering both the original and the remake)
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Super Mario Odyssey'')}} (in the same vein as other kingdom sub-locations like [[Wedding Hall]] and [[Peronza Plaza]])
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Paper Mario'')}}
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'')}}
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story'')}}
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam'')}} (I'm not familiar enough with the game to be 100% sure. Input is welcome.)
** {{Fake link|Peach's Castle (''Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle'')}} (same case as Paper Jam)
* [[Toad Town]]
** {{Fake link|Mushroom Kingdom (''Super Mario RPG'')}}
** {{Fake link|Toad Town (''Paper Mario'')}}
** {{Fake link|Toad Town (''Paper Mario: The Origami King'')}}
** {{Fake link|Toad Town (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'')}}
** {{Fake link|Toad Town (''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story'')}}
* [[Yoshi's Island (location)|Yoshi's Island]]
** {{Fake link|Yo'ster Isle (''Super Mario RPG'')}}
** {{Fake link|Yoshi's Island (''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time'')}}
 
These are all the examples I could find, but suggestions are very welcome.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|EvieMaybe}}<br>
'''Deadline''':
 
====Support: I like the idea of standardizing our split criteria and I agree with your split criteria====
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per.
 
====Oppose: I like the idea of standardizing our split criteria but I do not agree with your split criteria====
 
====Oppose: I do not like the idea of standardizing our split criteria====
 
====Comments====
 
===Suffix all disambiguation articles with "(disambiguation)" and convert all the non-suffixed articles into redirects===
as it stands, the way disambiguation articles are handled in mariowiki is quite inconsistent. some of them are suffixed with "(disambiguation)", and some aren't. what is the [[MarioWiki:Naming#Shared_titles|official wiki policy]] for them?
 
"If there are five or more pages sharing the same name, then a disambiguation page must be used, although it may be given a "(disambiguation)" qualifier if one of the articles has the plain title. For example, the article Bowser's Castle is about Bowser's home, whereas Bowser's Castle (disambiguation) also links to other uses of the name, such as the game board and baseball stadium. Game series articles always get a series identifier regardless of whether or not the title is shared, such as Mario Kart (series). When disambiguation pages are used, the articles should only link to them in {{about}} when necessary, but if a disambiguation page is not used, the articles can merely link to the other same-named page."
 
what are the problems with this?
*it's needlessly complicated. why five exactly?
*it requires more active maintenance than it should. keeping track of if there's more than four pages with the same name
 
here's my proposed changes:
 
*move every disambiguation page to a version of it suffixed with (disambiguation) (ie, moving [[Chuck]]'s contents to {{Fake link|Chuck (disambiguation)}})
*convert all the non-suffixed links into a redirect to the suffixed article (ie, turning [[Chuck]] into a redirect to {{Fake link|Chuck (disambiguation)}})
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|EvieMaybe}}<br>
'''Deadline''':
 
====Support====
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per.
 
====Oppose====
 
====Comments====


==''Annalynn'' (PC/Switch)==
==''Annalynn'' (PC/Switch)==
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*The game takes several more cues from ''Mario Bros.'', including many references to the Game Boy Advance version specifically:
*The game takes several more cues from ''Mario Bros.'', including many references to the Game Boy Advance version specifically:
**The game's sound design and compressed voice clips heavily resemble Game Boy Advance ''Mario Bros''’s own.
**The game's sound design and compressed voice clips heavily resemble Game Boy Advance <i>Mario Bros</i>'s own.
**"Welcome to Antonball", the game's title theme, is a rearrangement of the title theme from ''Antonball Classic'', with an added initial fanfare and new instrumentation referencing the title theme from the Game Boy Advance version of ''Mario Bros.''.
**"Welcome to Antonball", the game's title theme, is a rearrangement of the title theme from ''Antonball Classic'', with an added initial fanfare and new instrumentation referencing the title theme from the Game Boy Advance version of ''Mario Bros.''.
**The game's round start theme, "On with the Show", is an arranged excerpt of "Spring" from {{wp|Antonio Vivaldi}}'s ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Seasons_(Vivaldi) The Four Seasons]'', much like how ''Mario Bros.''’s [[Game Start A|own round start theme]] is an arranged excerpt of {{wp|Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart}}'s {{wp|Eine kleine Nachtmusik}}.
**The game's round start theme, "On with the Show", is an arranged excerpt of "Spring" from {{wp|Antonio Vivaldi}}'s ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Seasons_(Vivaldi) The Four Seasons]'', much like how <i>Mario Bros</i>'s [[Game Start A|own round start theme]] is an arranged excerpt of {{wp|Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart}}'s {{wp|Eine kleine Nachtmusik}}.
**The game's borders are stylized to resemble arcade ''Mario Bros.''’s promotional art.
**The game's borders are stylized to resemble arcade <i>Mario Bros</i>'s promotional art.
**Anton's backflip move is similar to the [[Crouching High Jump]], being performed by jumping while crouching, although it does not need to be charged.
**Anton's backflip move is similar to the [[Crouching High Jump]], being performed by jumping while crouching, although it does not need to be charged.
**Boiler Sewers, the game's first level, references ''Mario Bros.''’s sewer setting.
**Boiler Sewers, the game's first level, references <i>Mario Bros</i>'s sewer setting.
**Snails behave similarly to [[Freezie]]s, making the floor slippery and being destroyed with one attack instead of being stunned.
**Snails behave similarly to [[Freezie]]s, making the floor slippery and being destroyed with one attack instead of being stunned.
**Thunder Daves function identically to [[Fireball (obstacle)|Fireball]]s.
**Thunder Daves function identically to [[Fireball (obstacle)|Fireball]]s.
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*Besides ''Mario Bros.'', ''Antonball Deluxe'' also features a few references to the ''[[Wario (franchise)|Wario]]'' franchise:  
*Besides ''Mario Bros.'', ''Antonball Deluxe'' also features a few references to the ''[[Wario (franchise)|Wario]]'' franchise:  
**Anton's design becomes even closer to Wario's. His sprite while clutching resembles Wario's [[Dash Attack]].  
**Anton's design becomes even closer to Wario's. His sprite while clutching resembles Wario's [[Dash Attack]].  
**The game's unlockable vinyls reference ''[[Wario Land 4]]''’s [[CD]]s.
**The game's unlockable vinyls reference [[''Wario Land 4'']]'s [[CD]]s.
**Wario and [[Jimmy T]] appear as "Special Thanks" in the game's credits.
**Wario and [[Jimmy T]] appear as "Special Thanks" in the game's credits.


*<i>Antonball</i> mode's bonus stages featuring various characters' faces resembles <i>Alleyway</i>'s bonus stages featuring sprites from ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''.
*DLC character "Fixed Gold Evil Baby Paul (Shiny)" references the ''[[Mario Kart (series)|Mario Kart]]'' series' character variants, particularly [[Baby Mario]] and [[Pink Gold Peach]].
*"Jam Jungle Jammin'"'s bongo and drum-only intro references "[[DK Island Swing]]".
*"Jam Jungle Jammin'"'s bongo and drum-only intro references "[[DK Island Swing]]".
*The "Super Gangston!" vinyl's cover references [https://www.deviantart.com/ddbug007/art/gangster-mario-48633233 an edit] of [[:File:SMS Clean Mario FLUDD Pose Artwork.png|a specific render]] of [[Mario]] and [[F.L.U.D.D.]] from ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', heavily compressed and recolored to match Anton's color scheme.
*One of the "Funny" images features the McDonald's Happy Meal [[Happy Meal#Take the Mario Challenge (September 2006)|Take the Mario Challenge]] "Mario Throw and Catch" toy, digitally edited to have Anton's color scheme.
*DLC character "Fixed Gold Evil Baby Paul (Shiny)" references the ''[[Mario Kart (series)|Mario Kart]]'' series' character variants, particularly [[Baby Mario]] and [[Pink Gold Peach]].
*The "Super Gangston!" vinyl's cover references [https://www.deviantart.com/ddbug007/art/gangster-mario-48633233 an edit] of [[:File:SMS Clean Mario FLUDD Pose Artwork.png|a specific render]] of [[Mario]] and [[F.L.U.D.D.]] from ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'', heavily compressed and recolored to match Anton's color scheme.


===''ANTONBLAST'' (PC/Switch)===
===''ANTONBLAST'' (PC/Switch)===
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**Anton's clutch attack from ''Antonball Deluxe'' is reworked to function closer to the [[Dash Attack]].
**Anton's clutch attack from ''Antonball Deluxe'' is reworked to function closer to the [[Dash Attack]].
**Crouching on steep slopes makes Anton [[roll]].
**Crouching on steep slopes makes Anton [[roll]].
**The game features several transformations akin to Wario's reactions, triggered by the enviroment.
***The game's angel transformations functions similarly to [[Puffy Wario]], while his petrified state resembles [[Frozen Wario]].
**Anton's laughter is created by consecutively pitching down individual "ha" soundbites, just like Wario's laugh in ''Wario Land 4''.
**Anton's laughter is created by consecutively pitching down individual "ha" soundbites, just like Wario's laugh in ''Wario Land 4''.
**The game features several transformations akin to Wario's reactions, triggered by the enviroment.
 
**The game's level structure is taken from ''Wario Land 4'', requiring the player to find a [[Switch (Wario Land 4)|Switch]]-like detonator and return to the level's entrance within a time limit, while Brulo Blocks (functioning similarly to [[Kaeru Block]]s) appear and disappear to alter the return path.
**The game's level structure is taken from ''Wario Land 4'', requiring the player to find a [[Switch (Wario Land 4)|Switch]]-like detonator and return to the level's entrance within a time limit, while Brulo Blocks (functioning similarly to [[Kaeru Block]]s) appear and disappear to alter the return path.
**Much like ''Virtual Boy Wario Land'', levels are built on two parallel planes that can be traversed utilizing [[Jump Transporter]]-like springs.
**Much like ''Virtual Boy Wario Land'', levels are built on two parallel planes that can be traversed utilizing [[Jump Transporter]]-like springs.
**Some levels feature rooms with an monochromatic red palette, referencing the [[Virtual Boy]].
**Several levels feature optional rooms with a monochromatic red palette and a unique chiptune track, referencing the [[Virtual Boy]].
**The game's collectible poker chips come in red and blue, with red ones being worth more points, and giant poker chips being even more valuable. This is a similar system to ''Wario Land 4''’s gems and [[diamond]]s.
 
**Anton's unlockable "Warrior Land" palette references Wario's ''[[Wario Land 3]]'' sprite, while Annie's "SS Syrup" palette references [[Captain Syrup]].
**The game's collectible poker chips come in red and blue, with red ones being worth more points, and giant poker chips being even more valuable. This is a similar system to <i>Wario Land 4</i>’s gems and [[diamond]]s.
**Pippos, the game's simplest enemy, can change color from their default yellow to blue when Anton performs the [[Ground Pound]]-like "Antomic Blast" near them. If defeated while blue, they yield better score. This behavior is similar to [[Marumen]].
 
**Ballbusters, returning from the previous games, are reimagined into the game's second basic enemy with a single sharp spike, much like [[Pirate Goom]], [[Mask-Guy]], [[Spearhead (enemy)|Spearhead]] and [[Spear-Mask]].
**Pippos are the game's simplest enemy, are unable to deal damage to Anton, and change color from their default yellow to blue when Anton performs the [[Ground Pound]]-like "Antomic Blast" near them. If defeated while blue, they yield better score. This behavior is similar to that of [[Marumen]].
**Beelzeballs behave identically to ''Virtual Boy Wario Land''’s swinging spike balls.
**Ballbusters, returning from the previous games, are reimagined into a second basic enemy with a pointed weapon, much like [[Pirate Goom]], [[Mask-Guy]], [[Spearhead (enemy)|Spearhead]], [[Spear-Mask]] and [[Pitchfork]].
**Beelzeballs behave identically to <i>Virtual Boy Wario Land</i>’s swinging spike balls.
**A later, larger variant of Ballbuster holds a large pitchfork in front of it, resembling the [[giant spear man]].
 
**Tallbuster is a long-bodied boss that pops out of gaps in the ground to attack, similar to [[Sand Fish]].
**Tallbuster is a long-bodied boss that pops out of gaps in the ground to attack, similar to [[Sand Fish]].
*The game's earlier demos feature [[grass]] that can be pulled to obtain healing beetroots, much like ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''’s [[vegetable]]s.
 
*[[Barrel Cannon]]-like cement mixers appear in various levels.
 
**One of the variations of Concrete Jungle's themes utilizes the same vocal sample as [[Crescent Moon Village]]'s theme, both taken from the Spectrasonics Vocal Planet series of sample CDs.
**The first theme for The Mad Mall greatly resembles [[Pinball Zone]]'s theme.
**Hell Manor, the game's final level, features a detonator at the very beginning of the stage, much like the [[Golden Passage]].
 
Non-Wario references:
*The game's earlier demos feature [[grass]] that can be pulled to obtain healing beetroots, much like <i>[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]</i>'s [[vegetable]]s.  
*[[Barrel Cannon]]-like cement mixers appear in most levels.
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*Totem enemies that behave identically to [[Screaming Pillar]]s appear in Cinnamon Springs.
*Totem enemies that behave identically to [[Screaming Pillar]]s appear in Cinnamon Springs.
*Various unlockable Spray Can palettes reference the ''Mario'' franchise.
**Anton's "Warrior Land" palette references Wario's sprite in ''[[Wario Land 3]]'', while Annie's equivalent "SS Syrup" palette references [[Captain Syrup]]'s sprite in <i>[[Wario Land II]]</i>'s [[Game Boy Color]] version.
**Anton's "So Retro" palette references Mario's sprite in ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''. Annie's version references Luigi's sprite.
**Anton's "Mom's Dress" palette references Wario's sprite in ''Wario Land 4''.
**Anton's "Country Monkey" palette references [[Donkey Kong]], with its description referencing <i>[[Donkey Kong 64]]</i>'s "''Oh, banana''" voice clip. Annie's version's description instead references [[Funky Kong]].

Latest revision as of 17:24, December 17, 2024

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Jump
Mario jumping
Mario jumping
First appearance Donkey Kong (1981)
Latest appearance Super Mario Party Jamboree (2024)
Used by Mario, Luigi
Effect Jumps into the air for various purposes
Input method A Button/B Button (most games)
Two Button (Horizontal Wii Remote)
Performed before Double Jump (airborne)
Double Jump (consecutive)
Floating Jump
Flutter Jump
Ground Pound
Midair Spin
Scuttle
Piggyback Jump
Stomp
Tornado Jump
Variants
Related
Comparable

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Annalynn (PC/Switch)

  • The game's climbing mechanics are borrowed directly from Donkey Kong Jr., with Annalynn climbing faster upwards if she's holding two ropes and slower if she's holding just one, and vice versa for climbing down.
  • Annalynn's "Just what I needed!" voice clip when collecting an item references the Super Mario Advance series' use of the line.

Anton series

  • Anton's design is based on Wario, while Annie was originally designed to serve as Anton's Mona before developing into her own character. Danton resembles both Luigi and Waluigi.

Antonball / Antonball Classic (PC)

Comparison of Anton's sprite in Antonball Classic and Mario's sprite in Alleyway.
Comparison of Mario's sprite in Alleyway and Anton's sprite in Antonball Classic.
  • Many of the game's elements are borrowed from Mario Bros., such as floors, Anton's death animation, the game's logo, and many sound effects.
  • The voice calling the game's name in the title screen references the Super Mario Advance series' own title screens.
  • The "Yeah!" voice clip at the end of the game's victory jingle mimics Mario's voice.
  • Anton's sprite is an edit of Mario's sprite from Alleyway.

Punchball Antonball (PC)

  • The game is heavily based on Punch Ball Mario Bros.. The player uses a Punch Ball to stun enemies that come out of pipes, and then kicks them to defeat them. When there's only one enemy remaining, it becomes faster.
  • The game's level theme (named "Punch Bowl" in Antonball Deluxe) is inspired by the Level 1 theme from the Game Boy Advance version of Mario Bros..

Antonball Deluxe (PC/Switch)

Title screen of Antonball Deluxe, displaying Anton's similarity to Wario, as well as the logo
Title screen of Antonball Deluxe, showing Anton (bottom right) and Danton (top right)'s similarity to Wario and Luigi. Also note the logo font's similarity to that of Mario Bros..

Being an enhanced and expanded remake of both Antonball Classic and Punchball Antonball, most references from those games are carried on to Antonball Deluxe.

  • The game takes several more cues from Mario Bros., including many references to the Game Boy Advance version specifically:
    • The game's sound design and compressed voice clips heavily resemble Game Boy Advance Mario Bros's own.
    • "Welcome to Antonball", the game's title theme, is a rearrangement of the title theme from Antonball Classic, with an added initial fanfare and new instrumentation referencing the title theme from the Game Boy Advance version of Mario Bros..
    • The game's round start theme, "On with the Show", is an arranged excerpt of "Spring" from Antonio Vivaldi's The Four Seasons, much like how Mario Bros's own round start theme is an arranged excerpt of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Eine kleine Nachtmusik.
    • The game's borders are stylized to resemble arcade Mario Bros's promotional art.
    • Anton's backflip move is similar to the Crouching High Jump, being performed by jumping while crouching, although it does not need to be charged.
    • Boiler Sewers, the game's first level, references Mario Bros's sewer setting.
    • Snails behave similarly to Freezies, making the floor slippery and being destroyed with one attack instead of being stunned.
    • Thunder Daves function identically to Fireballs.
    • The "Vs. Antonball" mode features throwable trash cans.
  • Besides Mario Bros., Antonball Deluxe also features a few references to the Wario franchise:
    • Anton's design becomes even closer to Wario's. His sprite while clutching resembles Wario's Dash Attack.
    • The game's unlockable vinyls reference ''Wario Land 4'''s CDs.
    • Wario and Jimmy T appear as "Special Thanks" in the game's credits.

ANTONBLAST (PC/Switch)

  • The game takes greater inspiration from the Wario Land series than it's predecessor, particularly Wario Land 4 (listed as an inspiration on the official Kickstarter page) and Virtual Boy Wario Land.
    • Anton's clutch attack from Antonball Deluxe is reworked to function closer to the Dash Attack.
    • Crouching on steep slopes makes Anton roll.
    • The game features several transformations akin to Wario's reactions, triggered by the enviroment.
      • The game's angel transformations functions similarly to Puffy Wario, while his petrified state resembles Frozen Wario.
    • Anton's laughter is created by consecutively pitching down individual "ha" soundbites, just like Wario's laugh in Wario Land 4.
    • The game's level structure is taken from Wario Land 4, requiring the player to find a Switch-like detonator and return to the level's entrance within a time limit, while Brulo Blocks (functioning similarly to Kaeru Blocks) appear and disappear to alter the return path.
    • Much like Virtual Boy Wario Land, levels are built on two parallel planes that can be traversed utilizing Jump Transporter-like springs.
    • Several levels feature optional rooms with a monochromatic red palette and a unique chiptune track, referencing the Virtual Boy.
    • The game's collectible poker chips come in red and blue, with red ones being worth more points, and giant poker chips being even more valuable. This is a similar system to Wario Land 4’s gems and diamonds.
    • Pippos are the game's simplest enemy, are unable to deal damage to Anton, and change color from their default yellow to blue when Anton performs the Ground Pound-like "Antomic Blast" near them. If defeated while blue, they yield better score. This behavior is similar to that of Marumen.
    • Ballbusters, returning from the previous games, are reimagined into a second basic enemy with a pointed weapon, much like Pirate Goom, Mask-Guy, Spearhead, Spear-Mask and Pitchfork.
    • Beelzeballs behave identically to Virtual Boy Wario Land’s swinging spike balls.
    • A later, larger variant of Ballbuster holds a large pitchfork in front of it, resembling the giant spear man.
    • Tallbuster is a long-bodied boss that pops out of gaps in the ground to attack, similar to Sand Fish.


    • One of the variations of Concrete Jungle's themes utilizes the same vocal sample as Crescent Moon Village's theme, both taken from the Spectrasonics Vocal Planet series of sample CDs.
    • The first theme for The Mad Mall greatly resembles Pinball Zone's theme.
    • Hell Manor, the game's final level, features a detonator at the very beginning of the stage, much like the Golden Passage.

Non-Wario references:

  • Totem enemies that behave identically to Screaming Pillars appear in Cinnamon Springs.
  • Various unlockable Spray Can palettes reference the Mario franchise.
    • Anton's "Warrior Land" palette references Wario's sprite in Wario Land 3, while Annie's equivalent "SS Syrup" palette references Captain Syrup's sprite in Wario Land II's Game Boy Color version.
    • Anton's "So Retro" palette references Mario's sprite in Super Mario Bros.. Annie's version references Luigi's sprite.
    • Anton's "Mom's Dress" palette references Wario's sprite in Wario Land 4.
    • Anton's "Country Monkey" palette references Donkey Kong, with its description referencing Donkey Kong 64's "Oh, banana" voice clip. Annie's version's description instead references Funky Kong.