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==Templates==
==Look for official English names==
===SSB Moves===
<See talk page.>
{|class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate crossover-ssb"
!style="background:#1FFFB9" colspan=2|{{edit|SSB Moves}} ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' moves
|-
!width=70px style=background:aquamarine|Neutral
|[[Blaster]] • [[Boomerang (move)|Boomerang]] • [[Charge Shot]] • [[Egg Lay]] • [[Falcon Punch]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Giant Punch]] • [[Green Fireball]] • [[Inhale]] • [[PK Fire]] • [[Pound]] • [[Thunder Jolt]]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Up
|[[Egg Throw]] • [[Falcon Dive]] • [[Final Cutter]] • [[Fire Fox]] • [[PK Thunder]] • [[Quick Attack]] • [[Screw Attack (move)|Screw Attack]] • [[Sing]] • [[Spin Attack (The Legend of Zelda)|Spin Attack]] • [[Spinning Kong]] • [[Super Jump Punch]]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Down
|[[Bomb (Metroid)|Bomb (''Metroid'')]] • [[Bomb (The Legend of Zelda)|Bomb (''The Legend of Zelda'')]] • [[Falcon Kick]] • [[Hand Slap]] • [[Luigi Cyclone]] • [[Mario Tornado]] • [[PSI Magnet]] • [[Reflector]] • [[Rest]] • [[Stone (move)|Stone]] • [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]] • [[Yoshi Bomb]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Misc.
|[[Jump]] • [[Shield]] • [[Smash Attack (move)|Smash Attack]] • [[Taunt]]
|}
 
===SSBM Moves===
{|class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate crossover-ssb"
!style="background:#1FFFB9" colspan=2|{{edit|SSBM Moves}} ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' moves
|-
!width=70px style=background:aquamarine|Neutral
|[[Blaster]] • [[Charge Shot]] • [[Chef (move)|Chef]] • [[Egg Lay]] • [[Fire Bow]] • [[Fire Breath]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Flare Blade]] • [[Giant Punch]] • [[Green Fireball]] • [[Hero's Bow]] • [[Ice Shot]] • [[Inhale]] • [[Megavitamin]] • [[Nayru's Love]] • [[Needle Storm]] • [[PK Flash]] • [[Rollout]] • [[Shadow Ball]] • [[Shield Breaker]] • [[Thunder Jolt]] • [[Toad (move)|Toad]] • [[Warlock Punch]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Up
|[[Agility]] • [[Belay]] • [[Blazer (Fire Emblem)|Blazer]] • [[Dark Dive]] • [[Dolphin Slash]] • [[Egg Throw]] • [[Falcon Dive]] • [[Farore's Wind]] • [[Final Cutter]] • [[Fire (move)|Fire]] • [[Fire Bird]] • [[Fire Fox]] • [[Peach Parasol (move)|Peach Parasol]] • [[PK Thunder]] • [[Quick Attack]] • [[Screw Attack (move)|Screw Attack]] • [[Sing]] • [[Spin Attack (The Legend of Zelda)|Spin Attack]] • [[Spinning Kong]] • [[Super Jump Punch]] • [[Teleport]] • [[Whirling Fortress]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Side
|[[Boomerang (move)|Boomerang]] • [[Cape]] • [[Chain]] • [[Confusion]] • [[Dancing Blade]] • [[Din's Fire]] • [[Double-Edge Dance]] • [[Egg Roll (move)|Egg Roll]] • [[Falco Phantasm]] • [[Fox Illusion]] • [[Gerudo Dragon]] • [[Green Missile]] • [[Hammer (move)|Hammer]] • [[Headbutt]] • [[Judge (move)|Judge]] • [[Koopa Klaw]] • [[Missile]] • [[Peach Bomber]] • [[PK Fire]] • [[Pound]] • [[Raptor Boost]] • [[Skull Bash]] • [[Squall Hammer]] • [[Super Sheet]] • [[Vanish]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Down
|[[Blizzard (Ice Climber)|Blizzard]] • [[Bomb (Metroid)|Bomb (''Metroid'')]] • [[Bomb (The Legend of Zelda)|Bomb (''The Legend of Zelda'')]] • [[Bowser Bomb (move)|Bowser Bomb]] • [[Counter (Fire Emblem)|Counter]] • [[Disable]] • [[Dr. Tornado]] • [[Falcon Kick]] • [[Hand Slap]] • [[Luigi Cyclone]] • [[Mario Tornado]] • [[Oil Panic (move)|Oil Panic]] • [[PSI Magnet]] • [[Reflector]] • [[Rest]] • [[Stone (move)|Stone]] • [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]] • [[Transform]] • [[Vegetable (move)|Vegetable]] • [[Wizard's Foot]] • [[Yoshi Bomb]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Misc.
|[[Air Dodge]] • [[Jump]] • [[Shield]] • [[Smash Attack (move)|Smash Attack]] • [[Taunt]] • [[Tether Recovery]]
|}
 
===SSBB Moves===
{|class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate crossover-ssb"
!style="background:#1FFFB9" colspan=2|{{edit|SSBB Moves}} ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' moves
|-
!width=70px style=background:aquamarine|Neutral
|[[Aura Sphere]] • [[Blaster]] • [[Bullet Seed]] • [[Charge Shot]] • [[Chef (move)|Chef]] • [[Chomp (Super Smash Bros. series)|Chomp]] • [[Egg Lay]] • [[Eruption]] • [[Falcon Punch]] • [[Fire Breath]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Flamethrower (move)|Flamethrower]] • [[Giant Punch]] • [[Green Fireball]] • [[Hero's Bow]] • [[Homing Attack]] • [[Inhale]] • [[Mach Tornado]] • [[Nayru's Love]] • [[Needle Storm]] • [[Palutena's Arrow]] • [[Paralyzer]] • [[Pikmin Pluck]] • [[PK Flash]] • [[PK Freeze]] • [[Popgun]] • [[Pound]] • [[Robo Beam]] • [[Rollout]] • [[Shield Breaker]] • [[Thunder Jolt]] • [[Toad (move)|Toad]] • [[Warlock Punch]] • [[Water Gun]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Up
|[[Aether]] • [[Corkscrew (Super Smash Bros. series)|Corkscrew]] • [[Cypher]] • [[Dark Dive]] • [[Dolphin Slash]] • [[Egg Throw]] • [[Extreme Speed]] • [[Falcon Dive]] • [[Farore's Wind]] • [[Final Cutter]] • [[Fire (move)|Fire]] • [[Fire Bird]] • [[Fire Fox]] • [[Fire Wolf]] • [[Fly (Pokémon)|Fly]] • [[Peach Parasol (move)|Peach Parasol]] • [[Pikmin Chain]] • [[PK Thunder]] • [[Plasma Wire]] • [[Quick Attack]] • [[Robo Burner]] • [[Rocketbarrel Boost]] • [[Screw Attack (move)|Screw Attack]] • [[Shuttle Loop]] • [[Sing]] • [[Spin Attack (The Legend of Zelda)|Spin Attack]] • [[Super Dedede Jump]] • [[Super Jump Punch]] • [[Vanish]] • [[Vine Whip]] • [[Waterfall]] • [[Whirling Fortress]] • [[Wings of Icarus]] • [[Wolf Flash]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Side
|[[Angel Ring]] • [[Arm Rotor]] • [[Belay]] • [[Boomerang (move)|Boomerang]] • [[Cape]] • [[Chain]] • [[Dancing Blade]] • [[Din's Fire]] • [[Drill Rush]] • [[Egg Roll (move)|Egg Roll]] • [[Falco Phantasm]] • [[Flame Choke]] • [[Flying Slam]] • [[Force Palm]] • [[Fox Illusion]] • [[Gale Boomerang]] • [[Green Missile]] • [[Hammer (move)|Hammer]] • [[Hand Grenade]] • [[Headbutt]] • [[Ice Shot]] • [[Jet Hammer]] • [[Judge (move)|Judge]] • [[Missile]] • [[Monkey Flip]] • [[Peach Bomber]] • [[Pikmin Throw]] • [[PK Fire]] • [[Plasma Whip]] • [[Quick Draw]] • [[Raptor Boost]] • [[Razor Leaf]] • [[Remote Controlled Missile]] • [[Rock Smash]] • [[Skull Bash]] • [[Spin Dash]] • [[Spinning Kong]] • [[Spring Jump (Sonic the Hedgehog)|Spring Jump]] • [[Squall Hammer]] • [[Waddle Dee Toss]] • [[Wario Bike]] • [[Withdraw]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Down
|[[Banana Peel (move)|Banana Peel]] • [[Blizzard (Ice Climber)|Blizzard]] • [[Bomb (Metroid)|Bomb (''Metroid'')]] • [[Bomb (The Legend of Zelda)|Bomb (''The Legend of Zelda'')]] • [[Bowser Bomb (move)|Bowser Bomb]] • [[C4]] • [[Counter (Fire Emblem)|Counter]] • [[Dimensional Cape]] • [[Double Team]] • [[F.L.U.D.D.]] • [[Falcon Kick]] • [[Flip Jump]] • [[Gyro]] • [[Hand Slap]] • [[Luigi Cyclone]] • [[Mirror Shield]] • [[Oil Panic (move)|Oil Panic]] • [[Pikmin Order]] • [[Pokémon Change]] • [[PSI Magnet]] • [[Reflector]] • [[Rest]] • [[Spin Charge]] • [[Stone (move)|Stone]] • [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]] • [[Transform]] • [[Vegetable (move)|Vegetable]] • [[Wario Waft]] • [[Wizard's Foot]] • [[Yoshi Bomb]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Final Smash
|[[Aura Storm]] • [[Beast Ganon]] • [[Blue Falcon]] • [[Cook Kirby]] • [[Critical Hit]] • [[Diffusion Beam]] • [[End of Day]] • [[Galaxia Darkness]] • [[Giga Bowser]] • [[Great Aether]] • [[Grenade Launcher]] • [[Iceberg (Final Smash)|Iceberg]] • [[Konga Beat]] • [[Landmaster]] • [[Light Arrow]] • [[Mario Finale]] • [[Negative Zone]] • [[Octopus (Final Smash)|Octopus]] • [[Palutena's Army]] • [[PK Starstorm]] • [[Power Suit Samus]] • [[Puff Up]] • [[Rocketbarrel Barrage]] • [[Super Dragon]] • [[Super Sonic]] • [[Triple Finish]] • [[Triforce Slash]] • [[Volt Tackle]] • [[Waddle Dee Army]] • [[Zero Laser]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Misc.
|[[Air Dodge]] • [[Footstool Jump]] • [[Gliding]] • [[Jump]] • [[Shield]] • [[Smash Attack (move)|Smash Attack]] • [[Taunt]] • [[Tether Recovery]]
|}
 
===SSB4 Moves===
{|class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate crossover-ssb"
!style="background:#1FFFB9" colspan=2|{{edit|SSB4 Moves}} ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]'' / ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Wii U]]'' moves
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!width=70px style=background:aquamarine|Neutral
|[[Aura Sphere]] • [[Autoreticle]] • [[Blade Beam]] • [[Blaster]] • [[Blurring Blade]] • [[Bonus Fruit]] • [[Bullet Climax]] • [[Charge Blast]] • [[Charge Shot]] • [[Chef (move)|Chef]] • [[Chomp (Super Smash Bros. series)|Chomp]] • [[Clown Cannon]] • [[Dragon Fang Shot]] • [[Eruption]] • [[Exploding Side Kick]] • [[Explosive Flame]] • [[Falcon Punch]] • [[Fire Breath]] • [[Fireball]] • [[Flame Pillar]] • [[Flamethrower (move)|Flamethrower]] • [[Flare Blade]] • [[Gale Strike]] • [[Giant Punch]] • [[Green Fireball]] • [[Grenade Launch]] • [[Hadoken]] • [[Heavenly Light]] • [[Hero's Bow]] • [[Homing Attack]] • [[Inhale]] • [[Laser Blaze]] • [[Luma Shot]] • [[Mach Tornado]] • [[Megavitamin]] • [[Monado Arts]] • [[Nayru's Love]] • [[Needle Storm]] • [[Palutena's Arrow]] • [[Paralyzer]] • [[Pikmin Pluck]] • [[PK Flash]] • [[PK Freeze]] • [[Pocket]] • [[Popgun]] • [[Pound]] • [[Robo Beam]] • [[Rollout]] • [[Shadow Ball]] • [[Shield Breaker]] • [[Shot Put]] • [[Shuriken of Light]] • [[Silver Bow]] • [[Straight Lunge]] • [[Sun Salutation]] • [[Thunder (Fire Emblem)|Thunder]] • [[Toad (move)|Toad]] • [[Trick Shot]] • [[Ultimate Uppercut]] • [[Warlock Punch]] • [[Water Shuriken]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Up
|[[Abandon Ship (move)|Abandon Ship]] • [[Aether]] • [[Air Slash]] • [[Arm Rocket]] • [[Balloon Trip (move)|Balloon Trip]] • [[Blazer (Fire Emblem)|Blazer]] • [[Boost Kick]] • [[Cannon Uppercut]] • [[Climhazzard]] • [[Corkscrew (Super Smash Bros. series)|Corkscrew]] • [[Dark Dive]] • [[Dolphin Slash]] • [[Draconic Ascent]] • [[Duck Jump]] • [[Egg Throw]] • [[Egg Lay]] • [[Elwind]] • [[Extreme Speed]] • [[Falcon Dive]] • [[Farore's Wind]] • [[Final Cutter]] • [[Fire (move)|Fire]] • [[Fire Bird]] • [[Fire Fox]] • [[Fly (Pokémon)|Fly]] • [[Helicopter Kick]] • [[Hero's Spin]] • [[Hydro Pump]] • [[Jump Glide]] • [[Launch Star]] • [[Lunar Launch]] • [[Pac-Jump]] • [[Peach Parasol (move)|Peach Parasol]] • [[Piston Punch]] • [[PK Thunder]] • [[Power of Flight]] • [[Quick Attack]] • [[Rising Uppercut]] • [[Robo Burner]] • [[Rocket Jump]] • [[Rocketbarrel Boost]] • [[Rush Coil]] • [[Screw Attack (move)|Screw Attack]] • [[Shoryuken]] • [[Shuttle Loop]] • [[Sing]] • [[Skyward Slash Dash]] • [[Soaring Axe Kick]] • [[Spin Attack (The Legend of Zelda)|Spin Attack]] • [[Spinning Kong]] • [[Spring Jump (Sonic the Hedgehog)|Spring Jump]] • [[Stone Scabbard]] • [[Super Dedede Jump]] • [[Super Hoop]] • [[Super Jump Punch]] • [[Teleport]] • [[Vanish]] • [[Warp]] • [[Whirling Fortress]] • [[Winged Pikmin]] • [[Witch Twist]] • [[Wolf Flash]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Side
|[[Airborne Assault]] • [[Angelic Missile]] • [[Arcfire]] • [[Arm Rotor]] • [[Back Slash]] • [[Boomerang (move)|Boomerang]] • [[Burning Dropkick]] • [[Burst Grenade]] • [[Cape]] • [[Chakram]] • [[Clay Shooting]] • [[Clown Kart Dash]] • [[Confusion]] • [[Crash Bomber]] • [[Cross Slash]] • [[Dancing Blade]] • [[Din's Fire]] • [[Double-Edge Dance]] • [[Dragon Lunge]] • [[Drill Rush]] • [[Egg Roll (move)|Egg Roll]] • [[Electroshock Arm]] • [[Falco Phantasm]] • [[Feint Jump]] • [[Flame Choke]] • [[Flare Blitz]] • [[Flying Slam]] • [[Force Palm]] • [[Fox Illusion]] • [[Gale Boomerang]] • [[Gordo Throw]] • [[Green Missile]] • [[Gunner Missile]] • [[Hammer Flip]] • [[Headache Maker]] • [[Headbutt]] • [[Header]] • [[Heel Slide]] • [[Jet Hammer]] • [[Jolt Haymaker]] • [[Judge (move)|Judge]] • [[Lloid Rocket]] • [[Metal Blade]] • [[Missile]] • [[Monkey Flip]] • [[Onslaught]] • [[Peach Bomber]] • [[Pikmin Throw]] • [[PK Fire]] • [[Plasma Whip]] • [[Power Pellet]] • [[Quick Draw]] • [[Raptor Boost]] • [[Reflect Barrier]] • [[Rock Smash]] • [[Shadow Sneak]] • [[Skull Bash]] • [[Slash Launcher]] • [[Spin Dash]] • [[Star Bit]] • [[Stealth Burst]] • [[Super Sheet]] • [[Super Speed]] • [[Tatsumaki Senpukyaku]] • [[Upperdash Arm]] • [[Wario Bike]] • [[Wario Waft]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Down
|[[Absorbing Vortex]] • [[Banana Peel (move)|Banana Peel]] • [[Blade Counter]] • [[Bomb (Metroid)|Bomb (''Metroid'')]] • [[Bomb (The Legend of Zelda)|Bomb (''The Legend of Zelda'')]] • [[Bomb Drop]] • [[Bouncing Fish]] • [[Bowser Bomb (move)|Bowser Bomb]] • [[Celestial Firework]] • [[Counter (Fire Emblem)|Counter (''Fire Emblem'')]] • [[Counter (Kid Icarus)|Counter (''Kid Icarus'')]] • [[Counter Surge]] • [[Deep Breathing]] • [[Dimensional Cape]] • [[Disable]] • [[Dr. Tornado]] • [[Echo Reflector]] • [[F.L.U.D.D.]] • [[Falcon Kick]] • [[Finishing Touch]] • [[Fire Hydrant]] • [[Flip Jump]] • [[Focus Attack]] • [[Foot Flurry]] • [[Gravitational Pull]] • [[Guardian Orbitars]] • [[Gyro]] • [[Hand Slap]] • [[Head-On Assault]] • [[Leaf Shield]] • [[Lightweight]] • [[Limit Charge]] • [[Luigi Cyclone]] • [[Mechakoopa (move)|Mechakoopa]] • [[Nosferatu]] • [[Oil Panic (move)|Oil Panic]] • [[Phantom Slash]] • [[Pikmin Order]] • [[Power Thrust]] • [[PSI Magnet]] • [[Reflector]] • [[Rest]] • [[Reversal Slash]] • [[Slip Counter]] • [[Spin Charge]] • [[Stone (move)|Stone]] • [[Substitute]] • [[Thunder (Pokémon)|Thunder]] • [[Timber (move)|Timber]] • [[Vegetable (move)|Vegetable]] • [[Vision (move)|Vision]] • [[Wild Gunman (move)|Wild Gunman]] • [[Witch Time]] • [[Wizard's Foot]] • [[Yoshi Bomb]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Final Smash
|[[Beast Ganon]] • [[Black Hole Laser]] • [[Blue Falcon]] • [[Chain Attack]] • [[Critical Hit]] • [[Dark Pit Staff]] • [[Dedede Burst]] • [[Doctor Finale]] • [[Double Team]] • [[Dream Home]] • [[End of Day]] • [[Final Edge]] • [[Full Blast]] • [[Galaxia Darkness]] • [[Giga Bowser]] • [[Giga Mac]] • [[Great Aether]] • [[Gunship]] • [[Infernal Climax]] • [[Konga Beat]] • [[Landmaster]] • [[Light Arrow]] • [[Mario Finale]] • [[Mega Evolution (Charizard)]] • [[Mega Evolution (Lucario)]] • [[Mega Legends]] • [[NES Zapper Posse]] • [[Octopus (Final Smash)|Octopus]] • [[Omega Blitz]] • [[Omnislash]] • [[Pair Up]] • [[PK Starstorm]] • [[Poltergust 5000]] • [[Power Star (Final Smash)|Power Star]] • [[Psystrike]] • [[Puff Up]] • [[Secret Ninja Attack]] • [[Shadow Mario Paint]] • [[Shin Shoryuken]] • [[Shinku Hadoken]] • [[Super Diffusion Beam]] • [[Super Dragon]] • [[Super Sonic]] • [[Three Sacred Treasures]] • [[Torrential Roar]] • [[Triforce Slash]] • [[Ultra Sword]] • [[Volt Tackle]] • [[Wii Fit]] • [[Zero Laser]]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Misc.
|[[Air Dodge]] • [[Footstool Jump]] • [[Jump]] • [[Shield]] • [[Smash Attack (move)|Smash Attack]] • [[Taunt]] • [[Tether Recovery]]
|}
 
===SSB4 Moves (by character)===
 
{|class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed navtemplate crossover-ssb"
!style="background:#1FFFB9" colspan=2|{{edit|SSB4 Moves}} ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]'' / ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Wii U]]'' moves
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!width=110px style=background:aquamarine|Bayonetta
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Bowser
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Bowser Jr.
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Captain Falcon
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Charizard
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Cloud Strife
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Corrin
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Dark Pit
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Diddy Kong
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Donkey Kong
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Dr. Mario
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Duck Hunt
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Falco Lombardi
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Fox McCloud
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Ganondorf
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Greninja
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Ike
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Jigglypuff
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|King Dedede
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Kirby
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Link
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Little Mac
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Lucario
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Lucas
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Lucina
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Luigi
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Mario
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Marth
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mega Man
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Meta Knight
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mewtwo
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mii Brawler
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mii Gunner
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mii Swordfighter
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Mr. Game & Watch
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Ness
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Pac-Man
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Palutena
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Peach
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Pikachu
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Pikmin & Olimar
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Pit
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|R.O.B.
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Robin
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Rosalina & Luma
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Roy
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Ryu
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Samus
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
|-
!style=background:aquamarine|Shiek
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Shulk
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Sonic the Hedgehog
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Toon Link
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Villager
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Wario
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Wii Fit Trainer
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Yoshi
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Zelda
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|Zero Suit Samus
|[test] • [test] • [test] • [test] • [test]
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!style=background:aquamarine|General
|[[Air Dodge]] • [[Footstool Jump]] • [[Jump]] • [[Shield]] • [[Smash Attack (move)|Smash Attack]] • [[Taunt]] • [[Tether Recovery]]
|}


==Proposals==
==Proposals==
===Remove categories and lists relating to allies===
===Remove categories and lists relating to allies===
Before going into the meat of the proposal, the issues of allies has been dicussed in the past [[Talk:List_of_allies|here]], [[forum:32955.0|here]], and [[forum:38932.0|here]]. Less bulldozer-y approaches have been suggested, but to be frank, none of them are particularly satisfactory for me.
Before going into the meat of the proposal, the issues of allies has been discussed in the past [[Talk:List_of_allies|here]], [[mb:threads/32955|here]], and [[mb:threads/38932|here]]. Less bulldozer-y approaches have been suggested, but to be frank, none of them are particularly satisfactory for me.


Simply put, I don't see the justification in having the [[List of allies]] and the various categories ([[:Category:Donkey Kong Allies|Donkey Kong]], [[:Category:Super Paper Mario Allies|Super Paper Mario]], [[:Category:Wario Allies|Wario]], [[:Category:Yoshi Allies|Yoshi]], and of course the main [[:Category:Allies|Allies]]). First, take into consideration the basic categories of the wiki: characters, enemies, items, levels, abilities, and so on. All of them are distinct from each other, and in turn, there should be no overlap between them. Measures have been taken to ensure this, with [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_47#Do_Something_With_Game-Specific_Species_Categories|one proposal]] ensuring that species occupy a separate space and [[Category_talk:Objects#Mutually_exclude_items_and_objects|a currently running proposal]] that is set to split items and objects. Now, take a look at the list of main categories outlined on [[MarioWiki:Categories#Placement_on_articles|MarioWiki:Categories]], and you'll notice that "allies" are also listed up there. This ends up colliding into the same issue faced by the items and objects: how can a category be considered the broadest category possible when, by definition as a subcategory, there exists something above it? All allies are necessarily either characters or species, so as is, there's an uncomfortable contradiction here. You might say that this is grounds to remove the allies from that list, but not to outright delete it, and I might have agreed if I didn't have other issues with the allies.
Simply put, I don't see the justification in having the [[List of allies]] and the various categories ([[:Category:Donkey Kong Allies|Donkey Kong]], [[:Category:Super Paper Mario Allies|Super Paper Mario]], [[:Category:Wario Allies|Wario]], [[:Category:Yoshi Allies|Yoshi]], and of course the main [[:Category:Allies|Allies]]). First, take into consideration the basic categories of the wiki: characters, enemies, items, levels, abilities, and so on. All of them are distinct from each other, and in turn, there should be no overlap between them. Measures have been taken to ensure this, with [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/47#Do_Something_With_Game-Specific_Species_Categories|one proposal]] ensuring that species occupy a separate space and [[Category_talk:Objects#Mutually_exclude_items_and_objects|another proposal]] that split items and objects. Now, take a look at the list of main categories outlined on [[MarioWiki:Categories#Placement_on_articles|MarioWiki:Categories]], and you'll notice that "allies" are also listed up there. This ends up colliding into the same issue faced by the items and objects: how can a category be considered the broadest category possible when, by definition as a subcategory, there exists something above it? All allies are necessarily either characters or species, so as is, there's an uncomfortable contradiction here. You might say that this is grounds to remove the allies from that list, but not to outright delete it, and I might have agreed if I didn't have other issues with the allies.


This is something that partially builds on the recent deletion of [[Category_talk:Heroes#Do_something_about_this_category|Category:Heroes]]: we don't have a definition for an ally in the slightest. [[List of allies]] says that it includes everyone that has "at one point or another stood against the various enemies", but that's laughably vague and entirely unapplicable to situations in which there aren't any enemies invovled. You might have a vague idea of which characters are and are not allies, but that idea almost certainly goes counter to everyone else's idea. Even then, our current implementation of the term "ally" is shaky at best and nonsensical at worst. To use the [[:Category:Yoshi Allies|Yoshi Allies]] category as an example, ''all of the playable characters'' are listed as allies. The actual people going on the adventure and doing all of the action are merely allies. If they're considered as allies because they help each other, is Mario an ally in every game he's in just because people help him? I could go on in this fashion: why is [[King Fret]] an ally when he's nothing more than a hostage, why is [[KP Pete]] an ally when he, at best, acts friendly with Mario and nothing more, why is [[Fire Mini Mario]] an ally when it's a ''form'' of the main playable character, why is [[Mad Scienstein]] an ally when most of his encounters feature him as a villain and he is only helpful to the player on a few occasions by happenstance (and not by his own volition, no less)? That last point also touches on another issue, with many of these completely varied characters and species being grouped together because of, at best, ''one'' of their actions, and these actions can vary wildly. Characters who act as nothing but roadblocks to the heroes for the vast majority of their appearances, such as [[Bowser Jr.]], get to be tagged as allies because of a single instance of helpfulness, and that just doesn't make sense to me (also, I can't even tell when Bowser Jr. is supposed to be an ally). There are echoes of [[Category_talk:Hostages#Delete_this_category|Category:Hostages]] in this: offbeat, tenuous connections are of little functional use to the wiki.
This is something that partially builds on the deletion of [[Category_talk:Heroes#Do_something_about_this_category|Category:Heroes]]: we don't have a definition for an ally in the slightest. [[List of allies]] says that it includes everyone that has "at one point or another stood against the various enemies", but that's unhelpfully vague and entirely inapplicable to situations in which there aren't any enemies involved. You might have a sketchy idea of which characters are and are not allies, but that idea almost certainly goes counter to everyone else's idea. Even then, our current implementation of the term "ally" is shaky at best and nonsensical at worst. To use the [[:Category:Yoshi Allies|Yoshi Allies]] category as an example, ''all of the playable characters'' are listed as allies. The actual people going on the adventure and doing all of the action are merely allies. If they're considered as allies because they help each other, is Mario an ally in every game he's in just because people help him? I could go on in this fashion: why is [[King Fret]] an ally when he's nothing more than a hostage, why is [[KP Pete]] an ally when he, at best, acts friendly with Mario and nothing more, why is [[Fire Mini Mario]] an ally when it's a ''form'' of the main playable character, why is [[Mad Scienstein]] an ally when most of his encounters feature him as a villain and he is only helpful to the player on a few occasions by happenstance (and not by his own volition, no less)? That last point also touches on another issue, with many of these completely varied characters and species being grouped together because of, at best, ''one'' of their actions, and these actions can vary wildly. Characters who act as nothing but roadblocks to the heroes for the vast majority of their appearances, such as [[Bowser Jr.]], get to be tagged as allies because of a single instance of helpfulness, and that just doesn't make sense to me (as an aside, I can't even tell where Bowser Jr. acts as an ally). There are echoes of [[Category_talk:Hostages#Delete_this_category|Category:Hostages]] in this: offbeat, tenuous connections are of little functional use to the wiki.


The idea of allies for the wiki is such a messy, ambiguous, easily muddled grouping that I don't think that any possible solution beyond nuking the entire concept of allies would be satisfactory. Even if ''somehow'', the community came together and unanimously decided on a rigorous definition for allies, what then? What value is there in grouping together characters and species with an arbitrary definition? What do I get from this that I don't get from other categories? What reason do I have to care about the fact that this one NPC gave Mario a couple of coins one time, especially to the point where it elevates them to a unique category? I'll be just as redundant as the category and say that there's no point in having them on the wiki.
The idea of allies for the wiki is such a messy, ambiguous, easily muddled grouping that I don't think that any possible solution beyond nuking the entire concept of allies would be satisfactory. Even if somehow, the community came together and unanimously decided on a rigorous definition for allies, what then? What value is there in grouping together characters and species with an arbitrary definition? What do I get from this that I don't get from other categories? What reason do I have to care about the fact that this one NPC gave Mario some coins one time, especially to the point where it elevates them to a unique category? I'll be just as redundant as the allies and say that there's no point in having them on the wiki.


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===How to order navigation templates===
According to [[MarioWiki:Navigation_templates#Order_on_pages|MarioWiki:Navigation templates]], navigation templates are to be ordered as such: "species templates should come first, followed by game-specific and series-wide templates, '''which are arranged in pure chronological order'''." I'm fine with species coming before game and series, but I have a problem with the bolded section (emphasis my own). The purely chronological order helps ''nobody'': readers definitely don't know when every game came out, and editors are especially inconvenienced by having to look up every single game until they find exactly where each template fits. This may not be that much of an issue on smaller pages or with new games, but good luck trying to slot in a new template for an older game on [[Mario]]'s page. The fact of the matter is, the date that a game came out is not obvious to anyone. Why not change it, then?
'''Option 1: Purely alphabetically'''
This matches how our categories are currently ordered (including how species go at the top). The templates would be ordered by the first letters in their name and nothing more.
'''Option 2: By series, then chronologically'''
This matches how the history sections of our pages themselves are currently ordered. The templates would be grouped together by their subjects' series, then subsequently ordered by their date of release.
'''Option 3: By series, then alphabetically'''
An amalgamation of options 1 and 2. The templates are grouped by series, then ordered alphabetically.
'''Option 4: Purely chronologically (i.e. do nothing)'''
Everything stays the same, and no changes are made.
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==Historical inaccuracies and other errors==
Despite ''Mario's Time Machine'' being intended as an educational game, it contains many errors in regards to its historical facts.
;[[Alexandria]] (47 BC)
*This section centers on returning [[Cleopatra]]'s staff to her so that she can reign over Egypt; however, she first reigned in 51 BC (despite one of Cleopatra's guards saying that she was "crowned" in 52 BC) at the bequest of her father and alongside her brother, Ptolemy XIII. She then took sole control after a civil war between her and her brother in 47 BC.<ref>Anderson, Jaynie. ''Tiepolo's Cleopatra'', Macmillan, 2003, pp. 38–39.</ref>
*Cleopatra also says that her staff was passed down from her ancestors, although no such item exists in real life.
*Julius Caesar claims that he is allergic to [[cat]]s; though his family line in general was afflicted with asthma<ref>Cantani, Arnaldo. "Asthma." ''Pediatric Allergy, Asthma and Immunology'', Springer-Verlag Berlin Heidelberg, 2008, p. 724.</ref>, Caesar is not known to have been allergic to or even afraid of cats.
*Caesar also boasts about having conquered {{wp|Pompeii}}, despite the town having been acquired by Roman general {{wp|Sulla}} during the {{wp|Social War (91–88 BC)|Social War}} in 89 BC<ref>Santangelo, Federico. "Warfare and Politics: Sulla in Italy." ''Sulla, the Elites and the Empire: A Study of Roman Policies in Italy and the Greek East'', vol. 8, Brill, 2007, pp. 68–69. Impact of Empire.</ref>, before Caesar held any power.
*One of Cleopatra's guards asks Mario to give one of Cleopatra's handmaidens a [[Wooden Snake]] to demonstrate his love for her, and after receiving the gift, she makes a comment about being bitten by the "love scarab". Neither animal is associated with romance or love: snakes are the aggressive guardians of royalty<ref>Arnold, Dorothea. "49. Cobra on Pharaoh's Forehead." ''An Egyptian Bestiary'', Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1995, p. 43.</ref> that can also symbolize chaos<ref>Pinch, Geraldine. "Magic Figurines and Statues." ''Magic in Ancient Egypt'', University of Texas Press, 1995, p. 103.</ref>, and scarabs symbolize the arrival of the Sun and the reincarnation of humans<ref>Pinch, Geraldine. "Amulets." ''Magic in Ancient Egypt'', University of Texas Press, 1995, p. 109.</ref>.
*Throughout several lines of dialogue, it is stated that "Ptolemy XI" is Cleopatra's father and "Ptolemy XII" is the brother that wars against Cleopatra. However, the numbers in their names are off by one: {{wp|Ptolemy XII Auletes|Ptolemy XII}} was the father and {{wp|Ptolemy XIII Theos Philopator|Ptolemy XIII}} was the brother.
*Several characters also use dates with {{wp|Anno Domini|before Christ}}, for example when the handmaiden says that Caesar arrived in Egypt "in 48 B.C.". Though these dates are not incorrect, they would have not been used by people who lived close to fifty years before the birth of {{wp|Jesus}}.
*The history pages mention that Cleopatra had three sons with {{wp|Mark Anthony}}, despite one of them, {{wp|Cleopatra Selene II}}, being female.
;[[Athens]] (369 BC)
*[[Aristotle]] is depicted as an old man in-game, but as Aristotle was born in 384 BC<ref>Boeckh, August (1858-1884). "August Boeckh's gesammelte kleine Schriften," page 195. B. G. Teubner, Leipzig.</ref>, he would have only been fifteen years old. With that in mind, the rest of the interactions with him become anachronistic, as he only became Plato's student when he was seventeen or eighteen<ref>Blits, Katherine C. (1999). "Aristotle: Form, function, and comparative anatomy". ''The Anatomical Record''.</ref>, and thus, he has not yet formulated any of the theories that are discussed in-game.
*A councilman mentions that [[Plato]]'s [[Academy]] was founded "in 387 B.C." - while technically correct, a dating system based on {{wp|Jesus}} would not have been used by someone who lived over three hundred before he was born.
*The same councilman also claims that the Academy will last for over nine hundred years. In reality, the Academy was destroyed in 86 BC<ref>Reale, Giovanni, and John R. Catan (1990). ''A History of Ancient Philosophy: The schools of the Imperial Age'', pages 207-208. SUNY Press.</ref>.
*He also does not know whether the god of wine's name is {{wp|Dionysus}} or Bacchus, despite "Bacchus" being the name adopted by the Romans.
*The history page describes the Academy as the first "university", which is incorrect as it did not offer any degrees to its students.
;[[Calcutta]] (1947)
[this actually looks alright]
;[[Cambridge]] (1687)
*The discovery of {{wp|calculus}} is attributed uniquely to Newton, despite {{wp|Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz}} also discovering calculus around the same time as Newton, albeit independently; this led to a debate as to who should receive recognition for the discovery<ref>Hall, Alfred Rupert. ''Philosophers at War: The Quarrel between Newton and Gottfried Leibniz''. Cambridge University Press, 1980.</ref>.
*Several characters state that Newton's [[Principia]] has not yet been published, for example when [[Edmund Halley]] says that he is still working on the rough draft, but the book was published on July 5<ref>Newton, Isaac. ''Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica''. Jussu Societatis Regiae Ac Typis Josephi Streater, 1687. University of Cambridge Digital Library, cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PR-ADV-B-00039-00001/9.</ref>, even though the game takes place on December 25.
*Halley also says that he tracked a {{wp|Halley's Comet|comet}} orbited around the Earth in 1862. This is a typo; the comet passed by in 1682<ref>Elizabeth Howell. "Halley's Comet: Facts About the Most Famous Comet." ''Space.com'', 19 Sept. 2017, 09:17pm ET, www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>.
*A lecturer says that, while Newton while was in his twenties, he said that his mind was "remarkably fit for invention." This quote seems to have been sourced from Leon M. Lederman and Dick Teresi's ''{{wp|The God Particle (book)|The God Particle}}''<ref>Lederman, Leon M., and Dick Teresi. ''The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?''. Houghton Mifflin Company, 1993, p. 100.</ref>, but the actual quote is "All this was in the two plague years of 1665 and 1666, for in those days I was in the prime of my age for invention and minded Mathematics and Philosophy more than at any time since."<ref>Hall, Alfred Rupert. ''Philosophers at War: The Quarrel between Newton and Gottfried Leibniz''. Cambridge University Press, 1980, pp. 10-11.</ref>
*If Mario offers Halley an apple, he replies that he has already eaten one today "so as to keep the doctor away." The proverb of "{{wp|an apple a day keeps the doctor away}}," however, first appeared in the 1860s<ref>Ely, Margaret. "History behind 'An Apple a Day'." The Washington Post, WP Company, 24 Sept. 2013, www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/history-behind-an-apple-a-day/2013/09/24/aac3e79c-1f0e-11e3-94a2-6c66b668ea55_story.html. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>. 
;[[Florence]] (1503)
*[[Raphael Sanzio]] mentions that he is working on a portrait of the Pope, despite his portraits of {{wp|Portrait of Pope Julius II|Pope Julius II}} and {{wp|Portrait of Leo X (Raphael)|Leo X}} being painted in 1511–12 and 1518-19, respectively.
*Raphael also says that [[Michelangelo Buonarroti]]'s ''{{wp|David (Michelangelo)|David}}'' is thirteen-and-a-half feet tall, but it is actually seventeen feet tall.
*An unnamed painter says that Michelangelo left the tutelage of {{wp|Domenico Ghirlandaio}} simply because he was bored, but Ghirlandaio sent him to {{wp|Lorenzo de' Medici}} as one of his best pupils<ref>Clément, Charles. ''Michelangelo'', Sampson Low, Marston, Searle & Rivington, 1880, pp. 8–9.</ref>.
**The history pages erroneously state that Michelangelo himself "broke his contract" with Ghirlandaio solely because he wanted to study the statues in Medici's garden.
*The same painter also gives Mario some "Renaissance Purple" [[Paint]] in what is visibly a modern paint can. The term "Renaissance" also first appeared in 1858<ref name="Renaissance">Johnson, Paul. ''The Renaissance: A Short History''. Modern Library, 2000.</ref>
*He also says that Michelangelo is interested in sculpting the Pope's tomb; although he approached the task enthusiastically, he was specifically commissioned by the Pope to construct the tomb<ref>Vasari, Giorgio. "Michelangelo Buonarroti." ''Lives of the Most Eminent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects: Translated from the Italian of Giorgio Vasari'', translated by Jonathan Foster, Henry G. Bohn, 1850, p. 246.</ref>.
;[[Florence]] (1505)
*An old fresco painter describes [[Leonardo da Vinci]] as a "Renaissance Man". Beyond how the term "Renaissance" was not used during the period<ref name="Renaissance"/>, the whole expression first appeared in 1906<ref>"Renaissance Man." ''Merriam-Webster'', www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Renaissance%20man. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>
*The history pages say that Europe was in a 1000-year "slumber" before the Renaissance, which brought a new age of science and art. However, this completely ignores how the Middle Ages contained Renaissances of its own, including the {{wp|Carolingian Renaissance}} and the {{wp|Renaissance of the 12th century}}.
;[[Germany]] (1292)
*[[Albert Einstein]] says that he moved to the United States in the 1930s, but Mario meets him in the year 1905.
;[[Gobi Desert]] (1905)
*[[Kublai Khan]] suggests that his father was {{wp|Ögedei Khan}}, despite his actual father being {{wp|Tolui}}.
*Several characters reference [[Marco Polo]]'s [[Book of Marco Polo]], including a merchant who gives Mario a few pages from it. However, Marco only wrote it after returning to [[Venice]], while he was imprisoned with writer {{wp|Rustichello da Pisa}}<ref>Jackson, Peter. "Marco Polo and His 'Travels'." ''Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies'', vol. 61, no. 1, 1998, pp. 84–85.</ref>.
*Also, they are insistent on its title being "Book of Marco Polo", but this is not the actual title of the book. It is ''Les voyages de Marco Polo''<ref name="WDL Voyages">"The Travels of Marco Polo." ''WDL RSS'', National Library of Sweden, www.wdl.org/en/item/14300/. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref> (''The voyages of Marco Polo'') or ''Le Devisement du Monde''<ref>Florescu, Mihaela L. "Marco Polo's Le Devisement Du Monde – Narrative Voice, Language and Diversity by Simon Gaunt (Review)." ''Comitatus'', Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, UCLA, 20 Aug. 2014, muse.jhu.edu/article/552501.</ref> (''The Description of the World'') in French, ''Il Milione'' (''The Million'') in Italian<ref>Polo, Marco. ''Il Milione''. Edited by Valeria Bertolucci Pizzorusso Adelphia, Letteratura Italiana Einaudi, 1975, www.letteraturaitaliana.net/pdf/Volume_1/t24.pdf. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>, and ''The Travels of Marco Polo''<ref name="WDL Voyages"/> in English. The closest name is an 1871 English translation by {{wp|Henry Yule}} titled, ''The Book of Ser Marco Polo, the Venetian, Concerning the Kingdoms and Marvels of the East''<ref>Yule, Henry. ''The Book of Ser Marco Polo, the Venetian, Concerning the Kingdoms and Marvels of the East''. Vol. 1, John Murray, 1871.</ref>.
*A sage claims that China had glasses when Europe did not, but this is incorrect: they were first documented in Italy in 1306<ref>Ilardi, Vincent. "The Invention of Spectacles Revisited." ''Renaissance Vision from Spectacles to Telescopes'', vol. 259, American Philosophical Society, 2007, pp. 4–5.</ref>, while none of Marco Polo's writings reference them<ref>Needham, Joseph. "Eye-Glasses and Spectacles." ''Science and Civilisation in China'', vol. 4, Cambridge University Press, 1962, pp. 118–119. Physics and Physical Technology.</ref>.
;[[London]] (1595)
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;[[London]] (1831)
*The [[Magnet]] item is supposedly an {{wp|electromagnet}}, and yet it resembles a {{wp|horseshoe magnet}}, which is a kind of {{wp|Magnet|permanent magnet}}.
*A young boy says that [[Michael Faraday]]'s first lecture within the {{wp|Royal Institution Christmas Lectures}} was ''{{wp|The Chemical History of a Candle}}''. However, not only did he give several lectures before this one, he gave it in 1848<ref name="Christmas Lectures">"History of the CHRISTMAS LECTURES." ''Royal Institution'', 2014, www.rigb.org/christmas-lectures/history. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>.
*He also talks about how [[Charles Dickens]] wrote about Faraday's lectures, which he only did after Faraday had presented ''The Chemical History of a Candle''<ref>Melville, Wayne. "Michael Faraday's Popular Science Lectures, Percival Leigh, and Charles Dickens: Science for the Masses in 'Household Words' (1850-51)." ''The Victorian Web'', 17 June 2010, www.victorianweb.org/authors/dickens/faraday2.html. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>.
*He also says that he is in line to become the King of England, but wants to become a scientist instead. This character is most likely intended to be either {{wp|Albert, Prince Consort}} (who only became king after marrying {{wp|Queen Victoria}} in 1840<ref>Darby, Elisabeth and Nicola Smith. "In Mourning for Prince Albert." ''History Today'', vol. 33, no. 10, Oct. 1983, p. 22. EBSCOhost.</ref>) {{wp|Edward VII}} (who was born in 1841<ref>"History - Edward VII." BBC, BBC, 2014, www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/edward_vii_king.shtml. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>); naturally, neither candidate fits the time period<ref>"Was There a King of England, or an Heir to the Throne, in 1831 Who Idolized Michael Faraday?" ''History.stackexchange.com'', 31 Aug. 2017, history.stackexchange.com/q/39949/23764. Retrieved December 19, 2017.</ref>.
*[[Charles-Gaspard de la Rive]] discusses a lecture in which Faraday demonstrates an electromagnet by throwing a shovel, a pair of tongs, and a poker at it. Although Faraday presented lectures featuring magnetism, they took place long after 1831<ref>James, Frank A. J. L. ''Christmas at the Royal Institution: An Anthology of Lectures by M Faraday, J Tyndall, R S Ball, S P Thompson, E R Lankester, W H Bragg, W L Bragg, R L Gregory, and I Stewart''. World Scientific, 2007. EBSCOhost.</ref>.
**Also, sources describe Faraday throwing a {{wp|coal scuttle}}, but not a shovel (though the tongs and poker are accurate)<ref>Russell, Colin Archibald. "Chemistry and Communication." ''Michael Faraday: Physics and Faith'', Oxford University Press, 2001, p. 79.</ref><ref>Lienhard, John H. "No. 1760: THE CHRISTMAS LECTURES." ''Engines of Our Ingenuity'', University of Houston, 2002, www.uh.edu/engines/epi1760.htm.</ref><ref>Simpson, Thomas K. "Faraday's Mathematics: On Getting Along Without Euclid." ''Thomasksimpson.com'', 30 Mar. 2001, www.thomasksimpson.com/faraday.html.</ref>
*[[Sarah Barnard]] characterizes Faraday's former mentor, {{wp|Humphry Davy}}, as someone who was utterly jealous of Faraday's success and generally rude towards him, but that view  is careless, ignoring much of the relationship between Davy and Farady<ref>Fraser, James. "Gallery of Literary Characters. No. LXIX. Michael Faraday, F.R.S., HON. D.C.L. OXON, Etc. Etc." ''Fraser's Magazine for Town and Country'', Feb. 1836, p. 224.</ref><ref>Knight, David M. "Davy and Faraday: Fathers and Sons." ''Faraday Rediscovered'', 1985, pp. 33–49., doi:10.1007/978-1-349-11139-8_3.</ref>.
*She also remarks that Faraday noted that the date with the most happiness to him was the day that the two of them married. While this is true, he only noted so in 1847<ref>Gladstone, John Hall. "Study of His Character." ''Michael Faraday'', 2010, pp. 70–71.</ref>.
*Several characters are waiting for Faraday's upcoming lecture, but he did not give a Christmas Lecture in 1831<ref name="Christmas Lectures"/>.
*The history pages state that Faraday is the only scientist to have both an {{wp|International System of Units|SI unit}} and a {{wp|physical constant}} named after them. This is incorrect: [[Isaac Newton]] and {{wp|Charles-Augustin de Coulomb}} both share the honor<ref>Wikipedia contributors. "List of scientists whose names are used as SI units." ''Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia'', 22 Aug. 2017. Web. 20 Dec. 2017.</ref><ref>Wikipedia contributors. "List of scientists whose names are used in physical constants." ''Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia'', 23 Jun. 2017. Web. 20 Dec. 2017.</ref>.
;[[London]] (1843)
*[[Catherine Dickens]] mentions her ten children, but six of them ({{wp|Francis Dickens|Francis}}, {{wp|Alfred D'Orsay Tennyson Dickens|Alfred}}, {{wp|Sydney Smith Haldimand Dickens|Sydney}}, {{wp|Henry Fielding Dickens|Henry}}, {{wp|Dora Annie Dickens|Dora}}, and {{wp|Edward Dickens|Edward}}) were born after 1843.
*She also references ''{{wp|David Copperfield}}'', which was first serialized from 1849 to 1850 and first published in 1850<ref>Dickens, Charles. "The Personal History of David Copperfield." ''Abebooks.com'', Bradbury & Evans, www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=22648973147.</ref>
;[[Luoyang]] (105 AD)
;[[Philadelphia]] (1752)
*Mario obtains a [[Penny (item)|Penny]] from a constable, despite the first American pennies only being minted in 1793.<ref>[https://www.allcoinvalues.com/united-states-of-america/united-states-of-america-penny-281-cent29-values.html One Cent values - United States]. ''AllCoinValues.com''. Retrieved December 6, 2017.</ref>
;[[Stratford-upon-Avon]] (1601)
*Numerous characters quote lines from [[William Shakespeare]]'s plays. For example, [[Anne Hathaway]] says "Is this a dagger I see before me, the handle toward my hand?" from ''{{wp|Macbeth}}'' (believed to have been written in 1606<ref>(2014). [http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/higher/english/macbeth/background/revision/1/ Macbeth: Background]. ''BBC.com''. Retrieved December 6, 2017.</ref>), and an unnamed man quotes "O brave new world, that has such people in't" from {{wp|The Tempest}} (believed to have been written in 1611<ref>Bevington, David (April 26, 2017). [https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Tempest The Tempest]. ''Encyclopædia Britannica''. Retrieved December 6, 2017.</ref>)
**The wording of many quotes also slightly differ from their sources, though this was most likely done to better integrate them into the dialogue.
*[[Richard Burbage]] claims that Shakespeare has written "some 24" plays; although certain sources line up with this statement<ref>Chambers, Edmund Kerchever. ''William Shakespeare: A Study of Facts and Problems'', 1st ed., vol. 1, Oxford University, 1930, pp. 270–271.</ref>, it is generally difficult to precisely determine when each play was written<ref>Wikipedia contributors. "Romeo and Juliet", "Date and time" section. ''Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia'', 16 Dec. 2017. Web. 16 Dec. 2017.</ref>.
*An unnamed man in Stratford-upon-Avon brings up the theories that Shakespeare's plays were actually written by {{wp|Francis Bacon}} or by {{wp|Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford}}. This is despite those theories first appearing in 1857<ref>Bacon, Delia (1857). ''The Philosophy of the Plays of Shakspeare Unfolded''. Groombridge and Sons, London.</ref> and 1920<ref>Looney, J. Thomas (1920). ''"Shakespeare" identified in Edward De Vere, the seventeenth earl of Oxford''. C. Palmer, London.</ref>, respectively.
===References===
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===Pop culture references===
*One of Cleopatra's guards assumes that Mario is not from Egypt, as he does not "{{wp|Walk Like an Egyptian|walk like an Egyptian}}".
*After receiving a [[Laurel Wreath]], a poet in Athens exclaims that he does not need an "{{wp|Academy Awards|Academy award}}".
*If Mario offers a lecturer at Cambridge an apple, he replies that he prefers his {{wp|Macintosh}}, and I can't believe that joke is actually in this game.
==DKC:TF==
'''Hazards'''
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DKCTF Carnivorous Plantlife Prima.jpg|Carnivorous Plantlife
DKCTF Collapsible Wooden Platform Prima.jpg|Collapsible Wooden Platform
DKCTF Decaying Vine Prima.jpg|Decaying Vine
DKCTF Electrified Anemone Prima.jpg|Electrified Anemone
DKCTF Fire Floor Prima.jpg|Fire Floor
DKCTF Flaming Falling Totem Pole Prima.jpg|Flaming Falling Totem Pole
DKCTF Flaming Vine Prima.jpg|Flaming Vine
DKCTF Giant Spiked Nut Prima.jpg|Giant Spiked Nut
DKCTF Giant Underwater Fan Prima.jpg|Giant Underwater Fan
DKCTF Hanging TNT Prima.jpg|Hanging TNT
DKCTF Lightning Bolt Prima.jpg|Lightning Bolt
DKCTF Proximity Mine Prima.jpg|Proximity Mine
DKCTF Spiked Floor Prima.jpg|Spiked Floor
DKCTF Tornado Prima.jpg|Tornado
</gallery>
*Carnivorous Plantlife: "The local plantlife in Donkey Kong Country is aggressive, to put it plainly. These angry fellows are much like the tooth-toting carnivorous plants that sport platforms at their base. The main difference here is that these hungry plants do not help you access routes or gain entry to secret areas. They pretty much just want to devour your entire body whole."
*Collapsible Wooden Platforms: "These wood-plank platforms start to shiver and shake the second you step your hairy foot upon them. Be sure to take care of your business and make haste before the planks give way and you fall to your doom."
*Decaying Vines: "These vines at first sight can blend in with the regular structurally sound vines. At a closer look, they can be identified by the brown discoloring at the top of the vine. When you grab onto these vines, you will only have a limited time before they break under your intense weight. This is a grab-and-go situation, so grab hold of the vine and jump to the next before the old vine makes fools of the lot of you."
*Electrified Anemones: "While they look beautiful in the dark of the ocean, these will shock DK to the core. They hold items beneath them, and at first glance, you may not know how to defeat these anemones. Close by are smaller fish that will glow if you Corkscrew through their school, which will cause the anemone arms to retract finally allow you to access the items below."
*Fire Floor: "These fire floors can be identified by the hot coals burning just below the surface. The real danger is standing in one spot for too long, as that agitates the earth, allowing flames to come to the surface that will most certainly burn you. Usually there are Water Sacks around; throw them at the ground to extinguish the flames and create a much more safer walkway. "
*Flaming Falling Totem Poles: "These totem poles are intent on crushing the bananas out of you. They have a flaming core with fire that flickers out from the eye and mouth holes. Besides adding to the incredible tension, these are another hazard to keep you on your toes. Quickly jump back or roll forward to avoid a crushing defeat."
*Flaming Vines: "These vines look like the decaying vines, but they will immediately ignite and burn up rather quickly. Other vines will already be on fire when you approach. Extinguish them before climbing. These vines can also be connected to platforms, making it much simpler to quickly jump to safety. Remember to act swiftly and be light on your feet!"
*Giant Spiked Nuts: "A form of this type of hazard is introduced in the third island and will become a headache-inducing nuisance. These large spiked nuts drop from trees and roll towards you, with the intention of filling you full of holes. They cannot be destroyed by any means, so leap over the obstacles and continue on your way as best you can."
*Giant Underwater Fans: "The giant fans certainly make traversing through underwater levels difficult. In some instances, the current they produce is too powerful to Kong to swim through on his own. Grab Dixie Kong if you can and use her Ponytail Propeller move to easily pass through the strong currents."
*Hanging TNT: "This is quite simple really. Touch the dangling cluster of concentrated destruction to go BOOM! Avoid the dangling destruction and live to tell the tale."
*Lightning Bolts: "When you encounter lightning bolts, they may give you a hard time at first, but they can be avoided quite easily if you follow the pattern. Before the real shock comes from the main bolt, several lesser bolts will strike in quick succession; they are harmless. Use that time to run or roll past the strike zone before the actual bolt rains down on your parade."
*Proximity Mines: "The mines underwater pack a punch and will begin to time their detonation the closer you get. Some secret areas must be opened by the mines, so you may need to carefully draw near one to time the charge, then quickly swim away before it explodes. Remember that these mines eject pieces of shrapnel that will take a heart away if they come in contact with you, so be careful!"
*Spiked Floor: "Spiked floors can be a real pain in the buttocks—literally. The best way to traverse this hazard is to bring old man Cranky Kong along with you and pogo across the spikes with his cane. This will also help you access the items lying on the spikes and to get to hidden areas to collect Puzzle Pieces."
*Tornados: "These wind tunnels can either help or hinder your path to the end of the level. At times these tornados can launch you upward to access certain items, but get too close to an edge and the wonder of nature might just launch you like a rag doll. Tip: The trick to using the tornado to spring you forward is to jump into it at the very top of the funnel. Jumping into the lowest portion or the middle causes it to shoot you backward and possibly straight into harm’s way."
==SSB4 Images==
*[[Color TV-Game 15]]
*[[Nightmare]]
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*[[Barrel]]
*[[Crate]]
*[[Daybreak]]
*[[Dragoon]]
*[[Food]]
*[[Party Ball]]
*[[Rocket Belt]]
*[[Rolling Crate]]
*[[Springboard|Spring]]
*[[Team Healer]]
*[[Treasure chest]]
*[[Trophy]]
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*[[Clubberskull]]
*[[Cucco]]
*[[Fly Guy]]
*[[Glire]]
*[[Iridescent Glint Beetle]]
*[[Koopa Troopa]]
*[[Poppant]]
*[[Spiny]]
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Remove categories and lists relating to allies

Before going into the meat of the proposal, the issues of allies has been discussed in the past here, here, and here. Less bulldozer-y approaches have been suggested, but to be frank, none of them are particularly satisfactory for me.

Simply put, I don't see the justification in having the List of allies and the various categories (Donkey Kong, Super Paper Mario, Wario, Yoshi, and of course the main Allies). First, take into consideration the basic categories of the wiki: characters, enemies, items, levels, abilities, and so on. All of them are distinct from each other, and in turn, there should be no overlap between them. Measures have been taken to ensure this, with one proposal ensuring that species occupy a separate space and another proposal that split items and objects. Now, take a look at the list of main categories outlined on MarioWiki:Categories, and you'll notice that "allies" are also listed up there. This ends up colliding into the same issue faced by the items and objects: how can a category be considered the broadest category possible when, by definition as a subcategory, there exists something above it? All allies are necessarily either characters or species, so as is, there's an uncomfortable contradiction here. You might say that this is grounds to remove the allies from that list, but not to outright delete it, and I might have agreed if I didn't have other issues with the allies.

This is something that partially builds on the deletion of Category:Heroes: we don't have a definition for an ally in the slightest. List of allies says that it includes everyone that has "at one point or another stood against the various enemies", but that's unhelpfully vague and entirely inapplicable to situations in which there aren't any enemies involved. You might have a sketchy idea of which characters are and are not allies, but that idea almost certainly goes counter to everyone else's idea. Even then, our current implementation of the term "ally" is shaky at best and nonsensical at worst. To use the Yoshi Allies category as an example, all of the playable characters are listed as allies. The actual people going on the adventure and doing all of the action are merely allies. If they're considered as allies because they help each other, is Mario an ally in every game he's in just because people help him? I could go on in this fashion: why is King Fret an ally when he's nothing more than a hostage, why is KP Pete an ally when he, at best, acts friendly with Mario and nothing more, why is Fire Mini Mario an ally when it's a form of the main playable character, why is Mad Scienstein an ally when most of his encounters feature him as a villain and he is only helpful to the player on a few occasions by happenstance (and not by his own volition, no less)? That last point also touches on another issue, with many of these completely varied characters and species being grouped together because of, at best, one of their actions, and these actions can vary wildly. Characters who act as nothing but roadblocks to the heroes for the vast majority of their appearances, such as Bowser Jr., get to be tagged as allies because of a single instance of helpfulness, and that just doesn't make sense to me (as an aside, I can't even tell where Bowser Jr. acts as an ally). There are echoes of Category:Hostages in this: offbeat, tenuous connections are of little functional use to the wiki.

The idea of allies for the wiki is such a messy, ambiguous, easily muddled grouping that I don't think that any possible solution beyond nuking the entire concept of allies would be satisfactory. Even if somehow, the community came together and unanimously decided on a rigorous definition for allies, what then? What value is there in grouping together characters and species with an arbitrary definition? What do I get from this that I don't get from other categories? What reason do I have to care about the fact that this one NPC gave Mario some coins one time, especially to the point where it elevates them to a unique category? I'll be just as redundant as the allies and say that there's no point in having them on the wiki.

Proposer: Time Turner (talk)
Deadline: [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "August 8, 2011, 23:59 GMT"]

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