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Where have you found the french name? I putted a citation needed, since the source is unknown. The one who putted it isn't active since a few years (i checked the history), and there's no source for it. Maybe it's on a specific french guide? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:24, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
Where have you found the french name? I putted a citation needed, since the source is unknown. The one who putted it isn't active since a few years (i checked the history), and there's no source for it. Maybe it's on a specific french guide? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:24, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
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It's just a normal jellyfish with a wacky, but thoroughly obsolete, nickname. Most licensed guidebooks, each for three different releases with decades spacing them out, straight up call them ''[[wiktionary:くらげ|kurage]]'' (Japanese for "jellyfish", the literal animal). It's the Player's Guide for SMW2 that's the odd one out, and let's not forget that it's the same book that calls Cheep Cheeps "Flopsy Fish"/"Piscatory Pete", Ukikis "Grinders", and separates one particular [[Nep-Enut]] from its species just because it's found underground. Before someone inevitably mentions it, I'm not even making a case for how the Japanese books are somehow more authoritative than the English one just because the ''Yoshi's Island'' games themselves were developed in Japan--given the existence of no direct source, such as a manual or the games, to attest the name of this enemy, it's simply a case of 3 different, largely more current sources against 1 source from 1995, all equally official.{{footnote|main|*}}
And I mean, yeah, real jellyfish don't have eyes, but fictional attributes don't necessarily prevent a subject from being treated as equivalent to its real life inspiration on this wiki. This fellow [[File:Jellyfish.png]] from ''Mario & Wario'' also has eyes and is currently covered on the [[Jellyfish]] article; and I'm no marine biologist, but I don't think actual jellyfish [[Jellyfish#Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze|discharge electricity]] like what that article appears to suggest.
Given a merge, the section that would cover the Yoshi's Island jellyfish would, of course, still acknowledge the Player's Guide name, but treat it as no more than a curiosity (in the same way the [[Cheep Cheep#Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island / Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3|SMW2 section for Cheep Cheep]] acknowledges the names coming from that book).
{{footnote|note|*|[[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable source for naming]] puts Player's Guides above most other third-party guidebooks, including all non-English guidebooks, on the sourcing priority list, but I'm pretty sure the policy only concerns names, which are a different deal from a subject's ''identity''. Like, yeah, Cheep Cheeps are called "Piscatory Petes" in a Player's Guide, but they're still the same as Cheep Cheeps; naming alone shouldn't dictate how articles are organized.}}
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Is Mantas singular or plural? Both are used in the article, but if it's the latter, this page should be Preying Manta. Phoenix Rider 18:44, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

Definitely plural, I'll change the article (you can move it and delete this page) - Marioguy1 (talk)
Additionally, shouldn't it be spelled "Praying Manta" instead of "Preying Manta"(as it is a pun on Praying mantis)? Someone should check the instruction booklet to see how it is spelled. YosharioYoshi holding Mario's Cap artwork from Super Mario 64 DS.
I don't have the game (or the booklet) but on google, one of the sites says it's preying, should we trust it> - Marioguy1 (talk)
What site is it? Not all sources are reliable. YosharioYoshi holding Mario's Cap artwork from Super Mario 64 DS.
[1] does that help? - Marioguy1 (talk)
That seems like it could be an error on the author's part. Phoenix Rider 20:00, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

Based on my findings at Wikipedia Japan, the jellyfish enemy that appears in SMG and SMG2 is not a Preying Mantas but a different enemy called ユラリ Yurari. Should this be made into it's own page? Vent 14:45, 28 May 2012 (EDT)

I also think Jammyfish should have a separate page. They are clearly not the same enemy. BubbleRevolution (talk) 16:13, 30 July 2015 (EDT)

French name source

Where have you found the french name? I putted a citation needed, since the source is unknown. The one who putted it isn't active since a few years (i checked the history), and there's no source for it. Maybe it's on a specific french guide? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi at 12:24, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

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It's just a normal jellyfish with a wacky, but thoroughly obsolete, nickname. Most licensed guidebooks, each for three different releases with decades spacing them out, straight up call them kurage (Japanese for "jellyfish", the literal animal). It's the Player's Guide for SMW2 that's the odd one out, and let's not forget that it's the same book that calls Cheep Cheeps "Flopsy Fish"/"Piscatory Pete", Ukikis "Grinders", and separates one particular Nep-Enut from its species just because it's found underground. Before someone inevitably mentions it, I'm not even making a case for how the Japanese books are somehow more authoritative than the English one just because the Yoshi's Island games themselves were developed in Japan--given the existence of no direct source, such as a manual or the games, to attest the name of this enemy, it's simply a case of 3 different, largely more current sources against 1 source from 1995, all equally official.*

And I mean, yeah, real jellyfish don't have eyes, but fictional attributes don't necessarily prevent a subject from being treated as equivalent to its real life inspiration on this wiki. This fellow A jellyfish used by Wario to obscure Mario's view in the sixth level, Pukupuku Kai. from Mario & Wario also has eyes and is currently covered on the Jellyfish article; and I'm no marine biologist, but I don't think actual jellyfish discharge electricity like what that article appears to suggest.

Given a merge, the section that would cover the Yoshi's Island jellyfish would, of course, still acknowledge the Player's Guide name, but treat it as no more than a curiosity (in the same way the SMW2 section for Cheep Cheep acknowledges the names coming from that book).

* - MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable source for naming puts Player's Guides above most other third-party guidebooks, including all non-English guidebooks, on the sourcing priority list, but I'm pretty sure the policy only concerns names, which are a different deal from a subject's identity. Like, yeah, Cheep Cheeps are called "Piscatory Petes" in a Player's Guide, but they're still the same as Cheep Cheeps; naming alone shouldn't dictate how articles are organized.

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