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Hmmm... I think Super Mario Encyclopedia was released a bit earlier, since some Mario Land enemies turn out that their English name is their Japanese name, but it wouldn't be the case for this. What's the English name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:31, 16 October 2018 (EDT) | Hmmm... I think Super Mario Encyclopedia was released a bit earlier, since some Mario Land enemies turn out that their English name is their Japanese name, but it wouldn't be the case for this. What's the English name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:31, 16 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:The English name is Launch Pad, Yoshi. And on a related side note, there is a Bowser Minion that is calling out to Super Mario Wiki to upgrade its artwork:https://www.mariowiki.com/File:SpiketopNSMBW.png;)--[[User:Hamshamcart|Hamshamcart]] ([[User talk:Hamshamcart|talk]]) 17:47, 24 October 2018 (EDT) | :The English name is Launch Pad, Yoshi. And on a related side note, there is a Bowser Minion that is calling out to Super Mario Wiki to upgrade its artwork:https://www.mariowiki.com/File:SpiketopNSMBW.png;)--[[User:Hamshamcart|Hamshamcart]] ([[User talk:Hamshamcart|talk]]) 17:47, 24 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
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::::::::::::::::Actually, i didn't try to end the discussion, i thought that because no one contributed during a few months, i thought it was settled. Also, you don't need to say that you don't care. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:08, December 14, 2019 (EST) | ::::::::::::::::Actually, i didn't try to end the discussion, i thought that because no one contributed during a few months, i thought it was settled. Also, you don't need to say that you don't care. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:08, December 14, 2019 (EST) | ||
:::::::::::::::::Saying "I don't care for" is just another way of saying you don't like something. The discussion obviously wasn't settled because we never came to a conclusion - if anything, the page should've been moved since the majority of users discussing it agreed to do so, not doing nothing. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:11, December 14, 2019 (EST) | :::::::::::::::::Saying "I don't care for" is just another way of saying you don't like something. The discussion obviously wasn't settled because we never came to a conclusion - if anything, the page should've been moved since the majority of users discussing it agreed to do so, not doing nothing. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:11, December 14, 2019 (EST) | ||
::::::::::::::::::Alright then. Yeah, should probably be renamed to something. As for now, we can't use the name from the Encyclopedia until further notice, if it ever reappears, being named in-game, or something. But i definitely think it should be renamed now, but not sure how will it be set up. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:02, December 15, 2019 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::::::::::I think "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (red)" work fine. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:27, December 28, 2019 (EST) | |||
::::::::::::::::::::Red'd imply a coloar variant. Perhaps Targeting Ted, to make it obvious. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:48, December 28, 2019 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::::::::::::It's a simpler identifier though, and the game itelf does essentially treat it as a color difference, though I'll settle for Targeting Ted if we must. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:12, January 23, 2020 (EST) | |||
(Indent restart) Torpedo Base is fine to me, I support that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:17, January 23, 2020 (EST) | |||
:The articles are now "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (Targeting Ted)" - I do prefer a "red" identifier for the latter but it'd probably be best to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8pmESbfFXk&t=3m9s not] stall it longer. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:08, March 8, 2020 (EDT) | |||
Considering that we voted to partially overturn the Encyclopedia's names, should we call this Launch Pad or Torpedo Ted Launch Pad? [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 08:30, July 12, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:The key word is "partially" - since this is more of an understandable English name than Comet Tico (which was admittedly an edge case to get around Lumacomète), I would say no. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:05, July 21, 2023 (EDT) | |||
==Torpedo Tube...?== | |||
I saw a recently-added notice template on the page, and I want to say this in response. I don't think Torpedo Bases should be officially referred to as Torpedo Tubes to match with Prima Guides for ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]''. I feel such a name wouldn't be universally accurate to the square-shaped appearance of the Torpedo Base in other ''Mario'' games it appears in. --[[User:EleCyon|EleCyon]] ([[User talk:EleCyon|talk]]) 19:57, December 13, 2023 (EST) | |||
:Addendum: Okay so for clarification, I took a closer look, and yeah the Torpedo tubes in ''Galaxy'' look kinda similar with the box-like appearance but with a cannon on it instead of a hand. I still think it's a weird name though since the boxes in SMW do not have cannons. They have tubes. --[[User:EleCyon|EleCyon]] ([[User talk:EleCyon|talk]]) 19:59, December 13, 2023 (EST) |
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Naming Source[edit]
Do someone has a source about their name and the one from Super Mario Galaxy (Ted Blasters)? I check in Super Mario World game credit and I don't see their name (only Torpedo Ted). --(TALK) 10:35, 28 July 2015 (EDT)
- The Prima guide actually refers to them as "torpedo tubes" (granted, it also mistakenly calls them Bullet Bills instead of Torpedo Teds). LinkTheLefty (talk) 01:22, 13 December 2017 (EST)
Super Mario-Kun[edit]
Apparently, Super Mario-Kun had a skit involving the hands from these. Can anyone who can read Japanese tell me if there's anything resembling a potential official name in there? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:21, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
- Top-left speech bubble, Yoshi refers to them as 「手っちゃん」 (Tecchan), which seems to come from 手 (te), meaning "hand", and ちゃん (chan), an affectionate honorific. Mario JC 23:21, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
- Suppose we could split that from Torpedo Tube, since they're pretty clearly different things.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
- That seems to be Yoshi's nickname for the hand as Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. has another name among Super Mario World objects (61): 「トーピード発射台」 (Tōpīdo Hasshadai) "Torpedo Launcher" LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:02, 25 April 2018 (EDT)
- Suppose we could split that from Torpedo Tube, since they're pretty clearly different things.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
English name[edit]
Hmmm... I think Super Mario Encyclopedia was released a bit earlier, since some Mario Land enemies turn out that their English name is their Japanese name, but it wouldn't be the case for this. What's the English name? -- FanOfYoshi 11:31, 16 October 2018 (EDT)
- The English name is Launch Pad, Yoshi. And on a related side note, there is a Bowser Minion that is calling out to Super Mario Wiki to upgrade its artwork:https://www.mariowiki.com/File:SpiketopNSMBW.png;)--Hamshamcart (talk) 17:47, 24 October 2018 (EDT)
- It is "Launch Pad" in the Super Mario World section (page 69) and "Torpedo Ted Launch Pad" in the New Super Mario Bros. U section (page 217). Either way, we are currently deciding what to do about the information presented in Dark Horse's Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:52, 24 October 2018 (EDT)
- Per proposal, should we move to Torpedo Hasshadai? -- FanOfYoshi 05:17, 1 November 2018 (EDT)
- I've found a usable name for Torpedo Hasshadai in the New Super Mario Bros. U files: torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Models/torpedobase. This also includes Search Torpedo Hasshadai, as the black texture is torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Textures/torpedo_base.0 and the red texture is torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Textures/torpedo_base.1. Should we rename to "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (red)" (or "Torpedo Base (Targeting Ted)")? LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:14, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd support that. Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 09:31, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- I think that's too generic in my tastes. -- FanOfYoshi 09:48, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- Doesn't seem any more generic to me than "Bill Blaster". I support the move. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:27, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- "Base" seems to be generically used. -- FanOfYoshi 11:30, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- Not really, the other model is torpedo so it seems fairly specified to me. What exactly makes "base" less preferable than hasshadai? LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:55, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- "Base" isn't descriptive enough for me. I'd prefer to use internal filenames under a more case-by-case basis. -- FanOfYoshi 07:55, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- It's more descriptive (to English speakers) than "Hasshadai". Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 07:58, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- There's the Names in other languages template, right? -- FanOfYoshi 08:09, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- You...can't really get much more specific than what's directly called up by the in-game data, so I'm still not quite sure what you mean by generic. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:55, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Let me tell you in what base is invalid (IMO). It seems to describe a part of the Torpedo rather than talking about the Block. -- FanOfYoshi 11:51, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- ...why would the filename for the torpedo launcher describe the torpedoes rather than the launcher? TheDarkStar 11:56, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- I still support this move, opposition is very flimsy and speculative. There's no reason the filename for the launcher's texture would refer to a part of the Torpedo Teds themselves. I also don't care for the fact that you tried ending the discussion in your favor when you seem to be the only one opposing. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:00, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- Actually, i didn't try to end the discussion, i thought that because no one contributed during a few months, i thought it was settled. Also, you don't need to say that you don't care. -- FanOfYoshi 13:08, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- Saying "I don't care for" is just another way of saying you don't like something. The discussion obviously wasn't settled because we never came to a conclusion - if anything, the page should've been moved since the majority of users discussing it agreed to do so, not doing nothing. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:11, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- Alright then. Yeah, should probably be renamed to something. As for now, we can't use the name from the Encyclopedia until further notice, if it ever reappears, being named in-game, or something. But i definitely think it should be renamed now, but not sure how will it be set up. -- FanOfYoshi 12:02, December 15, 2019 (EST)
- I think "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (red)" work fine. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:27, December 28, 2019 (EST)
- Red'd imply a coloar variant. Perhaps Targeting Ted, to make it obvious. -- FanOfYoshi 08:48, December 28, 2019 (EST)
- It's a simpler identifier though, and the game itelf does essentially treat it as a color difference, though I'll settle for Targeting Ted if we must. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:12, January 23, 2020 (EST)
- Red'd imply a coloar variant. Perhaps Targeting Ted, to make it obvious. -- FanOfYoshi 08:48, December 28, 2019 (EST)
- I think "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (red)" work fine. LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:27, December 28, 2019 (EST)
- Alright then. Yeah, should probably be renamed to something. As for now, we can't use the name from the Encyclopedia until further notice, if it ever reappears, being named in-game, or something. But i definitely think it should be renamed now, but not sure how will it be set up. -- FanOfYoshi 12:02, December 15, 2019 (EST)
- Saying "I don't care for" is just another way of saying you don't like something. The discussion obviously wasn't settled because we never came to a conclusion - if anything, the page should've been moved since the majority of users discussing it agreed to do so, not doing nothing. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:11, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- Actually, i didn't try to end the discussion, i thought that because no one contributed during a few months, i thought it was settled. Also, you don't need to say that you don't care. -- FanOfYoshi 13:08, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- I still support this move, opposition is very flimsy and speculative. There's no reason the filename for the launcher's texture would refer to a part of the Torpedo Teds themselves. I also don't care for the fact that you tried ending the discussion in your favor when you seem to be the only one opposing. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:00, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- ...why would the filename for the torpedo launcher describe the torpedoes rather than the launcher? TheDarkStar 11:56, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- Let me tell you in what base is invalid (IMO). It seems to describe a part of the Torpedo rather than talking about the Block. -- FanOfYoshi 11:51, December 14, 2019 (EST)
- You...can't really get much more specific than what's directly called up by the in-game data, so I'm still not quite sure what you mean by generic. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:55, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- There's the Names in other languages template, right? -- FanOfYoshi 08:09, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- It's more descriptive (to English speakers) than "Hasshadai". Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 07:58, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- "Base" isn't descriptive enough for me. I'd prefer to use internal filenames under a more case-by-case basis. -- FanOfYoshi 07:55, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
- Not really, the other model is torpedo so it seems fairly specified to me. What exactly makes "base" less preferable than hasshadai? LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:55, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- "Base" seems to be generically used. -- FanOfYoshi 11:30, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- Doesn't seem any more generic to me than "Bill Blaster". I support the move. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:27, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- I think that's too generic in my tastes. -- FanOfYoshi 09:48, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd support that. Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 09:31, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
- I've found a usable name for Torpedo Hasshadai in the New Super Mario Bros. U files: torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Models/torpedobase. This also includes Search Torpedo Hasshadai, as the black texture is torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Textures/torpedo_base.0 and the red texture is torpedo.szs/torpedo.bfres/Textures/torpedo_base.1. Should we rename to "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (red)" (or "Torpedo Base (Targeting Ted)")? LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:14, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
(Indent restart) Torpedo Base is fine to me, I support that. 14:17, January 23, 2020 (EST)
- The articles are now "Torpedo Base" and "Torpedo Base (Targeting Ted)" - I do prefer a "red" identifier for the latter but it'd probably be best to not stall it longer. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:08, March 8, 2020 (EDT)
Considering that we voted to partially overturn the Encyclopedia's names, should we call this Launch Pad or Torpedo Ted Launch Pad? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:30, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
- The key word is "partially" - since this is more of an understandable English name than Comet Tico (which was admittedly an edge case to get around Lumacomète), I would say no. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:05, July 21, 2023 (EDT)
Torpedo Tube...?[edit]
I saw a recently-added notice template on the page, and I want to say this in response. I don't think Torpedo Bases should be officially referred to as Torpedo Tubes to match with Prima Guides for Super Mario Galaxy. I feel such a name wouldn't be universally accurate to the square-shaped appearance of the Torpedo Base in other Mario games it appears in. --EleCyon (talk) 19:57, December 13, 2023 (EST)
- Addendum: Okay so for clarification, I took a closer look, and yeah the Torpedo tubes in Galaxy look kinda similar with the box-like appearance but with a cannon on it instead of a hand. I still think it's a weird name though since the boxes in SMW do not have cannons. They have tubes. --EleCyon (talk) 19:59, December 13, 2023 (EST)