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:Blitzwing and I are figuring this one out: we both agree that this whole canon and separate timelines thing is just fanon (it's fan additions to separate or combine since Nintendo has done neither), so the question is, would it be weird to combine games and TV shows into one section?  It should come up as a proposal whether this is appropriate.  Please tell me what is conflicting about this article, and if there are conjectural statements, give 'em the axe per usual. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:56, 16 February 2008 (EST)
:Blitzwing and I are figuring this one out: we both agree that this whole canon and separate timelines thing is just fanon (it's fan additions to separate or combine since Nintendo has done neither), so the question is, would it be weird to combine games and TV shows into one section?  It should come up as a proposal whether this is appropriate.  Please tell me what is conflicting about this article, and if there are conjectural statements, give 'em the axe per usual. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:56, 16 February 2008 (EST)
::No, the article's well written. However, in other articles such as [[Mario]] and [[Luigi]] the cartoons, etc. are listed under "Other Appearances" or whatever, whereas here they're smushed in with the games. While the [[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3|car]][[Super Mario World (show)|toons]] and even those odd [[Super Mario Bros. Super Show|live-action sequences]] don't ''really'' conflict with the games (except for Koopa and the Koopalings' appearances and names; and some other little details I don't remember well enough to list) other programs do, like ''[[The Great Mission to Save Princess Peach]]'' and the [[Super Mario Bros. (movie)|''Super Mario Bros.'' movie]]. Fortunately these alternate timelines don't effect ''this'' article; but you're right that we should probably make a Proposal about it in order to set a standard for all artciles. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]
::No, the article's well written. However, in other articles such as [[Mario]] and [[Luigi]] the cartoons, etc. are listed under "Other Appearances" or whatever, whereas here they're smushed in with the games. While the [[The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3|car]][[Super Mario World (show)|toons]] and even those odd [[Super Mario Bros. Super Show|live-action sequences]] don't ''really'' conflict with the games (except for Koopa and the Koopalings' appearances and names; and some other little details I don't remember well enough to list) other programs do, like ''[[The Great Mission to Save Princess Peach]]'' and the [[Super Mario Bros. (movie)|''Super Mario Bros.'' movie]]. Fortunately these alternate timelines don't effect ''this'' article; but you're right that we should probably make a Proposal about it in order to set a standard for all artciles. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]
:::The problem with not smooshing is that you immeadiately indicate that the cartoons are not part of the canon, which is something we have no official word on.  In the current state, by separating other mediums and videogames, we're making a judgement.  The only way this separation would not be a judgement would be if we, and this is my opinion, I haven't asked Blitz, labeled the section with said infromation as "Video Game Information" and then proceeded to sort everything by release date, including Yoshi's Island.  Sounds wrong, right?  If you can think of an alternate to this that also allows us to put sources that clearly come before others based on their storylines in their proper order, let me know.  As for the movie and "The Great Mission", (oh, and the Amada series as well), I'm hoping we will be able to separate them.  My goal is to separate things that do not attempt to mesh with the games in any way shape or form based on their alternate storylines.  The problem with things like the Super Show, which has previously been called alternate-canon, is that it attempts to follow the same continuity as the video games, occuring before and after SMB1.  Hope that rambling cleared up some stuff.  I hope to get this ball rolling sometime this week. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:15, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Revision as of 22:15, February 17, 2008

Conjecture there and not here

I noticed something... The individual articles for Mr. and Mrs. Mario both say they have conjectural titles, but this article (whose title is merely a mixing of their's) ...doesn't. Is there a reason for this? --YellowYoshi398 21:25, 13 December 2006 (EST)

I added the conjecture template. Paper Jorge

Split

I am proposing to split this page between the two parents, as the mother has appeared on The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! as her own, individual character. -- Booster

Well, then, what will say on Mr. Mario's article? "Mario and Luigi's Father is quite obviously the father of the Mario Bros. He appeared at the end of SMA3." And that's pretty much it. -User:Dodoman
How about just spliting the article into two subsections? By the way, Dodoman, SMA3 is a remake of Yoshi's Island, so I would suggest mentioning that if you end up splitting it. I might go ahead and do that soon. Stumpers! 20:18, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Different Timelines

Aren't the games, live action and animated TV series, and comics all considered seperate from each other? If so, this article should be divided up a bit more to make these distinctions clear, instead of smashing all these conflicting timelines together and sticking a repetative "Appearances" section on the end. - Walkazo

Blitzwing and I are figuring this one out: we both agree that this whole canon and separate timelines thing is just fanon (it's fan additions to separate or combine since Nintendo has done neither), so the question is, would it be weird to combine games and TV shows into one section? It should come up as a proposal whether this is appropriate. Please tell me what is conflicting about this article, and if there are conjectural statements, give 'em the axe per usual. Stumpers! 21:56, 16 February 2008 (EST)
No, the article's well written. However, in other articles such as Mario and Luigi the cartoons, etc. are listed under "Other Appearances" or whatever, whereas here they're smushed in with the games. While the cartoons and even those odd live-action sequences don't really conflict with the games (except for Koopa and the Koopalings' appearances and names; and some other little details I don't remember well enough to list) other programs do, like The Great Mission to Save Princess Peach and the Super Mario Bros. movie. Fortunately these alternate timelines don't effect this article; but you're right that we should probably make a Proposal about it in order to set a standard for all artciles. - Walkazo
The problem with not smooshing is that you immeadiately indicate that the cartoons are not part of the canon, which is something we have no official word on. In the current state, by separating other mediums and videogames, we're making a judgement. The only way this separation would not be a judgement would be if we, and this is my opinion, I haven't asked Blitz, labeled the section with said infromation as "Video Game Information" and then proceeded to sort everything by release date, including Yoshi's Island. Sounds wrong, right? If you can think of an alternate to this that also allows us to put sources that clearly come before others based on their storylines in their proper order, let me know. As for the movie and "The Great Mission", (oh, and the Amada series as well), I'm hoping we will be able to separate them. My goal is to separate things that do not attempt to mesh with the games in any way shape or form based on their alternate storylines. The problem with things like the Super Show, which has previously been called alternate-canon, is that it attempts to follow the same continuity as the video games, occuring before and after SMB1. Hope that rambling cleared up some stuff. I hope to get this ball rolling sometime this week. Stumpers! 21:15, 17 February 2008 (EST)