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::Yes, I did take a look, but things can be a bit hard to identify when there's not necessarily a concrete name for them. And I didn't want to say that an article shouldn't be created just because I'm getting mixed up. I didn't get the encyclopedia (due to plagiarism mentioned above), so I can't check what it says in there either. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:47, December 28, 2020 (EST)
::Yes, I did take a look, but things can be a bit hard to identify when there's not necessarily a concrete name for them. And I didn't want to say that an article shouldn't be created just because I'm getting mixed up. I didn't get the encyclopedia (due to plagiarism mentioned above), so I can't check what it says in there either. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:47, December 28, 2020 (EST)
:::Moreover, I got the encylopedia in French. This means that there is an additionnal layer of translation if it was translated from the english version, but it implies that it has been translated directly from the japanese version. Something funny is that the mistake with the [[? Box]] picture being the [[Propeller Box]] was actually chnaged and corrected. Anyways, I do not know. It is mention as ''Passage secret'' in my book, which translates into Secret passage (they just swaped two words?). [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 17:54, December 28, 2020 (EST)
:::Moreover, I got the encylopedia in French. This means that there is an additionnal layer of translation if it was translated from the english version, but it implies that it has been translated directly from the japanese version. Something funny is that the mistake with the [[? Box]] picture being the [[Propeller Box]] was actually chnaged and corrected. Anyways, I do not know. It is mention as ''Passage secret'' in my book, which translates into Secret passage (they just swaped two words?). [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 17:54, December 28, 2020 (EST)
::::According to [[MarioWiki:Naming#Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia|this]], only the English version is in range of SMBE block, the other languages (probably including French too) are fine, but if I were you, I would still proceed with caution. [[User:Superbound|Superbound]] ([[User talk:Superbound|talk]]) 02:49, December 29, 2020 (EST)

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Hello, Lastro. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly use the {{aboutfile}} template. What you were doing looks like this, and it is an inconvenience for other users to fix up the template. It is simple to learn how to format it correctly. The pre-loaded syntax is shown below.

{{aboutfile
|1=Subject of the image
|2=Where you found the image
|3=Artist
|4=Describe edits, if any
|5=Other versions (use file link)
}}

Just replace the necessary parts with that corresponding information, and remove the entire line for the parameter(s) you don't use. A description of the image subject (parameter 1) should always be included, even if it's just a few words. Please consider the above information before uploading more files. If you continue using {{aboutfile}} incorrectly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

Hello, Lastro. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly categorize the file into a subject category. It's simple to learn how to do so. Just search for the correct category by starting with the following groups:

Images Audio/video files

When uploading, copy the full title of the category and insert it in square brackets into the summary text box below the {{aboutfile}} template, replacing the {{uncategorized}} template entirely. If you're using the upload function from the text editor, simply add the category link to the description. For example, images related to the game Super Mario World would use:

[[Category:Super Mario World images]]
or one it its subcategories. Media files would use:
[[Category:Super Mario World media files]]

Please consider the above information before uploading more files. Keep in mind that some files can belong to multiple categories. Do not put images into the media files category, or vice versa. If you continue uploading files without categorizing them correctly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

Additionally, you should avoid punctuation in the images, aside from the extension.

Also, I don't think we consider Warp Cannon and ! Pipe as items, so they shouldn't use the item infobox. We don't have one for Warp Pipe, so I'm going off of that. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 14:52, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Conversation with Alex95

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your message! About the Cannon Pipe and the ! Pipe, I had check the ? Panel status and it was actually classified as an item, so I decided to do the same with them. Also, how can I have an user page, as I don't have any at this moment. And finally, I've remove the background on a picture of Mega Sledge Bro but I didn't do well with the hammer as it's quite difficult at this part. So go see the result and feel free to delete it or to make it better! Oh, I almost forgot; I'm new to this website so that's why I'm not familiarize with it. Now, I'm focusing on French translation and making pages better! Lastly, I'm french so that's why they might be some grammatical or syntactic errors. Have a nice evening (it's 9:45 PM for me)

Sincerely,

Justin

The ? Panel is classified as an item? That's odd, the player can't use it as one. May have to go over that later...
Welcome to the site, though! Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:22, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Thanks. Oh, also, how do you replace your sign with an image. I have one but I don't know how to replace it. And for my user page, I think you need to activate it. But anyways, I love editing on this website!

You will be able to create your userpage once you are autoconfirmed, which happens automatically after you have had your account for seven days and have made ten edits. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:31, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Oh nice. I'm now changing and reviewing all my uploaded files! So, do you know how to change the sign to an image? (I'm sorry if I'm a little insistent, but I love being edited and tidy)

You mean change a link? You replace the name that's there with the new file name, if you think your file is a better version. There's several other steps involved, though, so what are you trying to do? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:39, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

I misspoke. In fact, I'd like to know how you changed your signature because now it's an image of your name in a Mario font. Also, while I was reviewing my files, I had another question: can you change the name of a file's page (example: change "File:NSMBWSledgeBroModel" to "File:NSMBW Sledge Bro Model")? If so, how? And I almost forgot, thank you very much, I mean, thank you a thousand times for your help.

Ah, user templates. Once you can make your userpage, you can also make a signature page that you can use instead of just basic font. Mine is at User:Alex95/sig, for example. You can learn more userspace stuff at MarioWiki:Userspace.
To move a file (or any page, for that matter), there will be a "move" tab at the top of the page once you are autoconfirmed. After moving the page, you should fix any links that lead to the original image and mark the original file name for deletion (done by putting {{delete}} on the redirect).
You're welcome, no problem ^^ Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:49, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Ok, I understand. But I'm not sure if I have understood the second part. Actually, I would just like to know how to rename a page (because I saw that "File:NSMB2!Pipe" became "File:NSMB2 Exclamation Pipe").

As I said, you have to use the "move" tab and it will let you rename the file. It should not be available to you yet. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:02, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Also, you should sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). This will automatically create your user links and timestamp. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:20, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Okey-dokey! I have a question: is that you who decided to delete the yellow ! switch? I understand you but there was actually the same picture but with a bg before and it wasn't mean to be deleted 1JUST1 (talk) 18:23, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

It got switched back because artwork has a priority. Looking at both the cropped screenshot and the extracted sprite, we should just use the screenshot, as the crop looks pretty rough around the edges. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:29, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Oh... But I can redo the crop, though.

Ehh, the screenshot's fine as it is. A crop isn't necessary. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:38, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Oh, I've finished one... 1JUST1 (talk) 18:41, June 15, 2020 (EDT) In fact, I prefer non-background images... Look:https://www.mariowiki.com/File:NSMBW_Yellow_!_Switch.png

...Why did you reupload it after I already deleted it and said it wasn't necessary? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:48, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

As it was written "Poor crop" so I wanted to improve it, I though this was the issue. And sorry for not answering you directly, it was nearly 1 AM so I went sleeping.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1JUST1 (talk).

Please don't upload cropped versions of existing images with poor transparency. Converting jpgs to png in particular for the sake of cropping and adding transparency is prohibited. Read MarioWiki:Image use policy before making further uploads.

And please remember to sign every comment you make, even on your own talk page. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 06:01, June 16, 2020 (EDT)

Ok, sorry...1JUST1 (talk) 06:12, June 16, 2020 (EDT)

Hi Alex. I wonder if you could move the page Skull switch to Skull Switch. I know it's a small change, but it's written like that, and basically everything has caps on their names. Check out this if you don't believe me (I replaced added the Skull Switch on this page). Thanks! 1JUST1 (talk) 18:07, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Our source shows it in lowercase, so unless you can prove otherwise, there's no reason to move it. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:33, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Go here and you will see of what I'm talking about. Also, could I have a screenshot as I don't have the guide, please? Thanks!

Image proof. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:41, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Ok, I see this is right. But wait, did you go there? They are my proofs but I have one more : the writter just didn't know : he has written "long jump" while you have written it "Long Jump".1JUST1 (talk) 18:48, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Yes, I saw the conversation on Doc's page. She has the same points I do. And while "Long Jump" is used more consistently, in this case, the writer is referring to a jump that is long, not necessarily the usual Long Jump. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:50, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Oh, so I think it will stay as it is... but it feels so weird for me...

Every now and then we get names that don't sound proper because they are being used as a general description rather than a noun. But it's not up to us to correct, as we could end up being wrong and it would be inaccurate, so we use whatever the source provides. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:55, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

In my opinion, this switch just is unnamed, and the author described it as a skull switch. It's like the final ! Switch from NSMBW, I called it the large ! Switch on the wiki as it's basically that, but it's not officially named like that

Yes, exactly. The switch is unnamed, but we are given a description that works as a title, so we use that. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:02, June 18, 2020 (EDT)

Bruh, right now I wanna ask Nintendo how is this thing called...

Don't convert jpgs to pngs and apply transparency. You were just reminded about this. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 09:46, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

Archives

The proposals have been archived. Therefore, they're closed and no longer open to voting and comments. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 04:11, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

Oh, but I'm gonna do another proposal as I don't think Toad themed pages are well organized. Thanks for the info btw! --1JUST1 (talk) 04:19, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
I have to be autoconfirmed... --1JUST1 (talk) 04:20, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

Re: Question about a new page: secret passages

Hi, so, right out of the gate, I just wanted to check whether you were familiar with the situation with the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia- basically, it takes an awful lot of stuff from the wiki, including unofficial names, as well as making a number of other stupid mistakes, so it's not necessarily the best thing to take a look at at the major guide- there was a big proposal not long after the translation to prevent citing it for names, and you can see the sort of mistakes we're looking at from our article. I think I know what you're talking about (I can't say I've ever heard the term "layer 0" used before though, so I might be thinking of the wrong thing), though personally I'd lean towards not creating it- it's relatively common feature in platformer games so it's not necessarily something Mario-specific, and as it doesn't really affect gameplay in a significant way, I don't think it really needs to be mentioned- if I've got the right thing, it's pretty much just an area hidden by a wall. I'm not sure though, so it might be worth bringing it up on an appropriate mainspace talk page, and see if anyone can help you there? Pretty much everyone on this wiki should be trustworthy, so you shouldn't always need to go to an administrator to check- you can always bring it up on a talk page, or the Boards or Discord if you're there, and usually you'll find someone who can help you. BBQ Turtle (talk) 17:40, December 28, 2020 (EST)

Thanks for the information. To be sure about the subject, did you take a look at the World 1-1 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii) article? It mentions it, the secret area reached when you stay on the Warp Pipe of the Rolling Hills. 1JUST1 (talk) 17:43, December 28, 2020 (EST)
Yes, I did take a look, but things can be a bit hard to identify when there's not necessarily a concrete name for them. And I didn't want to say that an article shouldn't be created just because I'm getting mixed up. I didn't get the encyclopedia (due to plagiarism mentioned above), so I can't check what it says in there either. BBQ Turtle (talk) 17:47, December 28, 2020 (EST)
Moreover, I got the encylopedia in French. This means that there is an additionnal layer of translation if it was translated from the english version, but it implies that it has been translated directly from the japanese version. Something funny is that the mistake with the ? Box picture being the Propeller Box was actually chnaged and corrected. Anyways, I do not know. It is mention as Passage secret in my book, which translates into Secret passage (they just swaped two words?). 1JUST1 (talk) 17:54, December 28, 2020 (EST)
According to this, only the English version is in range of SMBE block, the other languages (probably including French too) are fine, but if I were you, I would still proceed with caution. Superbound (talk) 02:49, December 29, 2020 (EST)