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:::No idea. Sounds very unlikely. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | :::No idea. Sounds very unlikely. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | ||
Good, then I'll get rid of it. [[User:FunkyK38]] | Good, then I'll get rid of it. [[User:FunkyK38]] | ||
:Well it's still there, and apparently Swanky is DK's brother... WHAT??? If someone has any proof for all this, then tell us, because I'm removing this non-sense until it's confirmed. --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 19:22, 25 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Girlfriends == | == Girlfriends == | ||
girlfriends aren't really a part of a family until they get married... do they belong here? [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:36, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | girlfriends aren't really a part of a family until they get married... do they belong here? [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:36, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Also there is one that just says friend. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:43, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | :Also there is one that just says friend. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:43, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
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well it might be we really don't know and hey before i forget should the [[Pink Donkey Kong Jr.]] be part of the Kong Family article {{User|Iggykoopa}} | well it might be we really don't know and hey before i forget should the [[Pink Donkey Kong Jr.]] be part of the Kong Family article {{User|Iggykoopa}} | ||
:No. It only appears in ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. Math]]'' and as an alternate color scheme for DK Jr in [[Mario Tennis]]. It has never been seen with any of the other Kongs, and it has not been confirmed if it is a distinct Kong, a DK Jr. clone, or just an alternate color scheme. Adding it would just be speculation. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:18, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | :No. It only appears in ''[[Donkey Kong Jr. Math]]'' and as an alternate color scheme for DK Jr in [[Mario Tennis]]. It has never been seen with any of the other Kongs, and it has not been confirmed if it is a distinct Kong, a DK Jr. clone, or just an alternate color scheme. Adding it would just be speculation. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:18, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Well, what about all these [[Kong]]s? they have the surname too. And, what do you mean Pink DKJR was not seen with the other Kongs? In DKJRMath she was seen with Donkey Kong Jr. AND Cranky Kong back when he was Donkey Kong. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 14:14, 9 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::If characters have the same surname, one can reasonably assume that they are related to some extent, though the ones in the list (fought as bosses, etc.) are probably not as closely related to the main Kongs as the main Kongs are to each other. As for the pink DK. Jr., we don't know if it has a gender, and it is really nothing more than a palette swap in the multiplayer mode of DK Jr. Math, even if it does appear with DK. Jr. and Cranky. It's in the same situation Luigi was in in ''Mario Bros.'' Unless and until the pink DK Jr. appears in another game distinct from DK Jr. (i.e. not a palette swap as in Mario Tennis), it's not really a character and, by extension, not a member of the Kong family. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 14:47, 9 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Diddy and Donkey Kong nephew and uncle == | == Diddy and Donkey Kong nephew and uncle == | ||
this was never confirmed as far as I know. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | this was never confirmed as far as I know. [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 17:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:This[http://web.archive.org/web/20020819225350/www.rareware.com/the_site/rare_games/new_games_digest/dk64_digest/dk64_cl_copy.html] seems to confirm it, and if it's not authentic, nothing is. However, the DKC manual describes Diddy as DK's "nephew wannabe," and other sources refer to him as DK's "little buddy." {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:14, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | :This[http://web.archive.org/web/20020819225350/www.rareware.com/the_site/rare_games/new_games_digest/dk64_digest/dk64_cl_copy.html] seems to confirm it, and if it's not authentic, nothing is. However, the DKC manual describes Diddy as DK's "nephew wannabe," and other sources refer to him as DK's "little buddy." {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:14, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::The manual only says he is a "Donkey Kong wannabe" [http://dkcfans.com/photos/Donkey%20Kong%20Country%201/Manual/donkey-kong-country-1-snes-manual-08.jpg]. Who is the author of that website you linked to? Is it official? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | ::The manual only says he is a "Donkey Kong wannabe" [http://dkcfans.com/photos/Donkey%20Kong%20Country%201/Manual/donkey-kong-country-1-snes-manual-08.jpg]. Who is the author of that website you linked to? Is it official? {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | ||
:::<s>I know what the manual says; I just mentioned it.</s> Anyway, the site is Rare's official site (or at least it was...there's no DKC content on their current site[http://rare.co.uk/]), copyrighted by the Microsoft Corporation in 2010. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:29, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | :::<s>I know what the manual says; I just mentioned it.</s> Anyway, the site is Rare's official site (or at least it was...there's no DKC content on their current site[http://rare.co.uk/]), copyrighted by the Microsoft Corporation in 2010. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:29, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::In that case, you should put the source in the article to avoid confusion in the future. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}} | |||
:::::Done. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 18:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
: Doesn't that contradict? The website says he really is the nephew, but the manual says he just wants to be? [[User:A Link to the Present|A Link to the Present]] 14:15, 9 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Yes, but the website's more official. If you load it like [http://web.archive.org/web/20020819225350/www.rareware.com/the_site/rare_games/new_games_digest/dk64_digest/dk64_cl_copy.html this], there's a copyright by Microsoft (Rare's current owners) dated 2010. However, there's no DK content on that page. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 14:21, 9 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::Why should one be 'more official'? They're both equally as official. If you're a wannabe nephew, you're NOT a nephew. So we should state this originally, and then make a note if Microsoft retconned it. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] 19:23, 15 January 2012 (EST) | |||
== Super Kong == | |||
It is noted on the [[Super Kong]] page that it has an affiliation with the Kong Family. Should we add it in the article? {{User:Akfamilyhome/sig}} 08:44, 26 December 2011 (EST) | |||
:Where? I don't see it anywhere. --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 19:57, 25 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
==Family tree== | |||
[http://web.archive.org/web/20020819225350/www.rareware.com/the_site/rare_games/new_games_digest/dk64_digest/dk64_cl_copy.html This] no longer works. The only familial relation I recall is DK being Cranky's grandson. None of this stuff about Diddy being related too. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] 19:21, 15 January 2012 (EST) | |||
== Merge maybe? == | |||
Aside from structure, what's the significant difference between this page and [[Kong]]? Some of the members on this page (specifically the allies) aren't even Kongs. Can the two be merged somehow? And is "Kong Family" an actual term used? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:37, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:The "Kong Family" is an actual term used in page 26 of both the ''Donkey Kong Country'' and ''Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest'' instruction booklets, and page 16 of the ''Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!'' instruction booklet. In the actual game credits, the first uses "The Kongs", the second uses "Kong Klan", and the third uses "Crucial Kongs". Kong Family refers to the main Kong group of family members and close friends, but yeah, two articles isn't necessary. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:46, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Cranky uses "Kong clan" in the DK64 manual. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:48, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::And "DK crew" is used in the [[DK Rap]]. But, yeah, this can all easily be covered in the [[Kong]] article. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:50, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::I feel this article could easily be merged with the Kong article without losing necessary content, so I would support doing so. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 13:56, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::::Since we now have the support of four users including two administrators, is it okay to merge this page now? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:06, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::::Should we go with "Kong Family" or "Kong"? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:08, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::::::I'd say go with "Kong" in case we decide to cover Kongs that blatantly aren't part of the Kong family (such as the [[Evil Kings]]). Also, since [[Candy Kong]] is just DK's girlfriend, she isn't officially part of the Kong family yet. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:13, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::::::Right, okay. Page can probably be split how it is here, just keeping information [[Kong]] already has and removing information [[Kong Family]] doesn't need. I'll take care of it when I can, though a bit busy right now. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:17, April 5, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==Without understanding== | |||
I am understanding less about this site. What evidence will it take to know that something really exists? | |||
{{quote|Have you been to see the other members of the Kong family? They're not as useful as me of course, but they might be able to help.|Cranky Kong|Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest}} | |||
[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 20:18, April 14 2019 (EDT) | |||
:The pages were merged because it was determined there wasn't enough information for the Kong Family to stand alone as its own article separate from [[Kong]]. If you read the page, you'll notice all the relevant Kong Family information is located there. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:03, April 14, 2019 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 19:03, April 14, 2019
Funky Kong[edit]
So I'm just randomly poking around and I read what someone put there and I'm like "WHAT?!?!?" When did that get confirmed??? Funky K 38
- You mean the "older brother" thing? I have no idea where that came from either. Fawfulfury65
- And the whole thing about being Diddy's father and Wrinkly and Cranky's kid? Where the heck did that come from? User:FunkyK38
Good, then I'll get rid of it. User:FunkyK38
- Well it's still there, and apparently Swanky is DK's brother... WHAT??? If someone has any proof for all this, then tell us, because I'm removing this non-sense until it's confirmed. --Metalex123 (talk) 19:22, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
Girlfriends[edit]
girlfriends aren't really a part of a family until they get married... do they belong here? A Link to the Present 17:36, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Also there is one that just says friend. A Link to the Present 17:43, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Those characters have the Kong surname, so they must have some relation to the others. Mario4Ever (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Don't bring that up. If Candy Kong/Donkey Kong and Dixie Kong/Diddy Kong are related, and they're dating... ew. --Reversinator 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- I'm guessing that the relation in those cases is very distant. It's still not the most pleasant idea to consider, though. Of course, many human beings are very, very distantly related and have no knowledge of that relation...and no, I'm not talking about the Judeo-Christian creation myth, but I digress. Just be glad no one's been bold enough to put anything relating to this as trivia. Mario4Ever (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Don't bring that up. If Candy Kong/Donkey Kong and Dixie Kong/Diddy Kong are related, and they're dating... ew. --Reversinator 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Those characters have the Kong surname, so they must have some relation to the others. Mario4Ever (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
@user Mario4Ever not really you could have the same last name and not be related but in this case there Apes and apparently they practice incest Iggykoopa (talk)
- Hopefully, that isn't the case. Mario4Ever (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
well it might be we really don't know and hey before i forget should the Pink Donkey Kong Jr. be part of the Kong Family article Iggykoopa (talk)
- No. It only appears in Donkey Kong Jr. Math and as an alternate color scheme for DK Jr in Mario Tennis. It has never been seen with any of the other Kongs, and it has not been confirmed if it is a distinct Kong, a DK Jr. clone, or just an alternate color scheme. Adding it would just be speculation. Mario4Ever (talk) 18:18, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- Well, what about all these Kongs? they have the surname too. And, what do you mean Pink DKJR was not seen with the other Kongs? In DKJRMath she was seen with Donkey Kong Jr. AND Cranky Kong back when he was Donkey Kong. A Link to the Present 14:14, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
- If characters have the same surname, one can reasonably assume that they are related to some extent, though the ones in the list (fought as bosses, etc.) are probably not as closely related to the main Kongs as the main Kongs are to each other. As for the pink DK. Jr., we don't know if it has a gender, and it is really nothing more than a palette swap in the multiplayer mode of DK Jr. Math, even if it does appear with DK. Jr. and Cranky. It's in the same situation Luigi was in in Mario Bros. Unless and until the pink DK Jr. appears in another game distinct from DK Jr. (i.e. not a palette swap as in Mario Tennis), it's not really a character and, by extension, not a member of the Kong family. Mario4Ever (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
- Well, what about all these Kongs? they have the surname too. And, what do you mean Pink DKJR was not seen with the other Kongs? In DKJRMath she was seen with Donkey Kong Jr. AND Cranky Kong back when he was Donkey Kong. A Link to the Present 14:14, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
Diddy and Donkey Kong nephew and uncle[edit]
this was never confirmed as far as I know. A Link to the Present 17:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- This[1] seems to confirm it, and if it's not authentic, nothing is. However, the DKC manual describes Diddy as DK's "nephew wannabe," and other sources refer to him as DK's "little buddy." Mario4Ever (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- The manual only says he is a "Donkey Kong wannabe" [2]. Who is the author of that website you linked to? Is it official? Fawfulfury65
I know what the manual says; I just mentioned it.Anyway, the site is Rare's official site (or at least it was...there's no DKC content on their current site[3]), copyrighted by the Microsoft Corporation in 2010. Mario4Ever (talk) 18:29, 8 April 2011 (EDT)- In that case, you should put the source in the article to avoid confusion in the future. Fawfulfury65
- Done. Mario4Ever (talk) 18:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
- In that case, you should put the source in the article to avoid confusion in the future. Fawfulfury65
- The manual only says he is a "Donkey Kong wannabe" [2]. Who is the author of that website you linked to? Is it official? Fawfulfury65
- Doesn't that contradict? The website says he really is the nephew, but the manual says he just wants to be? A Link to the Present 14:15, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
- Yes, but the website's more official. If you load it like this, there's a copyright by Microsoft (Rare's current owners) dated 2010. However, there's no DK content on that page. Mario4Ever (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
- Why should one be 'more official'? They're both equally as official. If you're a wannabe nephew, you're NOT a nephew. So we should state this originally, and then make a note if Microsoft retconned it. Tyciol 19:23, 15 January 2012 (EST)
- Yes, but the website's more official. If you load it like this, there's a copyright by Microsoft (Rare's current owners) dated 2010. However, there's no DK content on that page. Mario4Ever (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
Super Kong[edit]
It is noted on the Super Kong page that it has an affiliation with the Kong Family. Should we add it in the article? Akfamilyhome 08:44, 26 December 2011 (EST)
- Where? I don't see it anywhere. --Metalex123 (talk) 19:57, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
Family tree[edit]
This no longer works. The only familial relation I recall is DK being Cranky's grandson. None of this stuff about Diddy being related too. Tyciol 19:21, 15 January 2012 (EST)
Merge maybe?[edit]
Aside from structure, what's the significant difference between this page and Kong? Some of the members on this page (specifically the allies) aren't even Kongs. Can the two be merged somehow? And is "Kong Family" an actual term used? 13:37, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- The "Kong Family" is an actual term used in page 26 of both the Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest instruction booklets, and page 16 of the Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! instruction booklet. In the actual game credits, the first uses "The Kongs", the second uses "Kong Klan", and the third uses "Crucial Kongs". Kong Family refers to the main Kong group of family members and close friends, but yeah, two articles isn't necessary. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:46, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Cranky uses "Kong clan" in the DK64 manual. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:48, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- And "DK crew" is used in the DK Rap. But, yeah, this can all easily be covered in the Kong article. (T|C) 13:50, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- I feel this article could easily be merged with the Kong article without losing necessary content, so I would support doing so. --TheFlameChomp (talk) 13:56, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Since we now have the support of four users including two administrators, is it okay to merge this page now? (T|C) 14:06, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Should we go with "Kong Family" or "Kong"? 14:08, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd say go with "Kong" in case we decide to cover Kongs that blatantly aren't part of the Kong family (such as the Evil Kings). Also, since Candy Kong is just DK's girlfriend, she isn't officially part of the Kong family yet. (T|C) 14:13, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Right, okay. Page can probably be split how it is here, just keeping information Kong already has and removing information Kong Family doesn't need. I'll take care of it when I can, though a bit busy right now. 14:17, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- I'd say go with "Kong" in case we decide to cover Kongs that blatantly aren't part of the Kong family (such as the Evil Kings). Also, since Candy Kong is just DK's girlfriend, she isn't officially part of the Kong family yet. (T|C) 14:13, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Should we go with "Kong Family" or "Kong"? 14:08, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Since we now have the support of four users including two administrators, is it okay to merge this page now? (T|C) 14:06, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- I feel this article could easily be merged with the Kong article without losing necessary content, so I would support doing so. --TheFlameChomp (talk) 13:56, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- And "DK crew" is used in the DK Rap. But, yeah, this can all easily be covered in the Kong article. (T|C) 13:50, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
- Cranky uses "Kong clan" in the DK64 manual. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:48, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
Without understanding[edit]
I am understanding less about this site. What evidence will it take to know that something really exists?
- “Have you been to see the other members of the Kong family? They're not as useful as me of course, but they might be able to help.”
- —Cranky Kong, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
ChristopherPAraujo (talk) 20:18, April 14 2019 (EDT)
- The pages were merged because it was determined there wasn't enough information for the Kong Family to stand alone as its own article separate from Kong. If you read the page, you'll notice all the relevant Kong Family information is located there. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 20:03, April 14, 2019 (EDT)