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:::Just a question, Tailikku: how many names did you change while using the JP Wikipedia as a source? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} | :::Just a question, Tailikku: how many names did you change while using the JP Wikipedia as a source? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} | ||
::::The ones from DK64 and a few from WL2/3. Although some of the Wario Land examples can be backed up by the Japanese Encyclopedia cite. | ::::The ones from DK64 and a few from WL2/3. Although some of the Wario Land examples can be backed up by the Japanese Encyclopedia cite. | ||
:::::Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with LTL on this one: a fansite is a fansite. For a long time, this wiki used to only allow accounts to edit, but that didn't mean everything was 100% accurate. If anything, the policies were a lot looser than they are now, meaning that a lot of things went by that wouldn't be allowed today. Besides that, [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B064 I looked at the Japanese Wikipedia page], and there is not a single source for any of their names. Using it itself as a source is simply not a good idea. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} |
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Hi! Great edits so far! If you are trying to add a "Names in other languages" section, take note that the section goes usually directly before the trivia section. Anyway, I hope you enjoy your stay! :) It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 02:19, 9 September 2014 (EDT)
Names
Hello. I've noticed most of your contributions have been moving pages or adding foreign names. The wiki's staff has recently pushed for better and more consistent sourcing for names so if you could provide references for future contributions (and, if possible, provide sources for previous contributions), that'd be p. cool. --Glowsquid (talk) 19:52, 24 November 2014 (EST)
SMB3 World names
Hey, just to let you know, we've had a proposal about which set of names to use, and have agreed to use the "Land" names as seen in the most recent release of Super Mario Bros. 3, that being the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U Virtual Console releases. So unless a proposal passes that has us change back to the other names, please don't move them.
- As the one who made that proposal, I should also mention that after it was settled, Super Smash Bros. for Wii U used Pipe Land as the name of World 7 rather than Pipe Maze in the "Pipe" trophy...which probably means it might be a bit of a while before a revert can be legitimately reconsidered. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)
- Even so, the "Land" names are too generic and only touch upon the theme of the world, while the unique names are more widespread, descriptive, and are the true original names due to being in the PRG0 carts compared to the "Land" names coming from the PRG1 revision that was the basis of the Virtual Console version. If anything the trophy was referring to the Virtual Console version and not the original version.--Tailikku1 (talk) 00:26, 21 December 2014 (EST)
- Tailikku, I am sorry to say, even if they are generic, they are official. The words of one user don't change the way it stands. I myself agree with you, and if you feel strongly about this, you can start a proposal (See proposal under community), and I will surely support you.Toad and his brigade! 00:32, 21 December 2014 (EST)
- Depends on what you mean by "true original". LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:44, 21 December 2014 (EST)
- Even so, the "Land" names are too generic and only touch upon the theme of the world, while the unique names are more widespread, descriptive, and are the true original names due to being in the PRG0 carts compared to the "Land" names coming from the PRG1 revision that was the basis of the Virtual Console version. If anything the trophy was referring to the Virtual Console version and not the original version.--Tailikku1 (talk) 00:26, 21 December 2014 (EST)
Foreign References
Hey, I think it's great that you're adding Japanese names to some of the articles! However, I should let you know that the decision to include proper citations for official names also extends to any additional names in other languages. If you're using a manual/guide, game or website, be sure to include it in your edit (if using the latter, make sure it's a reputable source; if former, then at least a page number). The reference for those names may not be obvious to some users, so leaving it uncited may unfortunately run the risk of someone eventually removing it. The effort is very appreciated, though, so keep this in mind and continue contributing! LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:43, 30 January 2015 (EST)
- What he said. Foreign names are held to the same standard of sourcings as regular ones. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2015 (EST)
Big Scorper
There are still some unresolved matters in regards to the Sandworm/Big Scorper. Before making any other edits, keep the article as it was at the start and continue the discussion. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
Akoya Kai
Hello there! Could I ask you where you found the name for Akoya Kai? Considering the article currently doesn't have a source, it'd probably be helpful if you could provide one. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- It was from the Japanese Wikipedia page. Before you go telling me that it's an unreliable source, it actually is a reliable source; I have seen another website (West Mansion) use that same site to annalyze the plot of the 16-bit Splatterhouse games. The reason for this is that unlike the English one, it requires an account to make edits and it is linked to the official (and still functioning) sites. --Tailikku1 (talk) 08:41, 10 April 2015 (EDT)
- But a wiki in and of itself is never a good source to begin with unless it can adequately back itself up (and even then, it's only as good as the sources it uses, which is why Mario Wiki strives to be next to Nintendo). It doesn't matter if there are more pages that claim to be protected - we've already seen enough examples where Japanese Wikipedia misspells or misinforms. In my experience, a general, broad wiki is also more prone to less meticulous fact-checking. Looking at the West Mansion site in question, they provide manual scans, and when they do resort to wiki research, they say up front that it's not necessarily 100%. Moreover - even if they didn't, we shouldn't go by what other websites from entirely different fandoms do, as Mario Wiki has its own set of rules and expectations. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:25, 10 April 2015 (EDT)
- Just a question, Tailikku: how many names did you change while using the JP Wikipedia as a source? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- The ones from DK64 and a few from WL2/3. Although some of the Wario Land examples can be backed up by the Japanese Encyclopedia cite.
- Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with LTL on this one: a fansite is a fansite. For a long time, this wiki used to only allow accounts to edit, but that didn't mean everything was 100% accurate. If anything, the policies were a lot looser than they are now, meaning that a lot of things went by that wouldn't be allowed today. Besides that, I looked at the Japanese Wikipedia page, and there is not a single source for any of their names. Using it itself as a source is simply not a good idea. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- The ones from DK64 and a few from WL2/3. Although some of the Wario Land examples can be backed up by the Japanese Encyclopedia cite.
- Just a question, Tailikku: how many names did you change while using the JP Wikipedia as a source? Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- But a wiki in and of itself is never a good source to begin with unless it can adequately back itself up (and even then, it's only as good as the sources it uses, which is why Mario Wiki strives to be next to Nintendo). It doesn't matter if there are more pages that claim to be protected - we've already seen enough examples where Japanese Wikipedia misspells or misinforms. In my experience, a general, broad wiki is also more prone to less meticulous fact-checking. Looking at the West Mansion site in question, they provide manual scans, and when they do resort to wiki research, they say up front that it's not necessarily 100%. Moreover - even if they didn't, we shouldn't go by what other websites from entirely different fandoms do, as Mario Wiki has its own set of rules and expectations. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:25, 10 April 2015 (EDT)