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:::Okay, pretty sure I did them all correctly. Does [[Invade Wario Castle]] also need to be moved? Also, I wonder if it'd be better if [[Defeat the giant spear man (Go to the cellar)]] and [[Stop that train! (Go to the cellar)]] had exclamation marks in the identifiers, seeing as the chapter name ([[Go to the cellar!!]]) does. Also, is it ''really'' "[[Ruins at the Bottom of the sea]]"? All the other chapter names remain uppercase, so this halfway-lowercase title seems rather bizarre... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:30, 30 January 2015 (EST)
:::Okay, pretty sure I did them all correctly. Does [[Invade Wario Castle]] also need to be moved? Also, I wonder if it'd be better if [[Defeat the giant spear man (Go to the cellar)]] and [[Stop that train! (Go to the cellar)]] had exclamation marks in the identifiers, seeing as the chapter name ([[Go to the cellar!!]]) does. Also, is it ''really'' "[[Ruins at the Bottom of the sea]]"? All the other chapter names remain uppercase, so this halfway-lowercase title seems rather bizarre... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:30, 30 January 2015 (EST)
::::I guess it makes sense that they're treating Wario Castle as a proper name, same with Syrup Castle, but yeah, that "Bottom of the sea" is cringe-worthy (same with "''the'' Syrup's treasure", for that matter - Engrish is fun until it gets into the page names). The lack of consistency in the chapter titles is also regrettable. I really want to smooth both matters out just to make things easier on the eyes and memory, rather than forcing folks to try to keep track of which isolated ones are the exceptions to the capitalization rules... - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 21:42, 30 January 2015 (EST)

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Archive

Re:Grinder/Ukiki

Well, technically, your message got to me a minute too late, but I'm not such a stickler for the rules that I won't say "eh, close enough" (plus, admins are allowed to veto things after the fact if we want, anyway, so w/e, there's many reasons for it to be doable). Anyway, once I'm done here, I'll go cancel it to make way for a full move proposal. And in regards to your other question, since you'd have to move the stuff by manually cutting and pasting, the corresponding page history would have to stay here, which is less than ideal. However, this method of archiving is allowed as long as you only do it sparingly (it's discussed on MW:Userpsace, if you're curious), so feel free to move the extra 2014 stuff if you want. - Walkazo 19:19, 5 January 2015 (EST)

Re:Little Mouser / Mowz

Thanks for telling me; I've changed my vote since, as other have said, Little Mouser appears to be the latest and most commonly used name. Chocolate Mario (talk) 11:59, 9 January 2015 (EST)

Fire Bro.

All I know right now is that it's spelled "Fire Bro." in Super Mario 3D World.

Really it's just me feeling the spelling with the period is the most common.

-Toa 95 (talk)

The name doesn't show up in Captain Toad and as far as I know there isn't a trophy or anything in the latest Smash Bros., though the latest spelling actually would be without the period apparently, according to Mario Golf: World Tour, unless they're mentioned in the Mario Kart 8 strategy guide just in a throwaway line for a description of Bowser's Castle mentioning how they show up or something. At the same time, I also don't know if uses with the period outweigh those without.

-Toa 95 (talk)

Seeing as how it's used in the Smash Bros. trophy, not entirely.

-Toa 95 (talk)

Well... huh... I could have sworn it was... I guess I'm just used to that spelling...

-Toa 95 (talk)

Super Mario "Big Dictionary"

Is that an official site? From what I can tell, it's a fansite and, though its cache of WL4 names are reportedly good, the same can't be said for Yoshi Touch & Go, the Propeller Mūcho's game of origin. I don't want to create any facts from erroneously citing something. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Not allowing email responses would be going too far. You're implying that the user supplying the email could be making it up (if I'm wrong on this, please correct me), but going in with the idea of "don't trust the editor" is ludicrous for an editor-driven site. If a brand-new account is claiming this, sure, but any other user should be perfectly allowed to provide emails that reveal information. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

re:Old Guide Question

The content is uploaded for informative purpose, so yeah, sure. --Glowsquid (talk) 12:45, 25 January 2015 (EST)

Proper nouns

Hi, I've noticed you moved a few enemy names to be lowercase based on their spelling in the level titles, but MarioWiki:Naming actually states that proper nouns (like enemy names) should always be capitalized regardless of what the source did. This is mainly for consistency (the vast majority of enemy names are capitalized, so having the odd lowercase name would stick out and look strange), but also clarity within the articles (so the names stand out). The Mario series is pretty dreadful when it comes to being consistent with its names, so we take some liberties where we can to avoid being similarly all over the map, at least for grey areas like capitalization. I'm not sure about the level names themselves, but the enemy names we extract from them should definitely be left uppercase. I hope you understand. - Walkazo 13:10, 29 January 2015 (EST)

I'd actually forgotten we had it written down somewhere at first myself: I remembered discussing it, but only after checking the proposal archives turned up nothing did I think to look at the actual policy page... My knee-jerk reaction is to capitalize everything always, but that's probably just me (hence I made sure to check for neutral policy before saying anything). The level titles are more like phrases than isolated proper nouns like the enemy names (and also don't tend to appear outside of game-specific lists), so I think it should be okay if they're lowercase - the hope being that the games at last have internal consistency about how they write the titles, of course. - Walkazo 14:22, 29 January 2015 (EST)
My guess is that it's the exclamation marks. Pretty sure it won't stop me from moving them, so give me a list of the pending renames and I'll do what I can. I'll also fix the talk page issues: if there's anything besides a redirect back to the being-moved page on the destination page (including delete templates), it'll block the move, hence some of them won't go through. - Walkazo 11:01, 30 January 2015 (EST)
Okay, pretty sure I did them all correctly. Does Invade Wario Castle also need to be moved? Also, I wonder if it'd be better if Defeat the giant spear man (Go to the cellar) and Stop that train! (Go to the cellar) had exclamation marks in the identifiers, seeing as the chapter name (Go to the cellar!!) does. Also, is it really "Ruins at the Bottom of the sea"? All the other chapter names remain uppercase, so this halfway-lowercase title seems rather bizarre... - Walkazo 19:30, 30 January 2015 (EST)
I guess it makes sense that they're treating Wario Castle as a proper name, same with Syrup Castle, but yeah, that "Bottom of the sea" is cringe-worthy (same with "the Syrup's treasure", for that matter - Engrish is fun until it gets into the page names). The lack of consistency in the chapter titles is also regrettable. I really want to smooth both matters out just to make things easier on the eyes and memory, rather than forcing folks to try to keep track of which isolated ones are the exceptions to the capitalization rules... - Walkazo 21:42, 30 January 2015 (EST)