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#{{User|MeritC}} Per all; in my opinion, this is under the "species" case here for this installment.
#{{User|MeritC}} Per all; in my opinion, this is under the "species" case here for this installment.
#{{User|B.wilson}} And the [[MarioWiki:Citation Policy|proof]] is... ?
#{{User|B.wilson}} And the [[MarioWiki:Citation Policy|proof]] is... ?
<h4>Comments</h4>
===Bookmarks===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">OPPOSE 2-19</span>
When a user wants to find an article that they often visit, they would need to type in the searchbar. When an internet user wants to find a website that they often visit, they don't search in a google search bar, they go to Bookmarks in their internet browser and find their favourite websites. It should be the same here on the Super Mario Wiki. For pages and articles that we often visit, there should be a bookmark section for our individual account somewhere on the page, like on the top next to ''my watchlist'' or on the side bar under ''navigation''. Here, we should be able to bookmark pages for easy navigation. If you agree, please support me.
'''Proposer''':{{User|YoshiKong}}<br>
'''Deadline''':January 11, 2012, 23:59 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per my proposal.
#{{User|Pichi-Hime6}} I totally agree with Yoshi Kong. I've actually been wanting something like that since I joined the wiki.
====Oppose====
#{{User|Baby Mario Bloops}} - On this wiki, the articles themselves have internet links to them. If you feel like you visit the page quite often, then bookmark it like you would with any other site. There is no reason to add a feature that you can already do.
#{{User|Bop1996}} Per BMB. Also, it's not hard to find an article using the search bar at all, and the watchlist feature helps you keep tabs on important pages, so there's really no need for it.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per both.
#{{User|Jazama}} This proposal is redundant to the watchlist and to the bookmarks that comes with all browsers.
#{{User|Raven Effect}} Per All
#{{User|Commander Code-8}} This seems a bit pointless. Per all.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per BMB and Bop1996.
#{{User|M&SG}} - Per all.
#{{User|Lakituthequick}} Per Baby Mario Bloops and Bop1996
#{{User|Magikrazy51}} Assuming everyone who visits the wiki has more than one finger and can use a keyboard easily, searching in the search bar isn't hard at all. It's so easy, 2 stalks of celery and a paper towel could do it. Per all.
#{{User|Skyward Yoshi}} We have a contents page on are articles. Per All.
#{{User|RandomYoshi}} - Per all.
#{{User|Hyper Yoshi}} It's simple enough to search.
#{{User|Akfamilyhome}} Per all. You can just bookmark it using your browser.
#{{User|Mariomario64}} &ndash; Like others have been saying, this is kinda useless because we can either use the watchlist or bookmark it on our browsers. If we can do those things, I don't see the point in adding this.
#{{User|B.wilson}} Creating a JS (.js) file is required for a feature such as this. If creating the JS file wasn't too overly complicated, I would probably support this decision; however making this "bookmark" feature is way too complicated. You could possibly consider trying to make a .js file of your own. Re-propose once it's done so we could consider moving it to MW space. I'm sorry.
#{{User|ThirdMarioBro}} This additional feature would be unnecessary, especially since the watchlist already does this.
#{{User|Phoenix}} Per all.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per all.


<h4>Comments</h4>
<h4>Comments</h4>

Revision as of 20:34, January 11, 2012


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MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive Template


Change Navigation Templates Colors

SUPPORT 9-6

The navigation templates have a strange choice of colors. Some are hideous. The Mario Wiki could be more beautiful and organizated by changing game Navigation Templates by series (Super Mario series in red and DK in brown, for example). It will make the Navigation Templates less confusing and easier to understand. See Mario page Navigation Templates: so messy.

Proposer: Ultra Koopa (talk)
Deadline: December 11, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Ultra Koopa (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. ThePremiumYoshi (talk) - Yeah, it's better to change the color of some Templates. While others are fine, there are some Templates with horrid color, like the Super Mario Kart Template which is... PINK! This color totally doesn't fit SMK. Per proposal.
  3. Magikrazy51 (talk) Per proposal. Pink would better suit the Super Princess Peach template, not the Nintendo DS Games template. That would be better as red or blue.
  4. New Super Yoshi (talk) Some of the Colors just don't work right. Per All.
  5. Bowser's luma (talk) Good idea - trading psychadellia for functionality.
  6. Jazama (talk) Per all
  7. RandomYoshi (talk) — Per Magikrazy51.
  8. Lakituthequick (talk) We need some cleanup, yes.
  9. Toad85 (talk) Seems legit.

Oppose

  1. Knife (talk) – I don't really disagree with the premise, but I feel your proposal isn't specific enough to actually do something. What I think you should do is make a draft page detailing navigation color scheme and put up a Writing Guideline proposal.
  2. Coincollector (talk) - Partly oppose, backing up Knife's comment. Also see my comment.
  3. Bop1996 (talk) Per Knife.
  4. Mario4Ever (talk) Per the three above me.
  5. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - I see no reason to change it, and changing it could result in more difficult time figuring out which template is which. Per all.
  6. SuperYoshiBros (talk) - Per Baby Mario Bloops.

Comments

Actually I think that some of the templates need a better color scheme. Change color scheme because they are colored in a "weird" manner and some whose colors don't allow to read clearly. Fine examples are the {{bee}}, {{MK7}}, {{Fuzzy}}, {{MP3}}, among a vast quantity of others that would make the list considerably long. On the other hand I agree with Knife that the templates require a better maintenace, following a firm writing guideline for the creation of templates. However this is a discussion that has long been even in our discussions in the boards. I suggest some of you to see my past proposal that overlaps with this topic. However, not all templates look so bad as to need a more proper color, like those used for the consoles - which they follow certain guideline to color the template according to the topic, although doesn't work for everything, and some of these really need a better color coding, for example, the Mario series-related templates and the Donkey Kong-related templates. Coincollector (talk)

@ Magikrazy51: The color of the DS' template was based in that japanese added some color-coding to their consoles: pink for the DS, light Bbue for the Wii, and red for the 3DS. Coincollector (talk)
@ Knife I already have a draft presentation showing some colors for the Templates.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ultra Koopa (talk).

You didn't link to it in your proposal, as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. Your first three days are up anyway so it's too late to implement a major change like that. As I said before, you should make a Writing Guideline (with a written policy to complement the template color examples). Even if this proposal passes, you won't really have the ability to do anything since it is so vague.--Knife (talk) 11:12, 8 December 2011 (EST)

I'm really wanting to complete this proposals. If I did something wrong, tell me, please. And I can do it in the right way. Ultra Koopa (talk)

It's already been mentioned above. Bop1996 (talk)

Star images

SUPPORT 18-0

Just a small thing, though it covers enough range to be a proposal. Look on the stars in the info boxes at Bob-omb Battlefield and Noki Bay and compare it to the ones at Gusty Garden Galaxy and Melty Monster Galaxy. The first uses star images from Super Mario Galaxy while the second one doesn't even have an star/shine images. The Galaxy ones are right, but not the ones before it.

Basically, I want to do is have the stars for each template in everyone world/boss match the game that they are in. Replace the SMG star sprites with SM64 Stars for Super Mario 64-related things; add a shine set for the Super Mario Sunshine areas/bosses.

Important, not important, it would make both more sense and more consistency. And if you still don't know what I'm talking about, just look to the right in the character box and scroll down to Stars to find it.

Proposer: Baby Mario Bloops (talk)
Deadline: December 19, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Per proposal.
  2. Tails777 (talk) That has been bothering me too. Stars aren't in Super Mario Sunshine, Shine Sprites are. Per proposal.
  3. M&SG (talk) - I will agree that this needs to be dealt with.
  4. RandomYoshi (talk) - Per all.
  5. Knife (talk) – I don't think you need a proposal to do this change, it seems like common sense. Per all.
  6. Walkazo (talk) - Per Baby Mario Bloops.
  7. Bop1996 (talk) I don't see any reason not to replace the inconsistent stars with the more consistent Shine Sprites or SM64 Power Stars. Per proposal.
  8. Mario4Ever (talk) Per all.
  9. Jazama (talk) Per all
  10. Marwikedor (talk) Per all. A proposal is not necessary, just do it.
  11. Lakituthequick (talk) Great idea, we had to do this earlier
  12. New Super Yoshi (talk) It just makes a lot more sence than using sprites from later games.
  13. Rise Up Above It (talk) Good idea. The inconsistency has been bugging me ever since I first noticed it.
  14. Raven Effect (talk) Per All
  15. Toad85 (talk) Per BMB.
  16. Nabber (talk) Per Tails777.
  17. Yoshi's Island (talk) Per proposal.
  18. Mr.C (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Comments

Italized titles

OPPOSE 1-11

Here with my 2nd proposal: You know, every time I read a game/film/comic article, I feel somewhat confused, in the sense I don't understand why the first word for an article is bolded and italized but the very top word isn't, yes, that's the article's title. Much like Wikipedia has been doing, we should have a template that italizes the title for games/films/comic in order to match how we are doing in the first word, and to recall that article is about of a work, play, etc. Perhaps we don't need the title to be bolded but only italized. I gather these code long ago that actually italizes titles:

<includeonly>{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:}}{{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{#ifexpr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|{{{1|}}})}} > 1|''{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|0|{{#expr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|(}} - 1}}}}''<span class="dim-brackets">{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|(}} - 1}}|0}}</span>|''{{PAGENAME}}''}}|''{{PAGENAME}}''}}}}

The problem here is that it completely italizes the title, while some articles only need some words to be italized (the Mario (series) and Donkey Kong (series) are good examples), so if the proposal passes, we might need to make a code that could italize certain words, that range from the whole title to a single word.

Proposer: Byllant (talk)
Deadline: December 20, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Create a new template

  1. Byllant (talk) - I kinda like the idea.

Don't create anything

  1. Bop1996 (talk) Per this.
  2. Raven Effect (talk) Per that
  3. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Bop1996.
  4. Tails777 (talk) Per all.
  5. Propeller Toad (talk) I agree with the rest (essentially per Bob1996). This feature is unneeded on this Wiki.
  6. M&SG (talk) - It's not really needed, since you only need to input two apostrophes to enable italics. No need to go more advanced than that.
  7. Jazama (talk) Per all.
  8. RandomYoshi (talk) – Per all.
  9. New Super Yoshi (talk) Per all.
  10. Toad85 (talk) Creating a template for just italicizing is an excuse for laziness. Per all who agree with me.
  11. ThePremiumYoshi (talk) - Yeah, it would be actually more complicate, when you can just use two apostrophes. Per M&SG.

Comments

Decide if the Yellow and Blue Toad in SM3DL are the same ones from NSMBW

 DELETED BY PROPOSER

There is only one Blue Toad and one Yellow Toad that appear in SM3DL and no other color Toad appears other than the Red Toad apart from Green and Pink Toads in the Title Screen.

Proposer: New Super Yoshi (talk)
Deadline:January 5th, 2012, 23:59 GMT

The Toads are the same from NSMBW

  1. New Super Yoshi (talk) Per my Proposal

The Toads are not the same from NSMBW

  1. Superfiremario (talk) I think it's more likely to be a Toad Brigate
  2. Mario4Ever (talk) Unless and until there is an official source connecting the two games' Toads, any claims that they are one and the same are speculation.
  3. Bop1996 (talk) Per Mario4Ever.
  4. Tails777 (talk) The 2 Toads appear seperate from all other Toads (except the ones that need saving within levels) while the Yellow and Blue Toads in 3D Land appear with 3 other Toads. We have no proof that the ones from NSMBW and SM3DL are the same. In other words, per Mario4Ever.
  5. Jazama (talk) Per all
  6. Raven Effect (talk) Per all
  7. MeritC (talk) Per all; in my opinion, this is under the "species" case here for this installment.
  8. B.wilson (talk) And the proof is... ?

Comments

Bookmarks

OPPOSE 2-19

When a user wants to find an article that they often visit, they would need to type in the searchbar. When an internet user wants to find a website that they often visit, they don't search in a google search bar, they go to Bookmarks in their internet browser and find their favourite websites. It should be the same here on the Super Mario Wiki. For pages and articles that we often visit, there should be a bookmark section for our individual account somewhere on the page, like on the top next to my watchlist or on the side bar under navigation. Here, we should be able to bookmark pages for easy navigation. If you agree, please support me.

Proposer:YoshiKong (talk)
Deadline:January 11, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. YoshiKong (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. Pichi-Hime6 (talk) I totally agree with Yoshi Kong. I've actually been wanting something like that since I joined the wiki.

Oppose

  1. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - On this wiki, the articles themselves have internet links to them. If you feel like you visit the page quite often, then bookmark it like you would with any other site. There is no reason to add a feature that you can already do.
  2. Bop1996 (talk) Per BMB. Also, it's not hard to find an article using the search bar at all, and the watchlist feature helps you keep tabs on important pages, so there's really no need for it.
  3. Mario4Ever (talk) Per both.
  4. Jazama (talk) This proposal is redundant to the watchlist and to the bookmarks that comes with all browsers.
  5. Raven Effect (talk) Per All
  6. Commander Code-8 (talk) This seems a bit pointless. Per all.
  7. Walkazo (talk) - Per BMB and Bop1996.
  8. M&SG (talk) - Per all.
  9. Lakituthequick (talk) Per Baby Mario Bloops and Bop1996
  10. Magikrazy51 (talk) Assuming everyone who visits the wiki has more than one finger and can use a keyboard easily, searching in the search bar isn't hard at all. It's so easy, 2 stalks of celery and a paper towel could do it. Per all.
  11. Skyward Yoshi (talk) We have a contents page on are articles. Per All.
  12. RandomYoshi (talk) - Per all.
  13. Hyper Yoshi (talk) It's simple enough to search.
  14. Akfamilyhome (talk) Per all. You can just bookmark it using your browser.
  15. Mariomario64 (talk) – Like others have been saying, this is kinda useless because we can either use the watchlist or bookmark it on our browsers. If we can do those things, I don't see the point in adding this.
  16. B.wilson (talk) Creating a JS (.js) file is required for a feature such as this. If creating the JS file wasn't too overly complicated, I would probably support this decision; however making this "bookmark" feature is way too complicated. You could possibly consider trying to make a .js file of your own. Re-propose once it's done so we could consider moving it to MW space. I'm sorry.
  17. ThirdMarioBro (talk) This additional feature would be unnecessary, especially since the watchlist already does this.
  18. Phoenix (talk) Per all.
  19. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per all.

Comments