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The navigation templates have a strange choice of colors. Some are hideous. The Mario Wiki could be more beautiful and organizated by changing game Navigation Templates by series (''Super Mario'' series in red and ''DK'' in brown, for example). It will make the Navigation Templates less confusing and easier to understand. See [[Mario]] page Navigation Templates: so messy.
The navigation templates have a strange choice of colors. Some are hideous. The Mario Wiki could be more beautiful and organizated by changing game Navigation Templates by series (''Super Mario'' series in red and ''DK'' in brown, for example). It will make the Navigation Templates less confusing and easier to understand. See [[Mario]] page Navigation Templates: so messy.


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'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultra Koopa}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultra Koopa}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 11, 2011,  23:59 GMT
'''Deadline''': December 11, 2011,  23:59 GMT
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I'm really wanting to complete this proposals. If I did something wrong, tell me, please. And I can do it in the right way. {{user|Ultra Koopa}}
I'm really wanting to complete this proposals. If I did something wrong, tell me, please. And I can do it in the right way. {{user|Ultra Koopa}}
:It's already been mentioned above. {{User|Bop1996}}
:It's already been mentioned above. {{User|Bop1996}}
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===Star images===
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Important, not important, it would make both more sense and more consistency. And if you still don't know what I'm talking about, just look to the right in the character box and scroll down to Stars to find it.
Important, not important, it would make both more sense and more consistency. And if you still don't know what I'm talking about, just look to the right in the character box and scroll down to Stars to find it.


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'''Proposer''': {{User|Baby Mario Bloops}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Baby Mario Bloops}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 19, 2011,  23:59 GMT
'''Deadline''': December 19, 2011,  23:59 GMT
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The problem here is that it completely italizes the title, while some articles only need some words to be italized (the '''[[Mario (series)|''Mario'' (series)]]''' and '''[[Donkey Kong (series)|''Donkey Kong'' (series)]]''' are good examples), so if the proposal passes, we might need to make a code that could italize certain words, that range from the whole title to a single word.
The problem here is that it completely italizes the title, while some articles only need some words to be italized (the '''[[Mario (series)|''Mario'' (series)]]''' and '''[[Donkey Kong (series)|''Donkey Kong'' (series)]]''' are good examples), so if the proposal passes, we might need to make a code that could italize certain words, that range from the whole title to a single word.


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'''Proposer''': {{User|Byllant}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Byllant}}<br>
'''Deadline''': December 20, 2011,  23:59 GMT
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Revision as of 20:34, December 27, 2011


Any proposal decided and passed is archived here. This page is protected to maintain the discussion as it was. Please add archived proposals to the bottom of the page.

MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive Template


Change Navigation Templates Colors

SUPPORT 9-6

The navigation templates have a strange choice of colors. Some are hideous. The Mario Wiki could be more beautiful and organizated by changing game Navigation Templates by series (Super Mario series in red and DK in brown, for example). It will make the Navigation Templates less confusing and easier to understand. See Mario page Navigation Templates: so messy.

Proposer: Ultra Koopa (talk)
Deadline: December 11, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Ultra Koopa (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. ThePremiumYoshi (talk) - Yeah, it's better to change the color of some Templates. While others are fine, there are some Templates with horrid color, like the Super Mario Kart Template which is... PINK! This color totally doesn't fit SMK. Per proposal.
  3. Magikrazy51 (talk) Per proposal. Pink would better suit the Super Princess Peach template, not the Nintendo DS Games template. That would be better as red or blue.
  4. New Super Yoshi (talk) Some of the Colors just don't work right. Per All.
  5. Bowser's luma (talk) Good idea - trading psychadellia for functionality.
  6. Jazama (talk) Per all
  7. RandomYoshi (talk) — Per Magikrazy51.
  8. Lakituthequick (talk) We need some cleanup, yes.
  9. Toad85 (talk) Seems legit.

Oppose

  1. Knife (talk) – I don't really disagree with the premise, but I feel your proposal isn't specific enough to actually do something. What I think you should do is make a draft page detailing navigation color scheme and put up a Writing Guideline proposal.
  2. Coincollector (talk) - Partly oppose, backing up Knife's comment. Also see my comment.
  3. Bop1996 (talk) Per Knife.
  4. Mario4Ever (talk) Per the three above me.
  5. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - I see no reason to change it, and changing it could result in more difficult time figuring out which template is which. Per all.
  6. SuperYoshiBros (talk) - Per Baby Mario Bloops.

Comments

Actually I think that some of the templates need a better color scheme. Change color scheme because they are colored in a "weird" manner and some whose colors don't allow to read clearly. Fine examples are the {{bee}}, {{MK7}}, {{Fuzzy}}, {{MP3}}, among a vast quantity of others that would make the list considerably long. On the other hand I agree with Knife that the templates require a better maintenace, following a firm writing guideline for the creation of templates. However this is a discussion that has long been even in our discussions in the boards. I suggest some of you to see my past proposal that overlaps with this topic. However, not all templates look so bad as to need a more proper color, like those used for the consoles - which they follow certain guideline to color the template according to the topic, although doesn't work for everything, and some of these really need a better color coding, for example, the Mario series-related templates and the Donkey Kong-related templates. Coincollector (talk)

@ Magikrazy51: The color of the DS' template was based in that japanese added some color-coding to their consoles: pink for the DS, light Bbue for the Wii, and red for the 3DS. Coincollector (talk)
@ Knife I already have a draft presentation showing some colors for the Templates.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ultra Koopa (talk).

You didn't link to it in your proposal, as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. Your first three days are up anyway so it's too late to implement a major change like that. As I said before, you should make a Writing Guideline (with a written policy to complement the template color examples). Even if this proposal passes, you won't really have the ability to do anything since it is so vague.--Knife (talk) 11:12, 8 December 2011 (EST)

I'm really wanting to complete this proposals. If I did something wrong, tell me, please. And I can do it in the right way. Ultra Koopa (talk)

It's already been mentioned above. Bop1996 (talk)

Star images

SUPPORT 18-0

Just a small thing, though it covers enough range to be a proposal. Look on the stars in the info boxes at Bob-omb Battlefield and Noki Bay and compare it to the ones at Gusty Garden Galaxy and Melty Monster Galaxy. The first uses star images from Super Mario Galaxy while the second one doesn't even have an star/shine images. The Galaxy ones are right, but not the ones before it.

Basically, I want to do is have the stars for each template in everyone world/boss match the game that they are in. Replace the SMG star sprites with SM64 Stars for Super Mario 64-related things; add a shine set for the Super Mario Sunshine areas/bosses.

Important, not important, it would make both more sense and more consistency. And if you still don't know what I'm talking about, just look to the right in the character box and scroll down to Stars to find it.

Proposer: Baby Mario Bloops (talk)
Deadline: December 19, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Per proposal.
  2. Tails777 (talk) That has been bothering me too. Stars aren't in Super Mario Sunshine, Shine Sprites are. Per proposal.
  3. M&SG (talk) - I will agree that this needs to be dealt with.
  4. RandomYoshi (talk) - Per all.
  5. Knife (talk) – I don't think you need a proposal to do this change, it seems like common sense. Per all.
  6. Walkazo (talk) - Per Baby Mario Bloops.
  7. Bop1996 (talk) I don't see any reason not to replace the inconsistent stars with the more consistent Shine Sprites or SM64 Power Stars. Per proposal.
  8. Mario4Ever (talk) Per all.
  9. Jazama (talk) Per all
  10. Marwikedor (talk) Per all. A proposal is not necessary, just do it.
  11. Lakituthequick (talk) Great idea, we had to do this earlier
  12. New Super Yoshi (talk) It just makes a lot more sence than using sprites from later games.
  13. Rise Up Above It (talk) Good idea. The inconsistency has been bugging me ever since I first noticed it.
  14. Raven Effect (talk) Per All
  15. Toad85 (talk) Per BMB.
  16. Nabber (talk) Per Tails777.
  17. Yoshi's Island (talk) Per proposal.
  18. Mr.C (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Comments

Italized titles

OPPOSE 1-11

Here with my 2nd proposal: You know, every time I read a game/film/comic article, I feel somewhat confused, in the sense I don't understand why the first word for an article is bolded and italized but the very top word isn't, yes, that's the article's title. Much like Wikipedia has been doing, we should have a template that italizes the title for games/films/comic in order to match how we are doing in the first word, and to recall that article is about of a work, play, etc. Perhaps we don't need the title to be bolded but only italized. I gather these code long ago that actually italizes titles:

<includeonly>{{DISPLAYTITLE:{{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{NAMESPACE}}:}}{{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{#ifexpr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|{{{1|}}})}} > 1|''{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|0|{{#expr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|(}} - 1}}}}''<span class="dim-brackets">{{#sub:{{PAGENAME}}|{{#expr:{{#rpos:{{PAGENAME}}|(}} - 1}}|0}}</span>|''{{PAGENAME}}''}}|''{{PAGENAME}}''}}}}

The problem here is that it completely italizes the title, while some articles only need some words to be italized (the Mario (series) and Donkey Kong (series) are good examples), so if the proposal passes, we might need to make a code that could italize certain words, that range from the whole title to a single word.

Proposer: Byllant (talk)
Deadline: December 20, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Create a new template

  1. Byllant (talk) - I kinda like the idea.

Don't create anything

  1. Bop1996 (talk) Per this.
  2. Raven Effect (talk) Per that
  3. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Bop1996.
  4. Tails777 (talk) Per all.
  5. Propeller Toad (talk) I agree with the rest (essentially per Bob1996). This feature is unneeded on this Wiki.
  6. M&SG (talk) - It's not really needed, since you only need to input two apostrophes to enable italics. No need to go more advanced than that.
  7. Jazama (talk) Per all.
  8. RandomYoshi (talk) – Per all.
  9. New Super Yoshi (talk) Per all.
  10. Toad85 (talk) Creating a template for just italicizing is an excuse for laziness. Per all who agree with me.
  11. ThePremiumYoshi (talk) - Yeah, it would be actually more complicate, when you can just use two apostrophes. Per M&SG.

Comments