Editing User talk:Thunder Sniper

== Categories ==

Hello, please read over our [[MarioWiki:Categories|categories policy page]]. Specifically, avoid adding redundant categories (broader categories that other, more specific categories already on the page are already categorised under, like [[:Category:Mammals]] when [[:Category:Rabbits]] is already there), and make sure you add new categories in the correct order: type categories first, sorted by importance (e.g. Category:Koopas, Category:Fish); then game categories, sorted alphabetically (e.g. Category:New Super Mario Bros. enemies, Category:Super Mario Bros. enemies). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:52, September 3, 2021 (EDT)

Also, please avoid adding categories that are only remotely related to the subject (for example, minigames and moves are not locations or objects and don't get categories like "Race courses" and "Stars"). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:52, September 3, 2021 (EDT)

{{reminder|2=improperly ordering categories and adding redundant and unnecessary categories}}
{{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:37, September 4, 2021 (EDT)

== Warning ==

{{warning|2=improperly ordering categories and adding redundant categories}}
{{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:57, September 9, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you for the warning. I have been thoroughly discouraged and will no longer make any attempt to meaningfully contribute to the Mario Wiki in any way, shape, or form.
{{User|Thunder Sniper}}

:This is not to stop you from editing entirely. You were reminded twice already for this yet you didn't follow it, so a warning was necessary. You just need to follow [[MarioWiki:Categories]] and order the categories properly and not add unnecessary ones as I've explained. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:18, September 9, 2021 (EDT)

{{lastwarn}}
Not to further discourage you, but you're still putting these categories under the game categories. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:54, September 10, 2021 (EDT)

I feel as if the more recent warnings I'm receiving are vague and nonconstructive. I will admit my faults, some of my earlier edits were more unstructured and downright incorrect, and I am working my hardest to restructure what actually qualifies as what. I am trying to regress to almost robotic decisions (Jungle=Jungles, Beach=Beaches, etc.), and I am still having trouble finding out just exactly what ''is'' and ''isn't'' what. But I sometimes find it difficult to find just what I did wrong when I get no specific incidents on what was incorrect (besides the first warning, of course). Could you inform me exactly what I did wrong and what was wrong about it, so that I can improve on my future categorization? Even just a couple of examples that reflect the problem with my editing would be appreciated. {{User:Thunder Sniper}}

I will also stop editing until further clarification, for your sake and mine. {{User:Thunder Sniper}}
:All you need to do is put the categories you add above any categories that have game titles in them, and have those sorted alphabetically. You should take a look at the corrections Mario jc made to your edits to see what I mean. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:55, September 10, 2021 (EDT)
:So, what you're saying is, for example, if a page says "list of (X) levels" or something along those lines, I should place any new categorization above those categories? Sorry if I'm taking up a lot of time, but I'm on my final warning here in which any form of editing is like walking in a minefield. {{User:Thunder Sniper}}
::Basically any general categories are placed above game-specific categories. So if you were trying to categorize, say, a grassland level in New Super Mario Bros. U, you would want to put Category:Grasslands above Category:New Super Mario Bros. U levels. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:01, September 10, 2021 (EDT)
:::I understand now. Thank you both for the clarification.
:::By the way, are the warnings permanent, or is there some way they can be removed? I'm obviously not going to just delete them, but I would like a way to redeem myself, in some sense. {{User:Thunder Sniper}}
::::I'm afraid warnings are permanent, but what you're doing now is just fine. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:34, September 10, 2021 (EDT)
::::Warnings are permanent, but as long as you take the necessary steps to learn from them and correct the problem, they shouldn't affect your standing in the community. Even some current staff members received warnings at some point before being promoted, if that tells you anything. And even with the Last Warning, you wouldn't be permanently blocked if you broke the rules again. Permanent blocks are only for users who commit the worst offenses or continue making the same mistakes over and over without showing any attempt to improve. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:37, September 10, 2021 (EDT)

Don't categorise challenges, minigames etc. with categories that are meant to be actual locations (like [[Chomp Alley]] with Category:Deserts - the category would go in [[Sherbet Desert]] and its levels). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:16, September 12, 2021 (EDT)
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 :This is not to stop you from editing entirely. You were reminded twice already for this yet you didn't follow it, so a warning was necessary. You just need to follow [[MarioWiki:Categories]] and order the categories properly and not add unnecessary ones as I've explained. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:18, September 9, 2021 (EDT)
-{{last warning}}
+{{lastwarn}}
 Not to further discourage you, but you're still putting these categories under the game categories. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:54, September 10, 2021 (EDT)
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 ::::Warnings are permanent, but as long as you take the necessary steps to learn from them and correct the problem, they shouldn't affect your standing in the community. Even some current staff members received warnings at some point before being promoted, if that tells you anything. And even with the Last Warning, you wouldn't be permanently blocked if you broke the rules again. Permanent blocks are only for users who commit the worst offenses or continue making the same mistakes over and over without showing any attempt to improve. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:37, September 10, 2021 (EDT)
-Don't categorise challenges, minigames etc. with categories that are meant to be for actual locations (like [[Chomp Alley]] with Category:Deserts - the category would go in [[Sherbet Desert]] and its levels). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:16, September 12, 2021 (EDT)
+Don't categorise challenges, minigames etc. with categories that are meant to be actual locations (like [[Chomp Alley]] with Category:Deserts - the category would go in [[Sherbet Desert]] and its levels). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:16, September 12, 2021 (EDT)
-: Got it. {{User|Thunder Sniper}}
-::You did this again with [[Three-Legged Lava Race]].
-::Also, don't use species categories for individual enemies. There was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/47#Do_Something_With_Game-Specific_Species_Categories|proposal]] that voted to only use them for non-hostile species. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:38, September 12, 2021 (EDT)
-:::Sorry. Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between what's a level and what's a mission. As for the species category, I didn't know that before, and I won't do it again. {{User:Thunder Sniper/sig}}