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== Some More Problems ==
I'll list out the problems.

*I thought we agreed on no boxart (or release dates for that matter). Makes loading times slower.
*The history section is redundant because obviously peaches grow on trees. Or any fruit for that matter. You might as well say on all [[fruit]] articles that they grow on trees. If an article is based off of something in real-life, '''only explain the features that are different about the generic item in the Marioverse'''. We could pretty much explain everything about [[Lava]] in the real world, that it melts things, that it is made from molten rocks, etc.. So a whole section explaining how Peaches grow is not good. The rest of the history section is better off being explained in the Appearances section. 
*What are alternate storylines? Does it have something to do with canonicity?
*Why do we need to put it in table form? Although it does look nicer, it is horribly inconsistent with the other articles.
*Why are there section for every single time peaches have been mentioned? Appearing physically in a game is worthy of its own sub-section, but just saying the phrase "Peachy" does not need its own sub-section. Probably belongs in a merged sub-section of the times it has been mentioned (also, what does saying Peachy have to do with the item Peach?)

Yes, the article will lose a lot of content if we apply these changes, but quality is always more important than quantity.{{User:Knife/sig}} 18:36, 6 February 2008 (EST)

== Proposal ==

Hello. I just want to tell you I '''totally agree''' with what you said on the proposals page for the Bob Hoskins quote. The first 2 sections should be merged. I merged them but Time Q removed it. I put it back though. I hope we win. [[Image:ToadetteMP8.png|35px]] [[User:Toadette 4evur|<span style="color:blue;">Toadette</span>]] [[User Talk:Toadette 4evur|<span style="color:green;"> 4evur!!</span>]] [[Image:MP7_Toadette.jpg|35px]] *Let's just hope Time Q reads your comment before doing more editing*

=='Mkay==
Thanks, that version made since! {{user:Crypt Raider/sig}}
:Your welcome (too). {{User:Crypt Raider/sig}}

== Re: Brawl Video ==

I was talking about the location though. {{user:Gissy/sig}}

==Heh Heh (Did I Just Laugh?)==

LOL, slingin' frenzy ahoy! I haven't played it in about a week and a half. I've got a '''''real''''' puppy (or rather my mom does...) and she's soooo much cuter than the lame, untouchable, mean, spiteful, funny-looking, I-won't-listen-to-your-commands, 64-bit aggravations called "Nintendogs". :P May they shrivel and die! Muahahahaha! {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Wanna be in my comic?}}

== Different Timelines ==

The thing about your ''SMS'' and ''LM'' example is that their conflicting portrayals of King Boo can easily be explained by saying after his failure in ''LM'' he became depressed (or something along those lines) and that's why he looks more like a drunkard in ''SMS'' than a King. Then perhaps his second defeat shook some sence into him and he got back on the right track, hense his cleaned up appearances in later games such as ''Double Dash!!'' But that's nitpicking. As you said we should give our readers the whole story so they can come up with these sorta theories on their own.

The perfectly understandable reason for why the games are always given supremacy is because ''Mario'' started out as a videogame; became famous as a videogame; and long after all those movies, shows and comics have come and gone, it's still a videogame. Most people have no idea it was also a show and a few movies; ''I'' haven't even seen those cartoons (if I had I'm sure I could point out more issues than just Peach and Koopas' appearances but sadly I don't have that option), just the live action movie (by chance). For clarity's sake, it's easier to split the games, movies, comics and shows up; but I too feel it's a bit unfair to stick all the non-game sources into one conglomerate of "Alternate Appearances". In the case of Mario & Luigi's Parents the shows and whatnot are significant enough to make up the bulk of the article, but this is the acception, and as such seems a bit of an abnomality.

What I'm trying to say is that you're right that we should list everything and try to give it the importance it deserves. That means the games, being the core of the ''Mario'' franchise get supremacy, but the other media should not be swept aside. We should give the readers as much information as they need and let them scrutinize it, whether they're cross-examining the shows with the games (as I've been doing), or putting the screws to the games (which I've also been doing, though in a less in-your-face style in this particluar discussion). - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]

== RE:Mario Kart Wii Artwork ==

I got them from IGN!

{{User:The Missing Link/sig|I can't wait for the game!}}

==Comic...Again==

Sounds cool. You tell me when you wanna sign up any time! Oh, and you can use this:

{{userbox|border=pink|mainbkgd=lightblue|codebkgd=blue|codecolor=pink|code=[[Image:Yoshikidblue.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user is friends with [[User:Stooben Rooben|'''Stooben Rooben''']]!}}
Code: <nowiki>{{userbox|border=pink|mainbkgd=lightblue|codebkgd=blue|codecolor=pink|code=[[Image:Yoshikidblue.JPG|50px]]|msg=This user is friends with [[User:Stooben Rooben|'''Stooben Rooben''']]!}}</nowiki>

{{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Because you're my friend!}}

== MKWii video ==

are u talking about the last video seen (the GDC 2008)? {{User:Coincollector/sig}} if it's so, i ve downloaded that video and i love it, I would love having that game NOW!

== Hello Mr. Patroller ==
Hello Stumpers. Have you noticed something? You're a patroller! :D I would like to congratulate you! Congrats! <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>

You are now a patroller! You are well-worthy of your new status. 

--[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:31, 2 March 2008 (EST)
:Awesome! You're a patroller! I'm very proud of you! <nowiki>*sniffs and says "they grow up so fast!"*</nowiki> {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Don't forget about the little people! <sub>Like me...!</sub>}}

Congrats!!!! P.S I supported your proposal. [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 19:05, 2 March 2008 (EST)


WHOA!  YAY!  WOHOO!  *does a happy dance*  HOW COOL!!!!  Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!!  ALL OF YOU!  And no, I'm not going to forget the little people...!  Thanks for the support, Princess, thanks for watching me grow up, Rooben, thanks for the kind words and support Blitzwing, and thank you Paper Jorge and DP for making me admit that I'd love to be one!!!  You all rock my sox off!  Even the people I didn't mention!  *hugs the entire Wiki, including all the Peachycakes* {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:13, 2 March 2008 (EST)

:Aww, that's so sweet Stumpy. *hugs back* <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:Arrgghh, Hug fest. *hug everyone anyway* --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 21:18, 2 March 2008 (EST)
::Oof!  I think one of the Peachycakes stole my wallet! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:19, 2 March 2008 (EST) (first time I had an edit conflict on my talk page...)
:::I'm glad you're happy! <nowiki>*gives a big bear hug*</nowiki> You deserve this position, and I know you'll use your powers for the best interest of the wiki! {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Peace out!}}
::I certainly hope so!  Thanks, Roob! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 22:03, 2 March 2008 (EST)

== http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Nuvola_apps_agent.png/32px-Nuvola_apps_agent.png ==

so a new patroller? excellent, I'm still watching some updates in MKwii {{User:Coincollector/sig}} I can't say congrats because other users have already said this one time and again ...

:Oh yeah :O ? I didn't heard that. Let's see when could be that day... {{User:Coincollector/sig}} on the other hand, next week, I'll be more time here contributing. there are tests waitin' for me at the university, and you know...

ORIGINAL MESSAGE MINORLY EDITED BY {{User:Stumpers/sig}} BECAUSE OF WIKI GLITCH.

== Hedgehog ==

In my opinion, it seems a bit too... Minor. Do we make an article on Hylian's because [[Link]], [[Zelda]], [[Young Link]], [[Toon Link]] are in the Smash Bros. series? (I THINK Zelda is Hylian, I haven't played The Legend of Zelda. Also, I dunno if there are other notable Hylian's in the series...) But, this seems like something you should ask the public. After all, one man's opinion doesn't seal the deal. :) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

Srsly. Wait, what was that about god's? MAN, I suck at Legend of Zelda. >.> Well, a crossover species page seems pretty good. Sounds awesome, actually! Why don't we find out what others have to say about this? :) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

OK, I'll make the Proposal... When I'm not lazy, that is. :) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

Srsly. I ''THINK'' it might have something to do with Coincollector's message header... {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

w00t, glitch averted. =P I think I'll make the Proposal now. =) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} HOORAY FOR BOREDOM! XD

DONE! I'm an idiot with Proposals, so, it really didn't come out that nicely. Oh well, we have profressional Proposers to fix that! XP {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} I brought up a little note about the other Smash Bros. species, such as [[Polar Bear]] and [[Octorok]], in case you want to debate about that... You like debates like that, don't you? :P

Debates are good! They solve problems. Its when they turn into flame wars, THEN its bad for you. :( {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

Perhaps. The Ice Climber and Zelda enemies from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' DID effect gameplay, so I guess they can stay as their own articles (but nothing's stopping us from adding a section on that list about them, and adding the <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> Template to it. ;)) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} HELP! We need to scope out more crossover species that aren't article-worthy! :O

Let's see, you've got '''Hedgehog''', '''Cat''', '''Echidna''', '''Fox''', '''Crocodile''', '''Chameleon''', '''Rabbit''', '''Bee'''... Most of the Final Fantasy characters are human, with the exception of '''Moogle''' and '''Cactuar'''. The Dragon Quest characters are the same - Mainly human, with some additional species added in. Pac-Man's species are called '''Pac'''?! I've been away from the series too long. o-O {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} w00t, on a roll!

==Howdy-Doo, Mr. Patroller-Guy!==

Heya, Stumpers! How are things going in Patroller World? I realized we haven't talked as friends in a while (but we have talked on proposals), so I thought I'd see how things were going. :) {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|*checks instruction book* Yep, they're called "Pac"s!}}
:Sadly, I haven't played ''Brawl'' yet. :( My parents won't let me, and they say they're too tired to join in anyway. Hopefully I'll play it this weekend. As for the [[Birdo (species)]] article, it seems just about perfect to me; I haven't found anything to change. ...But I did fill in an [[Mario Strikers (series)|empty link]]. I hope you like it. :) {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|Must...play...''Brawl''...GAR! XD}}
::Awesome! I was worried about it, 'cause I've never played any ''Strikers'' games, but it worked! It's nice that my parents play video games with me; it's one of our "bonding hours". Sorry yours don't. :( That stinks. And that's one awesome to-do list! I'll see what I can do to help! {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig|C-ya soon!}}

== R.O.B. ==

What kind of Sysop would I be if I lazed around and waited for other people to do the work instead of doing it myself? Its my job, dude! XP {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} Glad I was of assistance! And thanks for alerting me. :)

LOL! XD Patience, my pet. XP {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

== You've got mail ==

How is brawl with you? to me It's is Freakin awesome!!!{{User:Fg/sig}}

==Hey==
Hey Stumpers, I noticed something. In proposals and stuff, we're always on the same side. I have the same thing with InfectedShroom, but... it's pretty cool. Also, I was wondering, how old are you? You don't need to tell me. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 10:02, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
That's older then I expected. Are you in college? {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 18:11, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
:Just a hair away from it.  Entering next fall.  You? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 13:53, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
:: Me? Seventh grade. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 14:37, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
:Oh no, you voted against the Bad Jokes proposal, and I was going to vote for it. I don't want to ruin the record, so please '''convince me''' that the archive would be a bad idea. {{User:CrystalYoshi/sig}} 14:37, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

== Pats ==

Hey congrats on being the wiki's new patroller!!!{{User:Fg/sig}}

No Im not a sysop but I wish I was :( {{User:Fg/sig}}

== RE: Grandma ==
I've never played Super Mario RPG, so I really...woudln't know. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:She was simply called "Grandma Toadstool", nothing more. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 19:25, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
::That is in fact a question. I'd have to check. But it's likely. Super Mario RPG names all characters explicitely, dialogue boxes start with "MARIO: It's-a me..." or "TOAD: ..." when the character is named, thus it is also completely sure who is the character [[Toad]] in Super Mario RPG. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 21:23, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

==Idea==
Hey Stumps I think someone use the idea you left at the sandbox. Check out [[Mario]] 's page. P.S You speak spainsh! [[User:Princess Grapes Butterfly|Princess Grapes Butterfly]] 17:11, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

== ??? ==

[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive#Use_of_the_Term_.22Clone.22|"Trogga: I'd hope you'd go more in-depth about what was the same and what was different regardless."]]

What do you mean? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:01, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

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