Editing User talk:Lastro

{{DISPLAYTITLE:1JUST1's user talk page}}
== Images ==

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Additionally, you should avoid punctuation in the images, aside from the extension.

Also, I don't think we consider Warp Cannon and ! Pipe as items, so they shouldn't use the item infobox. We don't have one for [[Warp Pipe]], so I'm going off of that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:52, June 15, 2020 (EDT)
:When you upload images, type <pre>[[Category:X Images]]</pre>. Replace X with the name of the game. {{User:Wynn Liaw/sig}} 10:23, December 29, 2020 (EST)
::I always do this normally. For which image did I miss that step? [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 10:26, December 29, 2020 (EST)
:::You made a mistake on the car models. You typed "<nowiki>{{Category:X Images}}</nowiki>" instead of "<nowiki>[[Category:X Images]]</nowiki>" {{User:Wynn Liaw/sig}} 10:30, December 29, 2020 (EST)
::::Oh oh, I see. By the way, do you know how to make a side by side comparison with 2 images? I am trying to make that right now but I cannot figure how to do so. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 10:34, December 29, 2020 (EST)
:::::Do you want something like this? {{User:Wynn Liaw/sig}} 10:52, December 29, 2020 (EST)
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Yes! It is what I wanted, but I figured out how to do so. I just searched through the wiki for a page that had one and changed it to fit. Obviously, it was quick considering that the [[Mario]] page has one. But thanks for the help! [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 10:55, December 29, 2020 (EST)

==Conversation with [[User:Alex95|Alex95]]==

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your message! About the Cannon Pipe and the ! Pipe, I had check the ? Panel status and it was actually classified as an item, so I decided to do the same with them. Also, how can I have an user page, as I don't have any at this moment. And finally, I've remove the background on a picture of [[Mega Sledge Bro]] but I didn't do well with the hammer as it's quite difficult at this part. So go see the result and feel free to delete it or to make it better! Oh, I almost forgot; I'm new to this website so that's why I'm not familiarize with it. Now, I'm focusing on French translation and making pages better! Lastly, I'm french so that's why they might be some grammatical or syntactic errors. Have a nice evening (it's 9:45 PM for me)

Sincerely,

Justin
:The ? Panel is classified as an item? That's odd, the player can't use it as one. May have to go over that later...
:Welcome to the site, though! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:22, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Thanks. Oh, also, how do you replace your sign with an image. I have one but I don't know how to replace it.
And for my user page, I think you need to activate it. But anyways, I love editing on this website!
:You will be able to create your userpage once you are [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]], which happens automatically after you have had your account for seven days and have made ten edits. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:31, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Oh nice. I'm now changing and reviewing all my uploaded files! So, do you know how to change the sign to an image? (I'm sorry if I'm a little insistent, but I love being edited and tidy)
:You mean change a link? You replace the name that's there with the new file name, if you think your file is a better version. There's several other steps involved, though, so what are you trying to do? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:39, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

I misspoke. In fact, I'd like to know how you changed your signature because now it's an image of your name in a Mario font. Also, while I was reviewing my files, I had another question: can you change the name of a file's page (example: change "File:NSMBWSledgeBroModel" to "File:NSMBW Sledge Bro Model")? If so, how? And I almost forgot, thank you very much, I mean, thank you a thousand times for your help.
:Ah, user templates. Once you can make your userpage, you can also make a signature page that you can use instead of just basic font. Mine is at [[User:Alex95/sig]], for example. You can learn more userspace stuff at [[MarioWiki:Userspace]].
:To move a file (or any page, for that matter), there will be a "move" tab at the top of the page once you are autoconfirmed. After moving the page, you should fix any links that lead to the original image and mark the original file name for deletion (done by putting {{tem|delete}} on the redirect).
:You're welcome, no problem ^^ {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:49, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Ok, I understand. But I'm not sure if I have understood the second part. Actually, I would just like to know how to rename a page (because I saw that "File:NSMB2!Pipe" became "File:NSMB2 Exclamation Pipe").
:As I said, you have to use the "move" tab and it will let you rename the file. It should not be available to you yet. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:02, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Also, you should sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). This will automatically create your user links and timestamp. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:20, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Okey-dokey! I have a question: is that you who decided to delete the yellow ! switch? I understand you but there was actually the same picture but with a bg before and it wasn't mean to be deleted [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 18:23, June 15, 2020 (EDT)
:It got switched back because artwork has a priority. Looking at both the cropped screenshot and the extracted sprite, we should just use the screenshot, as the crop looks pretty rough around the edges. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:29, June 15, 2020 (EDT)

Oh... But I can redo the crop, though.
:Ehh, the screenshot's fine as it is. A crop isn't necessary. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:38, June 15, 2020 (EDT)
Oh, I've finished one... [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 18:41, June 15, 2020 (EDT)
In fact, I prefer non-background images... Look:https://www.mariowiki.com/File:NSMBW_Yellow_!_Switch.png
:...Why did you reupload it after I already deleted it and said it wasn't necessary? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:48, June 15, 2020 (EDT)
As it was written "Poor crop" so I wanted to improve it, I though this was the issue. And sorry for not answering you directly, it was nearly 1 AM so I went sleeping. {{unsigned|1JUST1}}

Please don't upload cropped versions of existing images with poor transparency. Converting jpgs to png in particular for the sake of cropping and adding transparency is prohibited. Read [[MarioWiki:Image use policy]] before making further uploads.

And please remember to sign every comment you make, even on your own talk page. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:01, June 16, 2020 (EDT)

Ok, sorry...[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 06:12, June 16, 2020 (EDT)

Hi Alex. I wonder if you could move the page [[Skull switch]] to [[Skull Switch]]. I know it's a small change, but it's written like that, and basically everything has caps on their names. Check out [[Switch|this]] if you don't believe me (I replaced added the Skull '''S'''witch on this page). Thanks! [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 18:07, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
:Our source shows it in lowercase, so unless you can prove otherwise, there's no reason to move it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:33, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
Go [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|here]] and you will see of what I'm talking about. Also, could I have a screenshot as I don't have the guide, please? Thanks!
:[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/623654490587004969/723306166708469870/20200618_154012.jpg Image proof.] {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:41, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
Ok, I see this is right. But wait, did you go [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|there]]? They are my proofs but I have one more : the writter just didn't know : he has written "long jump" while you have written it "Long Jump".[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 18:48, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
:Yes, I saw the conversation on Doc's page. She has the same points I do. And while "Long Jump" is used more consistently, in this case, the writer is referring to a jump that is long, not necessarily the usual Long Jump. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:50, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
Oh, so I think it will stay as it is... but it feels so weird for me...
:Every now and then we get names that don't sound proper because they are being used as a general description rather than a noun. But it's not up to us to correct, as we could end up being wrong and it would be inaccurate, so we use whatever the source provides. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:55, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
In my opinion, this switch just is unnamed, and the author described it as a skull switch. It's like the final [[! Switch]] from NSMBW, I called it the large ! Switch  on the wiki as it's basically that, but it's not officially named like that
:Yes, exactly. The switch is unnamed, but we are given a description that works as a title, so we use that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:02, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
Bruh, right now I wanna ask Nintendo how is this thing called...

Don't convert [[:File:Red Coin SM3DW Prima.jpg|jpgs]] to [[MarioWiki:Image use policy|pngs and apply transparency]]. You were just reminded about this. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:46, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

== Archives ==

The proposals have been archived. Therefore, they're closed and no longer open to voting and comments. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:11, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
:Oh, but I'm gonna do another proposal as I don't think Toad themed pages are well organized. Thanks for the info btw! --[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 04:19, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
::I have to be [[autoconfirmed]]... --[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 04:20, June 19, 2020 (EDT)

You cannot remove or edit old comments, even if they're yours. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:12, December 29, 2020 (EST)
:Ok, but why though? I am not trying to change my statements at all. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 08:20, December 29, 2020 (EST)

==Re: Question about a new page: secret passages==
Hi, so, right out of the gate, I just wanted to check whether you were familiar with the situation with the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia- basically, it takes an awful lot of stuff from the wiki, including unofficial names, as well as making a number of other stupid mistakes, so it's not necessarily the best thing to take a look at at the major guide- there was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|big proposal]] not long after the translation to prevent citing it for names, and you can see the sort of mistakes we're looking at from our [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia|article]]. I think I know what you're talking about (I can't say I've ever heard the term "layer 0" used before though, so I might be thinking of the wrong thing), though personally I'd lean towards not creating it- it's relatively common feature in platformer games so it's not necessarily something ''Mario''-specific, and as it doesn't really affect gameplay in a significant way, I don't think it really needs to be mentioned- if I've got the right thing, it's pretty much just an area hidden by a wall. I'm not sure though, so it might be worth bringing it up on an appropriate mainspace talk page, and see if anyone can help you there? Pretty much everyone on this wiki should be trustworthy, so you shouldn't always need to go to an administrator to check- you can always bring it up on a talk page, or the Boards or Discord if you're there, and usually you'll find someone who can help you. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:40, December 28, 2020 (EST)
:Thanks for the information. To be sure about the subject, did you take a look at the [[World 1-1 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)]] article? It mentions it, the secret area reached when you stay on the [[Warp Pipe]] of the [[Rolling Hills]]. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 17:43, December 28, 2020 (EST)
::Yes, I did take a look, but things can be a bit hard to identify when there's not necessarily a concrete name for them. And I didn't want to say that an article shouldn't be created just because I'm getting mixed up. I didn't get the encyclopedia (due to plagiarism mentioned above), so I can't check what it says in there either. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:47, December 28, 2020 (EST)
:::Moreover, I got the encylopedia in French. This means that there is an additionnal layer of translation if it was translated from the english version, but it implies that it has been translated directly from the japanese version. Something funny is that the mistake with the [[? Box]] picture being the [[Propeller Box]] was actually chnaged and corrected. Anyways, I do not know. It is mention as ''Passage secret'' in my book, which translates into Secret passage (they just swaped two words?). [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 17:54, December 28, 2020 (EST)
::::According to [[MarioWiki:Naming#Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia|this]], only the English version is in range of SMBE block, the other languages (probably including French too) are fine, but if I were you, I would still proceed with caution. [[User:Superbound|Superbound]] ([[User talk:Superbound|talk]]) 02:49, December 29, 2020 (EST)

== Navigation templates/categories ==

Nice work on the articles. In the future, keep in mind that new articles should also have a navigation template and category at the bottom of the page (see [[MarioWiki:Navigation templates]] and [[MarioWiki:Categories]]). In the case of your recent articles, the article should have:

<pre>
{{MKAGPDX}}
[[Category:Mario Kart Arcade GP DX Items]]
</pre>

Remember you can always look at other similar articles to see which are the correct navtemplates and categories to use. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:40, January 3, 2021 (EST)
:To reiterate the above point, you're still forgetting to include these on your new articles, so you should try to remember to add these in future. I think it might also be worth taking some time to read over the [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], as there are a number of things in there that you seem to be missing out- at the moment, other users are having to go back and fix various things in the articles for you, so it'd be worth just going through the edit history and seeing what people are changing to pick up on some of what you're missing. Make sure that you're making use of the show preview button as well- it's worth taking a quick look over the article before saving it, as there have been some small errors in there that you'd probably spot if you have a quick read through it all before saving. Just a tip for the future, if you come across another article that has a game [[MarioWiki:Naming#Shared titles|identifier]], you should add [[Template:Italic title]] to italicise it at the top of the page (For example <nowiki>{{italic title|Magnet (''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'')}}</nowiki> makes the title at the top of the page appear as Magnet (''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'').). And there's no need to keep adding in your edit summaries to bring it up on the discussion page if you don't think the article needs to be created- if you're picking it up off a template or it has lots of valid red links, creating it won't be an issue. You're creating some missing articles and adding missing information at the moment, which is always good. :) [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 06:19, January 5, 2021 (EST)
Hi! Recently, I have been trying to fill in the database regarding [[Mario Kart Arcade GP DX#Items|Mario Kart Arcade GP DX items]]. When I got the email noticing me that someone messaged me I rapidely knew that it was about templates beacause I remembered that I forgot to put them. I went through the [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], and I think that my next article will be better. By the way, do you think talking about The Legend Of The Colored Yoshis is something useful (see the ''[[Super Mario World]]'' instruction booklet)? Thanks for every advice! [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 13:21, January 5, 2021 (EST)

{{reminder|2=forgetting navigation templates / categories}}
You still forgot this for [[World 3 (Super Mario Bros. Special)]] even after you were just reminded again about it. Again, look at other articles if you're not sure which ones to add (like [[World 2 (Super Mario Bros. Special)]], which uses the same navigation template and category required). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:18, January 6, 2021 (EST)

Also, regarding [[:File:SMBS World 3-2.png]]: ''"Did not wanted to rename."''

You ''should'' move the page if there's a mistake in the file name, after that you just need to mark the old file name for deletion. Don't upload the same image again to solve the mistake as this unnecessarily takes up space on the wiki server. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:22, January 6, 2021 (EST)

:Hi there! Regarding the templates, I am sorry. I was tired and did not think about them. Concerning the image, it was dumb. I just did not wanted to rename it for some odd reasons. {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 05:22, January 7, 2021 (EST)

== Your personal image ==

You should use your personal image on your userpage or else it will be deleted. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 18:16, January 5, 2021 (EST)
:Ok, I will use my Mii! Thank you for the info. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 18:19, January 5, 2021 (EST)

Make sure you specify your name when tagging a personal image: <code><nowiki>{{personal-image|1JUST1}}</nowiki></code> {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:36, January 6, 2021 (EST)

:OK, no problem. Sorry, I did not know about that before! {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 05:16, January 7, 2021 (EST)

== Item infobox descriptions ==

I know you voted against it, but the proposal regarding descriptions in item infoboxes is very likely to decide not to have physical descriptions in them (after a suggestion I made, there was an option added to use the parameter solely for in-game descriptions for uncommon items). So there's probably no point putting these descriptions for any more item infoboxes you make. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}

Ok. I voted against it because it does include non-physical apsects such as their function that was explained briefly. Removind the physical description is not any problem. {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 16:29, January 7, 2021 (EST)

== RE: Converting jpgs to pngs ==

Those were not taken from jpgs. The Yoshi one was originally, but has since been replaced with a crop from a [https://videogameartarchive.com/post/626718233698893824/the-light-blue-yoshi-from-yoshis-story-on-the png scan], and while it would be preferable to have just kept the background, the others are acceptable because pixel-accurate cropping was easy for those. And keep in mind that something that went against a current rule might have been done before the rule was established and it was overlooked; if not, well, there's no point warning someone about it now - what was done was done, and they probably know now. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:24, January 11, 2021 (EST)

Turns out the Yoshi one was actually jpg but the image URL specifies it being a png, so I wouldn't fault the user for that. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:04, January 11, 2021 (EST)

== RE: File deleted + adding pages for non-released games ==

Alright. It might be better to create a [[User:1JUST1/sandbox|personal sandbox]] and keep your work there.

And what Bowser's Fury article is this? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:12, January 13, 2021 (EST)

:I don't think there is enough information for those to give them an article just yet. We've only seen their appearance but not their function. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:31, January 13, 2021 (EST)

==Subjective information and unofficial terms==
When writing articles, try to make sure that you're not including subjective information or language, like whether things are "fair" or "logical" like you did on the [[White Cat Mario]] article- that whole second article wasn't really necessary, as it was pretty much only justifying the form's appearance. Additionally, when you're writing articles, make sure you're using official terms for items and such- the correct term is "Super Bell", not "Cat Bell", so even if the links are coming up blue, they might be leading to a redirect, so it's worth searching the term or following a link as well to check that you're using the right one. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 12:36, January 13, 2021 (EST)
:Yeah, I was debating on wheter or not including the second part. For the Super Bell, it is a mistake. I do not know why, but I keep calling it "Cat Bell". I make sure to use official names for things, but this is just a common mistake I do. {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 12:40, January 13, 2021 (EST)
::In general, please avoid padding on articles for the sake of extending the article length. If the only known information is small but still enough for an article, then keep it that way, but don't fill it with [[Special:Diff/3103768|unnecessary and unrelated fluff]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:58, January 14, 2021 (EST)

== White Cat Mario ==

Just curious, is there a source of the name "White Cat Mario"? If not, the page should be marked with <nowiki>{{conjecture}}</nowiki> {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
:Yep, there is a source. It is the overview trailer that dropped today. Watch until the end! {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 14:15, January 13, 2021 (EST)
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 The proposals have been archived. Therefore, they're closed and no longer open to voting and comments. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:11, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
 :Oh, but I'm gonna do another proposal as I don't think Toad themed pages are well organized. Thanks for the info btw! --[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 04:19, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
-::I have to be autoconfirmed... --[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 04:20, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
+::I have to be [[autoconfirmed]]... --[[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 04:20, June 19, 2020 (EDT)
 You cannot remove or edit old comments, even if they're yours. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:12, December 29, 2020 (EST)
 :Ok, but why though? I am not trying to change my statements at all. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 08:20, December 29, 2020 (EST)
-Doesn't matter if you're just capitalising or changing the format of certain words, [[MarioWiki:Courtesy#Censor|you're still editing comments]]. Stop doing this after they've been reverted multiple times. The only time you can do so is to fix broken coding, otherwise just leave them alone. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:49, February 28, 2021 (EST)
-:This is absolutely ridiculous. How fixing typos is a warnable offense is beyond me. Like, it makes the content more readable... {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 05:53, March 1, 2021 (EST)
-::Because you're correcting other users' comments for them, which is rude. Whatever typos happened, happened, and should be left alone. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:27, March 1, 2021 (EST)
 ==Re: Question about a new page: secret passages==
-Hi, so, right out of the gate, I just wanted to check whether you were familiar with the situation with the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia- basically, it takes an awful lot of stuff from the wiki, including unofficial names, as well as making a number of other stupid mistakes, so it's not necessarily the best thing to take a look at at the major guide- there was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|big proposal]] not long after the translation to prevent citing it for names, and you can see the sort of mistakes we're looking at from our [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia|article]]. I think I know what you're talking about (I can't say I've ever heard the term "layer 0" used before though, so I might be thinking of the wrong thing), though personally I'd lean towards not creating it- it's relatively common feature in platformer games so it's not necessarily something ''Mario''-specific, and as it doesn't really affect gameplay in a significant way, I don't think it really needs to be mentioned- if I've got the right thing, it's pretty much just an area hidden by a wall. I'm not sure though, so it might be worth bringing it up on an appropriate mainspace talk page, and see if anyone can help you there? Pretty much everyone on this wiki should be trustworthy, so you shouldn't always need to go to an administrator to check- you can always bring it up on a talk page, or the Boards or Discord if you're there, and usually you'll find someone who can help you. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:40, December 28, 2020 (EST)
+Hi, so, right out of the gate, I just wanted to check whether you were familiar with the situation with the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia- basically, it takes an awful lot of stuff from the wiki, including unofficial names, as well as making a number of other stupid mistakes, so it's not necessarily the best thing to take a look at at the major guide- there was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|big proposal]] not long after the translation to prevent citing it for names, and you can see the sort of mistakes we're looking at from our [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia|article]]. I think I know what you're talking about (I can't say I've ever heard the term "layer 0" used before though, so I might be thinking of the wrong thing), though personally I'd lean towards not creating it- it's relatively common feature in platformer games so it's not necessarily something ''Mario''-specific, and as it doesn't really affect gameplay in a significant way, I don't think it really needs to be mentioned- if I've got the right thing, it's pretty much just an area hidden by a wall. I'm not sure though, so it might be worth bringing it up on an appropriate mainspace talk page, and see if anyone can help you there? Pretty much everyone on this wiki should be trustworthy, so you shouldn't always need to go to an administrator to check- you can always bring it up on a talk page, or the Boards or Discord if you're there, and usually you'll find someone who can help you. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:40, December 28, 2020 (EST)
 :Thanks for the information. To be sure about the subject, did you take a look at the [[World 1-1 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)]] article? It mentions it, the secret area reached when you stay on the [[Warp Pipe]] of the [[Rolling Hills]]. [[User:1JUST1|1JUST1]] ([[User talk:1JUST1|talk]]) 17:43, December 28, 2020 (EST)
 ::Yes, I did take a look, but things can be a bit hard to identify when there's not necessarily a concrete name for them. And I didn't want to say that an article shouldn't be created just because I'm getting mixed up. I didn't get the encyclopedia (due to plagiarism mentioned above), so I can't check what it says in there either. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:47, December 28, 2020 (EST)
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 When writing articles, try to make sure that you're not including subjective information or language, like whether things are "fair" or "logical" like you did on the [[White Cat Mario]] article- that whole second article wasn't really necessary, as it was pretty much only justifying the form's appearance. Additionally, when you're writing articles, make sure you're using official terms for items and such- the correct term is "Super Bell", not "Cat Bell", so even if the links are coming up blue, they might be leading to a redirect, so it's worth searching the term or following a link as well to check that you're using the right one. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 12:36, January 13, 2021 (EST)
 :Yeah, I was debating on wheter or not including the second part. For the Super Bell, it is a mistake. I do not know why, but I keep calling it "Cat Bell". I make sure to use official names for things, but this is just a common mistake I do. {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 12:40, January 13, 2021 (EST)
-::In general, please avoid padding on articles for the sake of extending the article length. It's fine if the only known information is small but still enough for an article, but don't fill it with [[Special:Diff/3103768|unnecessary and unrelated fluff]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:58, January 14, 2021 (EST)
+::In general, please avoid padding on articles for the sake of extending the article length. If the only known information is small but still enough for an article, then keep it that way, but don't fill it with [[Special:Diff/3103768|unnecessary and unrelated fluff]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:58, January 14, 2021 (EST)
-Also, remember to add the following above the navigation templates and categories when you're adding references:
-<pre>
-==References==
-<references/>
-</pre>
-{{User:Mario jc/sig}} 06:01, January 14, 2021 (EST)
-:One last thing, the proposal regarding item infobox descriptions is now over, so please don't put any physical descriptions when creating any more. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
-::Ok, no problem! {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 12:50, January 14, 2021 (EST)
 == White Cat Mario ==
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 Just curious, is there a source of the name "White Cat Mario"? If not, the page should be marked with <nowiki>{{conjecture}}</nowiki> {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
 :Yep, there is a source. It is the overview trailer that dropped today. Watch until the end! {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 14:15, January 13, 2021 (EST)
-== Telling Vandals to stop vandalising ==
-For future reference, there is absoloutely no point trying to tell a vandal to stop since they will not just heed the message like that. The correct precaution is to put a report on [[MarioWiki:Staff noticeboard]] and wait until an admin blocks that user. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
-:Sorry, did not know that this page existed. {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 09:37, January 21, 2021 (EST)
-::Also, IPs can't be permanently blocked. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 14:11, January 21, 2021 (EST)
-:::Oh ok. Why though? {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 14:18, January 21, 2021 (EST)
-::::Because IP addressees change over time (mine for example changed multiple times last year), sometimes even without original offender's input. This may cause actual good faith IPs unable to make edits or accidentally block already registered users (happened to be as well), which we don't want. [[User:Superbound|Superbound]] ([[User talk:Superbound|talk]]) 14:56, January 21, 2021 (EST)
-:::::Ok. However, how you could block a registered user if you just block an ID from someone who is not logged in? Does the user needs to retrieve the aforesaid banned ID? {{User:1JUST1/sig}} 16:15, January 21, 2021 (EST)
-== RE: Weird user blocking ==
-That IP was Hamshamcart, their account is blocked indefinitely and since then they have ban evaded multiple times. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:01, February 28, 2021 (EST)
-== Screenshots and renders ==
-Both screenshots and renders have a place on this wiki, so in the case of the Fire Piranha image, it's best to upload as a separate file. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:18, September 22, 2021 (EDT)
-:Yes, though the screenshot was not in a very good quality and it was used in every page as the primary image, due to the lack of sprite. I so suggest to re-upload it with a different filename. Also remember to sign! {{User:Lastro/sig}} 18:23, September 22, 2021 (EDT)
-== About this [[:File:Kibidango2.png|image]] ==
-I'm not sure what you mean by "Wrong colors". Film restoration primarily deals with dirt and scratch removals, plus the correction of colors based on the visual references and cel photos of the original cut. {{User:PanchamBro/sig}} 18:43, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
-== Cut-and-paste move ==
-Hey, whenever there's an obstructing redirect in the way of an upcoming page move, please don't [[Special:Diff/4030948|perform what is known as]] [[Special:Diff/4030934|a cut-and-paste move]]. That type of move is undesirable because it splits page histories. Instead, tag the obstructing redirect with <code>{{tem|delete}}</code> and wait for an admin to delete the page. Thanks! {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 20:45, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
-:OK thanks for the message! I didn't know how to handle this but now should this situation happen again I'll know what to do. {{User:Lastro/sig}} 20:55, October 29, 2023 (EDT)