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[2011-07-11 21:41:22] &lt;SMB&gt; But anyway, let&#x27;s start. There are certain rules:<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:42:57] &lt;SMB&gt; 1.) The chat will be muted. Those who have questions will query the moderator (me) to be voiced, and I will voice those in order that have questions.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:43:11] &lt;tb&gt; spam and you cant see it<br />
[2011-07-11 21:43:19] &lt;tb&gt; no jk people<br />
[2011-07-11 21:43:35] &lt;SMB&gt; 2.) You can direct your question to Plumber, me, or both candidates.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:44:22] &lt;SMB&gt; 3.) If the question is directed at both, then both candidates can directly answer, as well as make rebuttals once one candidate is done answering.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:44:58] &lt;SMB&gt; (In example, if Plumber answers, I can make a rebuttal against his points after. After that, I can answer and Plumber can make rebuttals to my points. We then move on to the next question).<br />
[2011-07-11 21:45:32] &lt;SMB&gt; The order of answering a question directed at both candidates will be determined between Plumber and me.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:45:43] &lt;SMB&gt; Now we begin.<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:45:58] &lt;SMB&gt; ...<br />
[2011-07-11 21:46:04] &lt;SMB&gt; `op Plumber|Debate<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:46:09] &lt;SMB&gt; `voice Glowsquid<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:46:38] &lt;SMB&gt; Glowsquid is up with his question: &quot;Plumber, how do you plan on reforming the polls, exactly?&quot;<br />
[2011-07-11 21:46:50] &lt;SMB&gt; Plumber, there is no set time for you to answer the question.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:47:28] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Well for one thing<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:47:42] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; D:&lt;<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:48:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; D:&lt;<br />
[2011-07-11 21:48:08] &lt;SMB&gt; `topic The debate is Undereway. Winning!<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:48:11] &lt;SMB&gt; :P<br />
[2011-07-11 21:48:12] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; :)<br />
[2011-07-11 21:48:44] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; ` topic The debate is underway. Winning!<br />
[2011-07-11 21:48:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; o:<br />
[2011-07-11 21:48:53] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Anyways,<br />
[2011-07-11 21:49:45] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I think there should be more than one poll<br />
[2011-07-11 21:50:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Recently on Fantendo I added the scrolling feature so people could scroll down from a poll.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:50:23] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Also, I think polls should be conducted to decide what kind of polls people want :P<br />
[2011-07-11 21:50:50] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; For example, there should be general categories people would most interested in polling: &quot;Recent News, Games, Characters, Wiki Stuff, etc.&quot;<br />
[2011-07-11 21:51:21] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; The more popular categories can get multiple polls near the top<br />
[2011-07-11 21:51:29] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; *multiple poll questions<br />
[2011-07-11 21:51:40] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; And the more unpopular ones most likely get less<br />
[2011-07-11 21:51:49] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; That&#x27;s a good start I think.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:51:57] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Oh, and <br />
[2011-07-11 21:52:26] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I think anyone should be able to suggest a poll question <br />
[2011-07-11 21:52:47] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Not on the forum, but on a talk page or something.<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:53:29] &lt;Glowsquid&gt; will the Poll comitee still exist then<br />
[2011-07-11 21:53:42] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright Glowsquid, do you have any follow-up questions for Plumber (based on the points he stated)? If not, I- oh okay. :P<br />
[2011-07-11 21:53:44] &lt;Glowsquid&gt; as some sort of filter for suggestions or w/e<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:55:28] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Yes<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:56:06] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; But it might take on a slightly different role than now.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:56:42] &lt;SMB&gt; Glowsquid, if you have any follow-up questions, go ahead. If not, I have some rebuttal points.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:57:14] &lt;Glowsquid&gt; nah. gtg soon anyway.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:57:39] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright. In that case, here we go:<br />
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[2011-07-11 21:59:21] &lt;SMB&gt; Firstly, you suggested that we should have multiple polls. But does it prove to be effective? How would we archive multiple polls without making the archives look... awful (for lack of a better word)? I think taking it one every two weeks has worked perfectly and there is honestly no need to change it.<br />
[2011-07-11 21:59:29] &lt;SMB&gt; Also,<br />
[2011-07-11 22:00:37] &lt;SMB&gt; It seems kind of redundant to have polls asking users which polls they want to see, especially if you suggest allowing users to suggest poll ideas on the talk page.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:00:55] &lt;SMB&gt; What would this accomplish besides making the process more complex?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:01:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Oh, the polls asking users what polls they want will be separated from the rest. Those will be on the forum.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:02:28] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; And they&#x27;re very general. For example: Would you prefer a poll about? &quot;Mario; Wario; e3; Wii; News; MarioWiki; Users; Etc.&quot;<br />
[2011-07-11 22:02:51] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; And the new polls would be archived by category, like the &#x27;Shroom does it, but more refined.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:03:15] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; One archive is just for &quot;Mario&quot; polls, one for &quot;MarioWiki&quot; polls, etc.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:03:36] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; MarioWiki polls in particular can provide valuable feedback on changes and such.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:03:42] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; *new change<br />
[2011-07-11 22:03:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; **new changes D:&lt;<br />
[2011-07-11 22:04:31] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I think the polls should be updated once every two weeks, too.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:06:05] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright, I understand your point on running that separate poll on the forum and how you would archive the polls.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:06:36] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Good.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:06:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; :)<br />
[2011-07-11 22:07:07] &lt;SMB&gt; I must move on to our next question, posed by Ralphfan to you, Plumber:<br />
[2011-07-11 22:07:23] &lt;SMB&gt; &quot;If elected, would you continue featuring awards polls as SMB did this year?&quot;<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:11:17] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Yep. They&#x27;re a good idea. <br />
[2011-07-11 22:11:36] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; If a majority of the people don&#x27;t like them though, then they can always have that be put to a poll.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:12:27] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright, now we&#x27;re moving on to Goomba&#x27;s Shoe 15, who has a question he&#x27;d like to pose for Plumber.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:13:06] &lt;Goombas_Shoe_15&gt; plumber my question is how does your new system differ from the old poll selection commite <br />
[2011-07-11 22:13:22] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; My new system is more democratic. It puts more power into the people themselves.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:14:20] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; The people will be able to submit any poll question they want on a talk page.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:14:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Members of the committee will choose from those questions, and add their own too.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:14:52] &lt;Goombas_Shoe_15&gt; but the old system revolved around people suggesting a poll and than other people voted for it how can your system be more democratic than that<br />
[2011-07-11 22:15:11] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; ^<br />
[2011-07-11 22:15:18] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; That good for ya?<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:16:18] &lt;SMB&gt; Guess so.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:16:38] &lt;SMB&gt; If anybody has questions, go ahead and query me so that they can be posed!<br />
[2011-07-11 22:16:45] &lt;SMB&gt; I myself have a question for Plumber.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:18:17] &lt;SMB&gt; I would just like to ask you to expound upon your experience in this, please. I understand you have indicated that you have experience on Fantendo with polling software. However, what exactly do you do with those polls?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:18:34] &lt;SMB&gt; How often do you update the polls over there? How long have you been maintaining the polls? Etc.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:21:28] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; They&#x27;re updated weekly<br />
[2011-07-11 22:21:32] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Usually just two a week.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:23:08] &lt;SMB&gt; You didn&#x27;t answer this, though:<br />
[2011-07-11 22:24:10] &lt;SMB&gt; How long have you been maintaining the polls on Fantendo? I&#x27;m semi-active in the Fantendo community myself, so I&#x27;ve seen the polls rotate. However, I really only drop in sporatically to check things and don&#x27;t know much of the background behind its processes.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:24:59] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Oops didn&#x27;t see that.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:29:51] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; The other Fantendo admins are a rather independent bunch. They don&#x27;t like me to micromanage what they do. Nowadays I let them run the poll for the most part.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:31:49] &lt;SMB&gt; I understand you do have seniority with running the polls, though, even if you don&#x27;t manage them today. About how long (by that, I mean the duration of time that you managed the polls) were you involved with rotating polls and such?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:37:04] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Not very long. That&#x27;s another thing I was going to bring up: the Poll Chair shouldn&#x27;t need to update the polls so often.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:37:17] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; The Vice Chair could easily do that, or even any member of the committee.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:37:28] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; And any member could remind the committee if somehow people had failed to act.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:38:50] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Back when I was &#x27;Shroom Director, there was no such thing as the Sub-Director position. I did almost everything myself, including the ~5 hours it took me to update everything. Since Glowsquid&#x27;s brilliant addition of the Sub-Director position, I realized that the task of updating things in the real world falls to Chief of Staffs and things, not the Bosses. Why should the online world be different?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:39:11] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; The Fantendo admins were more than happy to update the polls on their own.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:41:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Hey s-y<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:11] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Your question?<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:41:20] &lt;s-y&gt; i cant talk<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:27] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; YES WE CAN<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:28] &lt;SMB&gt; I&#x27;m sorry, I have another point really quick.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:31] &lt;s-y&gt; question for what<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:32] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Oh ok<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:34] &lt;SMB&gt; If you don&#x27;t mind.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:41:54] &lt;s-y&gt; oh yea<br />
[2011-07-11 22:42:37] &lt;SMB&gt; I do not see why it is necessary, or beneficial, to give seven people access to the poll account.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:43:14] &lt;SMB&gt; It would probably become hectic, and not all of the individuals that would be on the committee, I&#x27;m sure, have experience with poll software.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:44:00] &lt;SMB&gt; (Actually, eight individuals)<br />
[2011-07-11 22:44:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Well, I think it is the duty of the Poll Chair and Vice Chair to train other members of the Committee to use the software.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:44:40] &lt;SMB&gt; Currently, only three individuals have access to the account: Porplemontage, me, and Stooben. It works perfectly fine, and all of the current members nominate and vote on polls to feature perfectly well.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:44:59] &lt;SMB&gt; How would adding more work to the Chair and Vice-Chair be beneficial?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:45:21] &lt;SMB&gt; If they have to take the time to train five other people how to use the software.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:45:49] &lt;SMB&gt; Not to mention the fact that if a member decides not to mess around with the poll software, then it is wated time and effort.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:45:58] &lt;SMB&gt; (To try to teach them how, anyway).<br />
[2011-07-11 22:46:31] &lt;SMB&gt; Please explain this to me, and how it would be better than the current system.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:47:15] &lt;tfp&gt; is it hard to learn?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:47:38] &lt;tfp&gt; it could be beneficial in the long run<br />
[2011-07-11 22:47:50] &lt;SMB&gt; Not specifically, but still taking the time to teach five people how to use the software would be too time consuming to really be too productive.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:48:01] &lt;tfp&gt; hmm<br />
[2011-07-11 22:48:44] &lt;SMB&gt; At least, in my opinion.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:48:46] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; While it might be more work at first, I think it&#x27;ll pay off. Teach a man to fish is better than giving him one. Then he&#x27;s set for life.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:49:08] &lt;tfp&gt; yes<br />
[2011-07-11 22:49:13] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; What if all three people are unavailable for one day?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:50:00] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I suppose if a member doesn&#x27;t want to learn the poll software, then time shouldn&#x27;t be wasted on them though. That is a good point. But if someone doesn&#x27;t want to do that, I wonder why they were interested on being on the committee in the first place...<br />
[2011-07-11 22:50:24] &lt;SMB&gt; To suggest polls and vote on which ones are quality.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:51:25] &lt;SMB&gt; There are some members of the current committee that make loads of poll suggestions, and they get featured.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:51:49] &lt;SMB&gt; Yet I couldn&#x27;t imagine them wanting to get involved with the back-end management of the committee and the software.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:52:45] &lt;SMB&gt; I also understand your point on having multiple people to back up the management of the polls.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:52:53] &lt;SMB&gt; But where do you draw the line?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:53:03] &lt;SMB&gt; What if the whole committee was absent for a day?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:53:30] &lt;SMB&gt; Do you give the password and account to even more people?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:53:47] &lt;SMB&gt; Or do you just count on that being totally unreasonable and unlikely to happen?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:55:09] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; First point noted. I don&#x27;t have the advantage of having all of the down-lo of the internal workings of the Poll Committee. I&#x27;m running as the outsider, reform candidate, after all.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:55:29] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Your second point: If the whole committee is absent, then that means that the three people now are absent too right?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:55:49] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; What would you do for that situation?<br />
[2011-07-11 22:56:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I already have my thoughts down, but I&#x27;d like to see your point of view on the subject too.<br />
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[2011-07-11 22:58:15] &lt;SMB&gt; Sorry.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:58:18] &lt;SMB&gt; Basically,<br />
[2011-07-11 22:58:48] &lt;SMB&gt; Stooben and I have run into this problem before. There were times when we have been absent and nobody dealt with the rotation.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:59:05] &lt;SMB&gt; However, it has not proven to impact voting too much, if at all.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:59:32] &lt;SMB&gt; Our records constantly show (if with one or two exceptions) high vote counts.<br />
[2011-07-11 22:59:46] &lt;SMB&gt; Always over 1,000.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:00:00] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Excellent.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:00:09] &lt;SMB&gt; And I&#x27;m certain almost usually closer to 3000, 4000, and even 5000.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:00:17] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Wonderful.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:00:26] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Anyways, I wouldn&#x27;t give out the password to people not on the committee.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:00:40] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Sysops included.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:01:02] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Well, maybe if they really wanted, but I don&#x27;t see them being very eager for it.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:01:22] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I think the polls are solid enough to withstand a delaying storm or two.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:03:41] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:06:05] &lt;SMB&gt; Okay, I believe I&#x27;m done rebutting Plumber&#x27;s answer from so long ago.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:06:41] &lt;SMB&gt; Anybody have any questions, be sure to query me with a request to ask them!<br />
[2011-07-11 23:08:22] &lt;SMB&gt; Also, just kind of aside from a massive debate (I&#x27;m more curious than anything)<br />
[2011-07-11 23:08:40] &lt;SMB&gt; Where will your &quot;side polls&quot; on the forum go? Like, in which board?<br />
[2011-07-11 23:10:25] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; General Discussion seems like a good place for it. To ensure it&#x27;s more active<br />
[2011-07-11 23:10:36] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; there will be links directly to the thread on the wiki<br />
[2011-07-11 23:10:39] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; *threads<br />
[2011-07-11 23:10:53] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; It should probably get it&#x27;s own subboard in General Discussion, come ta think of it<br />
[2011-07-11 23:11:20] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright.<br />
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[2011-07-11 23:12:35] &lt;SMB&gt; Also, back to a bit more of a formal question, why do you feel making the Poll process more democratic would be more beneficial?<br />
[2011-07-11 23:12:40] &lt;SMB&gt; To expound upon this\<br />
[2011-07-11 23:13:20] &lt;SMB&gt; The polls used to be purely democratically selected; all of the users were able to nominate and vote on which polls they felt should have been run.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:13:50] &lt;SMB&gt; This system was shut down, and it took many, many months to get the current system up.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:14:18] &lt;SMB&gt; The current system being received with open arms from most of the community.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:14:45] &lt;SMB&gt; Wouldn&#x27;t making it more democratic be bringing it closer to the former, failed system?<br />
[2011-07-11 23:15:31] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; No. The old system was very different.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:15:44] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; In this new system, the poll committee still can propose and select questions.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:15:55] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; It&#x27;s just that now users can submit their own questions to the committee.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:17:56] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright, understood.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:19:05] &lt;SMB&gt; Well, that&#x27;s really all I have to ask.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:20:05] &lt;SMB&gt; Actually, one more question.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:20:41] &lt;SMB&gt; Perhaps a pretty generic question, and not really one I feel I&#x27;m at liberty to debate.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:20:57] &lt;SMB&gt; But I must pose one of the most important questions, in my opinion:<br />
[2011-07-11 23:21:44] &lt;SMB&gt; Why exactly do we need a reform of this process? I understand that a simple &quot;Why /shouldn&#x27;t/ we?&quot; can be used.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:21:46] &lt;SMB&gt; However<br />
[2011-07-11 23:22:40] &lt;SMB&gt; I&#x27;m not the one that has to clarify. :P You are the one proposing these changes, and I feel there must be a general concept behind your wanting to reform the process.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:22:51] &lt;SMB&gt; I contend that it isn&#x27;t broken, and doesn&#x27;t need to be fixed.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:23:06] &lt;SMB&gt; But I&#x27;m still interested to hear more about this in general.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:27:30] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Well, I for one believe that there&#x27;s always room for improvement, anywhere, anytime.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:27:56] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; &quot;If it ain&#x27;t broke don&#x27;t fix it&quot; always seemed to be like a lack of innovation. And that can lead to staganation in real life.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:28:13] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Of course in a wiki, such things are less likely to happen.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:29:04] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; But it&#x27;s still possible. Under certain periods of the wiki&#x27;s history, protests and suggestions for improvement were shot down, sometimes harshly.<br />
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[2011-07-11 23:30:09] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; For the specific question of the expansion of polling question suffrage...<br />
[2011-07-11 23:30:43] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; If more guys&#x27;re going to contribute poll questions than just the committee...<br />
[2011-07-11 23:30:50] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; We&#x27;re gonna get better and better questions.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:31:07] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; If someone goes out of their way to suggest a question, they&#x27;ve probably put at least a little thought into it.<br />
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[2011-07-11 23:31:23] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; Mathematically this makes the addition of more good polling questions a certainty.<br />
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[2011-07-11 23:32:42] &lt;SMB&gt; Alright. As I mentioned before, this was more of a question to gain an understanding rather than one to be debated.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:32:52] &lt;SMB&gt; So thank you for expounding upon that.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:33:20] &lt;SMB&gt; If there aren&#x27;t any other questions, I suppose we should wrap up the debate.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:33:37] &lt;SMB&gt; (Query me questions if you want to ask them!)<br />
[2011-07-11 23:34:02] &lt;SMB&gt; 22 has an important question:<br />
[2011-07-11 23:34:18] &lt;SMB&gt; &quot;what do you think of poochy&quot;<br />
[2011-07-11 23:36:48] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I always worried taht<br />
[2011-07-11 23:36:55] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; he would eat a Snufit Ball <br />
[2011-07-11 23:37:00] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; with his mouth open like that<br />
[2011-07-11 23:37:08] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; and die AGGRESSIVELY <br />
[2011-07-11 23:37:14] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; *that<br />
[2011-07-11 23:37:39] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; which is why I nurture him with cheese and pie, when Ghost Jam has a surplus of his pie herd<br />
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[2011-07-11 23:39:57] &lt;SMB&gt; Heh. :P Well, I suppose that wraps this debate up, folks! Thanks to all that have participated, and I wish you luck in the election, Plumber.<br />
[2011-07-11 23:40:39] &lt;Plumber|Debate&gt; I will certainly need it! Especially against you. :)<br />
[2011-07-11 23:41:52] &lt;SMB&gt; Thank you! Goodnight, MarioWiki!<br />
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