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Since we now treat Monty Mole as derivative of Rocky Wrench, I thought perhaps it would be better to put Rocky at the forefront here (and while at it, include the non-Monty derivatives of Rocky from Galaxy). Like so. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:19, May 4, 2024 (EDT)
It's definitely fair game for the template title itself, but could "Rocky Wrenches and Monty Moles" potentially work as the navtemplate's header title? Some of our casual readers might not immediately understand the connection. (T|C) 23:26, May 4, 2024 (EDT)
I second "Rocky Wrenches and Monty Moles". We'd also have to rename Category:Monty Moles (as well as expand it to include Rocky Wrenches) to match. SolemnStormcloud (talk) 23:37, May 4, 2024 (EDT)
I mean, we could also just make a "category:Rocky Wrenches" and have "category:Monty Moles" be a subcategory of it, there's enough items. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:45, May 4, 2024 (EDT)
Yeah, that's probably better—"Category:Rocky Wrenches and Monty Moles" is a long title for a non-media category. SolemnStormcloud (talk) 00:33, May 5, 2024 (EDT)
I was just thinking this. Although, does it look a little odd to list Rocky Wrench under "Miscellaneous" when it's the parent species? Maybe change "Species" to "Rocky Wrench species" so "Miscellaneous" can be "Montys"? LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:00, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
Maybe just good ol' Moles at this point. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:11, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
Anyway now we run into this issue, that proposal that passed is turning out to be a pretty bad idea imo. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 23:24, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
We could nix the divergence in the template, like so...
What do we think of this? LinkTheLefty (talk) 00:01, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
I still prefer my template, personally. (Also objectivism is -never- a bad idea.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:09, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
Not satisfied with either. Rocky Wrenches don't have enough variants to really be given a leading spot on the template, and most elements of this template concern themselves being under Monty Moles. Rocky Wrenches should probably just be in its own spot on the template like we're currently doing (Shellcreeper, a Koopa that predated the "Koopa" term, is in another template) because most people will see these as a kind of Monty Mole, technicalities not withstanding. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 12:21, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
Problem is that leaves out the SMG enemies. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:24, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
So... is the current nav template wrong? It seems like it's doing its job. "Relatives" is perfectly vague enough to include everything that superficially resembles Monty Mole. I don't like any of these suggestions otherwise. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 13:02, June 8, 2024 (EDT)
Personally, I'd rather the head of the navigation bar was just "Monty Moles". I'm not sure why the navigation template must change its heading just because they derived from Rocky Wrenches. The former are more prolific. Couldn't Rocky Wrenches and their direct relatives (like Undergrunts) not just be included in the "relatives" row? Because if Monty Moles derived from Rocky Wrenches, they are objectively related to one another. Nothing is lost or incorrect. - Nintendo101 (talk) 17:06, June 17, 2024 (EDT)
(T|C) 23:26, May 4, 2024 (EDT)
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 12:21, May 17, 2024 (EDT)
