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== More Content ==

More content, such as hands-on video, showcasing three courses and gameplay and the Wii U Developer Direct, which revealed Miiverse, replays and another new course is available on the [http://www.mariokartwii.com/f105/big-list-all-confirmed-things-mario-kart-117569-6.html Mario Kart Wii forums]. [[User:Webkinz Mania|Webkinz Mania]] ([[User talk:Webkinz Mania|talk]]) 16:56, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

== Mario Kart TV Reference? ==
[[:File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn08 E3.png]]
In this photo I've posted above, if you look under the 5th colored flag from the left under the ''[[Mario Kart]]'' sign, it looks like there is a television truck that says ''[[Mario Kart]]'' on the side, and if you watch the trailer, and pause at the right moment, you can see it clearly. So, I think Nintendo is referencing their new feature inside the game quietly? What about you? Oh and sorry for the super-large photo, but you have to have it big to notice the truck anyway! Also I'm not talking about television referencing, I'm talking about the Miiverse feature called Mario Kart TV. --BlueYoshi211 21:49, 11 June 2013 (EDT)

== Automatic drift reference? ==
I just got done watching the most recent trailer (for like the 1 millitonth time), and I noticed something odd- watch the part with Waluigi on the amusement park track, and watch the way he turns- not only does he not hop when he goes around the corner, he emits smoke once he starts turning. Do you guys think that it is a refrence to automatic drifting? If so, should we put it as one of the things returning? Please respond (AFTER watching the Waluigi part)!

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

Haven't you played MK7? If you turn for a certain amount of time, you start sliding. So this might not be Auto Drift. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

NO, I have not played MK7, so I would not have known that.

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
:Ok, take it easy, no hard feelings. But that's the answer. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
I'm sorry(I wasn't trying to be mean).

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

::Dont worry, I thought you were angry. Can't tell what tone people speak in, so I gotta be careful 'bout what I say. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== 2 laps? ==

I watched some GameExplain videos and in both of the 2 demo tracks they played the 2 courses had 2 laps, and they weren't long like Wario Coliseum. Is 2 laps a standard feature or is it just because of the demo? {{User|Yoshi876}}
:I'm pretty sure it is because of the demo, since the ''Mario Kart 7'' demo also had two laps instead of the usual three. --- {{User:ThePremiumYoshi/sig}} 17:10, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
::Just noting, but it has 3 courses, but Andre has only uploaded videos of two of them at this moment. --BlueYoshi211 21:38, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
Yup, it has 3 courses. In the final version, there will be more!
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== All of these are...==
All of the photos that follow are all from [[Mario Circuit]], that means the 8-shaped track is it, and if you may've noticed the track with Peach's Castle is the same as the 8-shaped track. Photos are as follows: (--BlueYoshi211 22:00, 11 June 2013 (EDT))
<gallery>
File:Illustration - Mario Kart 8.png
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn19 E3.png
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn08 E3.png
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn02 E3.png
File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn01 E3.png
</gallery>

==Does this count?==
Sorry to set of bob-omb (he, humorous word play) but the anti-gravity racing thing was done years ago in Crash Nitro kart, much to disappoint that this game offers nothing really new, but being a pain aside would this count as trivia? - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]
:It's a new gimmick for the ''Mario Kart'' series, at least. <br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 00:14, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
::Yes but is it able to go in trivia?  - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]
:::Its not Mario Related. - BlueYoshi211

==Suits of Armor==
With the suits of armour on th e haunted house level, the ones with the giant hammers that try to crush passing racers, would they be counted as non-playable? - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]
:That or make a new section for obstacles. {{User|Yoshi876}}
Maybe we should add a section for obstacles, but we would be adding lots, like Pipes, Trams, pillars, roller coasters & clock hands. Might not be worth it. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

==Reference in new track==
Isn't the track with sweets similar to the Sugar Rush track as seen in the movie ''Wreck-It Ralph''? {{User:Chris Helper/sig}}
:Don't think so, as we have had a [[Cookie Land|a sweet-themed course before]] {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:17, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
:I see where you're going ever since Mario was mentioned quite a lot in the movie, plus Bowser was there too. I'm starting to think Nintendo is starting to blend Mario and Wreck-It-Ralph. Anyway it does look an awful lot like Sugar Rush.
{{User|CRode}}
:::Wait, you forgot Tart Top, it's not just Cookie Land, since Tart Top is sweet-themed. --[[User:Meinfoo22|Meinfoo22]] ([[User talk:Meinfoo22|talk]]) 20:54, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

I really did not think that Mario was mentioned a whole lot in the movie- in fact, I really did not hear of him but once in the movie! I do not think that they are blending the two together- that would cause too much contradictery- I do, however, like the idea of the candy-themed tracks. I love Tart Top and Cookie Land, and putting a candy track would really expand the sweet themed tracks!

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

:He was only mentioned once, so I don't think that puts Wreck-It Ralph on the table yet. For now, I think it's just a sweets course whose creation may have been influenced by Sugar Rush. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:04, 6 September 2013 (EDT)

== Parts Confirmed==


Wouldn't it be possible to start adding a list of parts. We can't necessarily name what the karts are, but we know what some of the wheels are. In Nintendo's Mario Kart 8 Trailer I have noted the appearance of standard, monster, and slim wheels on both karts and bikes. {{unsigned|TheOxymoron431}}

: I understand what your getting at here. But it was never actually stated that customization would return this time. Also the vehicles shown all stay the same. Until more info is dropped we really shouldn't make a list for parts. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]
::In the demo, you can play only a set combination. I'm certain that this feature will return, as I saw Wario driving a standard kart with large wheels while other characters drive a standard kart with smaller wheels. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:18, 15 June 2013 (EDT)

: I know what your saying and I think that would be a good idea for now. However, if you compare the karts and bikes throughout the video you can specifically note the monster (ex: wario, daisy, waluigi), standard (ex: mario, yoshi, donkey kong), and slim (ex: peach, luigi (the slim tires do have a new design which I prefer to the old version)). Along with the conclusion of coins I am also highly confident that the customization feature will return (and I really liked that idea, mix it up a little.....or a lot).
{{unsigned|TheOxymoron431}}

== Dry Dry Desert or just a desert track? ==

I've watched the trailer quite a few times now and the desert track doesn't seem to look like Dry Dry Desert much. The screenshots we have also don't show much of the track so we don't have much proof of it being Dry Dry Desert. Should we just change it to a desert track possibly being Dry Dry Desert? {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:I think that's be best, I mean to me it more resembles [[Dry Dry Ruins]] from what I've seen because of the falling pillars. So it'd be better to have it a desert course. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::Its missing many things from [[Dry Dry Ruins]] to be that track, but it does have features of [[Dry Dry Desert]], though the original course doesn't have falling pillars, if it is not a new course, which it may be a new course, it is probably a new feature of the track like how Nintendo has added glide ramps to the retro courses in Mario kart 7. {{User|BlueYoshi211}}
:::I did watch gameplay footage of the original Dry Dry Desert and it looks very similar to the start of the course, but with the falling pillars I really don't know. {{User|Yoshi876}}

I took these photos of the track from the trailer and I don't see much of a reseblence to Dry Dry Desert. While there are some similarities, I still don't think it's the course. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:::I think it's Dry Dry Desert. After all, it's appearing as a retro course. --[[User:Meinfoo22|Meinfoo22]] ([[User talk:Meinfoo22|talk]]) 20:50, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

[[File:MK8DesertTrack.png|300px]]
[[File:MK8WarioDesertTrack.png|300px]]

I think it Might Be Wii's Dry Dry Ruins, seeing that the falling pillars seem to return. I am not saying this is true, however- Nintendo hasn't said a word about it.

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

I agree. It does look a lot like that course.
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I found a clue that maybe confirm if it is Dry Dry Desert, in the image below in the photo of Mario Kart 8 if you look closely, on the right side we can see the two statues that are after the quick sand (picture below ) also have the same shape, I hope this has helped a little. {{User:MarioYoshi2/sig}}

[[File:Mario Kart Desert Statue Comparison.jpg|300px]]

I also saw those in [[Mario Kart Wii|Mario Kart Wii's]] [[Dry Dry Ruins (course)|Dry Dry Ruins]].

This is a link to a photo I just saw: on the right hand side, you can see a falling pillar like the ones on Wii's Dry Dry Ruins!!
http://www.google.com/imgres?biw=1024&bih=616&tbm=isch&tbnid=SMbfx4ffz5_eQM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/30562-mario-kart-8-video-trailer-immagini-e-nuovi-dettagli-da-nintendo.htm&docid=hJ5REpcZhxvEjM&imgurl=http://www.gamerbrain.net/wp-content/gallery/mario-kart-8/e3-2013-nintendo-direct-mario-kart-8-017.jpg&w=2560&h=1440&ei=VkhMUqvCPMnirQH-rYCIBg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=407&page=4&tbnh=149&tbnw=266&start=45&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:59,s:0,i:268&tx=123&ty=60

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
:In the original track there are pillars that are already fallen in a similarly winded area, so it's likely something new they're adding on. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:24, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

Sorry im late lost my car keys...what? Nothing! Anyway, i saw this and decided to find "similarities" that may support it being the Gamecube version, First may i point out the wii version does not have such corners, secondly they seem to match with the gamecubes version albiet background redsigns and graphic updates make it a bit harder to work out. To sum up theres a %10 chance of it being the wii version a %20 chance of being the Gamecube version and a %70 chance of being a new track altogether. Also i would recommend, from here on out suspending discussions of unknown tracks from screenshots unless it can be strongly confirmed it is the said track. For these always end with this phrase in some way *ahem* Until more about the (subject being) track is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. Also this particular discussion has gotten pretty long, and yes iv written a lot too it just now. So until more about the track or game is revealed we cannot confirm, either release of details on the site or when the game comes out will answer our curiosity. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]    <big>BOO!! ^w^</big>

So should we keep Dry Dry Desert listed on the article or change it to "Unnamed desert track"? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:It should be changed to unknown desert track until it can be fully proven what it is. - [[File:Cubeguy2ver.png|30px]][[User:Cubeguy|Cubeguy]][[User talk:Cubeguy|(talk)]]    <big>BOO!! ^w^</big>

::I 100% officially agree that it is GCN Dry Dry Desert, especially now with what MarioYoshi2 said above. -BlueYoshi211 20:09, 28 October 2013 (EDT)

:How come it now lists GCN Dry Dry Desert under retro courses? There has been no real evidence. However, the fact that it was not shown in the Nintendo Direct with the other Nitro Courses, then this may be a hint that it is Dry Dry Desert.
-Yoshi dude44

In the newest trailer, there's a poster with Toad and a picture of a desert scene and if you look closely it says "Dry Dry Desert." Seems like pretty good evidence to me. 
(TheWoody322)

Maybe it's a new Dry Dry Desert. They do not show retro course pictures on nitro courses.

I noticed that those statues are also on Dry Dry Ruins as well. they aren't that hard to find- THEY ARE AT BOTH THE STARTING LINE AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE PYRAMID!!!

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

yes I know, but look at your location and compare them.

[[File:MKWii-DryDryRuins2.png|300px]]
[[File:MKWii-DryDryRuins6.png|300px]]

[[File:MK8DesertTrack.png|300px]]

clearly do not match because the statues of Dry Dry Ruins are attached to a wall. 
while that of Mario Kart 8 is not attached to any wall and are located just after the curves as Dry Dry Desert.  
moreover, in Sunshine Airport and it was shown that Dry Dry Desert comes back as there is a sign with Toad and a desert that says Dry Dry Desert
{{User:MarioYoshi2/sig}}

Again, I feel it should be removed once more, mainly for the same reason we're not labeling the nitro tracks. The latest trailer showed nothing of any retro tracks and like the nitro tracks, we shouldn't rely on Sunshine Airport as a source. Even with the small similarities, there still isn't enough proof that this track is Dry Dry Desert. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Maybe they are really unattached. The Wii couses might of gotten thicker.
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but which there is the entrance to the ruins is really too LOGICAL
there is NO ENTRACE.
Now look at the image, comparing those statues with GCN Dry Dry Desert
also going exactly the same way the same curves is more than true that this track is GCN Dry Dry Desert. Also because reason would put the name of this track in Sunshine Airport? use the logic.
{{User:MarioYoshi2/sig}}

Sorry -______- I guess you guys were right...Sorry for the trouble. 

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

== Points ==

I saw this on the Mario Kart Wii forum: http://www.mariokartwii.com/f105/points-per-position-118357.html -- It has the points per position from 1-12. [[User:Webkinz Mania|Webkinz Mania]] ([[User talk:Webkinz Mania|talk]]) 14:46, 19 June 2013 (EDT)
:I've seen this points system before, when I was at the Nintendo experience Best Buy event. But yeah, it's different from Mario Kart Wii's one. <br> {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 14:58, 19 June 2013 (EDT)

==Controls==
The guy in the developer direct said you can play with the Wii Wheel and Wii Remote/Nunchuck. Where do I put this? {{unsigned|KoopaKiller13}}

:I think we just wait until we put up a controls section in the article, then list the controls for the Wii Remote and Nunchuck. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== They can do Wheelies ==

Really? Racers(in this game) who have bikes CAN do wheelies. WATCH THE NINTENDO DIRECT AND YOU'LL FIND IT HERE!!!{{unsigned|Ahmadchannel2}}
:If you had a link to a video showing wheelies please share it then. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 02:08, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

in the nintendo direct http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D1I5s236o I've seen a Princess Peach do a wheelie in the minute 10:15 and at 10:20 {{User|MarioYoshi2}}
:So far it's only happened when she gets a speed boost from something like a mushroom. For now I don't think they can actually do wheelies manually like in Mario Kart Wii. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:17, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
::If anyone is willing to capture a screenshot, I would believe this but, in the Direct at the said time, I only see Peach drifting. So until further notice I do not believe that bikes can not do wheelies, and can go into second tier. [[User:BlueYoshi211|BlueYoshi211]]([[User talk:BlueYoshi211|talk]])

I would say they would have to include wheelies in the game, othewise the motorcycles would be just go- karts with only 2 wheels!

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

Further evidence, at the very beginning of the neon track we see Mario do a wheelie, and Wario wheelies in the GBA Mario Circuit.[[User:MKguy7|MKguy7]] 
([[User talk:MKguy7|talk]]) 22:19, 14 February 2014 (EST)

I'm pretty sure that that is just the effect on the bike when the player receives a boost. Plus, Bikes can do Red Mini-Turbo's now, so that almost deconfirms manual wheelies - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

WHAT?!? Where did you find the quote-on-quote "Red Mini-Turbos?" I never saw those ONCE in the trailer!

 [[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
:You didn't play the demo, did you? I think they had Super Mini Turbo's, can't remember for sure, but wheelies are only possible during boosts for mushrooms or the like. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Leaked release date ==

I read on a site that Nintendo leaked the release date to be April next year. I have the link, but I want to know if it's a reliable source. 
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/01/nintendo-accidently-reveals-april-release-date-for-mario-kart-8-3863653/ {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:Delayed response: it's best if we wait for an official, public announcement of the release date.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 05:49, 27 August 2013 (EDT)

:That was accidental? In that case I don't think we should follow it. As YK said we shouldn't add a release date until it's revealed officially. {{User:Scr7/sig}} 06:09, 27 August 2013 (EDT)

I was doing some reading online and all of the websites that I looked up the info on say the same thing that Tails 777 said.

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

Considering it's getting released in May, it's not a reliable source. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:The comments are months old... {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:08, 3 March 2014 (EST)
Just means 'don't trust this site'. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

YOU ARE WRONG(and I guess I was at first too- lololol)! IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED ON MAY 30th! I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMPED MAN! 

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

== GBA Cheese Land?!? ==
I have been hearing rumors about them bringing back GBA Cheese Land. I also heard that they are bringing back the rosters from Mario Kart Wii & 7. Is this true? Please tell me if you do know!

-ToadBoy1999

Where did you find these rumors?

Nintendo Life.com.

-ToadBoy1999

Since they have not been proven we cannot edit Retro course content.
{{unsigned|90.38.164.107}}

Thanks!
-ToadBoy1999

== Supported controllers. ==

According to the E3 Nintendo Direct, and also Wikipedia, Mario Kart 8 seems to support Wii Remote + Nunchuck, and the Wii U Pro Controller, along with the ones listed. {{User|smb3master}}

==Double Dash mode==
People seem to misinterpret the whole "Double Dash" idea from this interview:

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=206829

But they said this: "For Mario Kart 7, and 8, we decided not to use it." so that basically means it's deconfirmed. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:26, 27 September 2013 (EDT)

== References section ==

Does the game having 12 players really count as a reference to MKW? We must be pretty desperate to fill that section. [[Special:Contributions/142.161.163.120|142.161.163.120]] 14:56, 5 October 2013 (EDT)

:Personally, it shouldn't be a reference to the game. Mario Kart 8 is on a home console that can fit more in games than the previous one so it makes sense that Nintendo would do that so it should be removed. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== New Track Names ==

In the beginning of the new Mario Kart trailer in a scene at the airport, and in a second scene moments after, "destinations" are listed on a screen that are probably just course names. Also the name of the airport in the new trailer is "Sunshine Airport." So if it's anything like Coconut Mall (In which the course was named after its location) then that course will probably be called Sunshine Airport. 
<br />
* Cloudtop Cruise - definitely the new cloud/battleship course
* Thwomp Ruins - the "ruins" course with Thwomps (duh) (probably the same one they showed off at E3 too)
* Sweet Sweet Canyon - the sweet-themed course we saw today and back at E3
*Bone Dry Dunes - probably the desert-esque course seen with part of Dry Bowser's head in it
* Dolphin Shoals - not sure but a shoal is pretty much a sandbar near an ocean so I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this one yet
*Shy Guy Falls - Sounds like it could be water-related, but not sure since we have't seen anything that this might be
(thewoody322)
:This is sadly not a confirmation or a fact however, just a huge hint. This may be better to keep in the trivia section, or not at all, for now. [[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] ([[User talk:Koopalmier|talk]]) 15:32, 18 December 2013 (EST)
::Nintendo is great at showing new things for only a split amount of time, and Sweet Sweet Canyon is also shown in one of the posters just like Dry Dry Ruins in the Sunshine Airport course. So I'm adding it as the track's name. - BlueYoshi211


All of these have been confirmed EXCEPT Bone Dry Dunes and Cloudtop Cruise as far as I know. Also, where does it state Cloudtop Cruise being in the special cup?

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

:Both those tracks were confirmed through official Nintendo facebook pages. The sources were removed, but there is also footage of Cloudtop Cruise that shows both the name and the cup. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBnfSsuF07c] {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Confirming the real names of tracks ==

This is bugging me. I don't see how names listed in the airport track confirm the names of other tracks. Sure the names are convenient to the tracks confirmed, but I don't feel that's the best source we have. Nintendo themselves never said this was true and it's an AIRPORT track, for all we know, they could be names placed there as eye candy. I think it's best to wait until a more official source can confirm this. {{User:Tails777/sig}}


: I didn't personally add the names to the actual page (and I know it isn't fully official) but those names are way too close to be just a coincidence --TheWoody322

::Even so, it's still better to wait until something more official is said about them. No matter how convenient it is, it's speculation never the less. You said it yourself, you don't know if it's officially confirmed therefore we should wait. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:::I was never saying with that comment that we ''shouldn't'' wait, I was just stating I'm pretty sure it's more than just "eye candy."  --TheWoody322
::::They may be real names, but the problem is attributing these names to the tracks. I think it would be wise to just wait a little longer. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:25, 19 December 2013 (EST)

Even so, that's the only source we have, so it should be there, just with a side note stating that they 'aren't official names'. - Guest
:No, because if they aren't official names then they're speculation and we don't allow speculation. {{User|Yoshi876}}

Even though you're right, were did sweet sweet canyon come from? I haven't seen anything official for that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. - Guest

:It was officially confirmed on the official Mario Kart page on Facebook. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Ok, names such as Shy Guy falls shouldn't be added yet due to lack of evidence, however, people like IGN & Gamexplain have said the same names, but that is still speculation. Sorry if I wasted your time.

Some courses and their names are confirmed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYtzinjKsMA (Some of the courses are shown in this video) - Glaceon2537

== Release date pushed or for a different region ==

http://www.nintendo.com.au/index.php?action=news&nid=3097

This article stats that Mario Kart 8 will be released in autumn 2014. Now does this pertain to all regions, one or another or is it some mistake since Nintendo claimed it would be released in spring 2014 in the Nintendo Direct itself. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:According to GameFAQs, AU had a TBA date in its place while other areas already have a Spring date. So I think it applies only to Australia. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:07, 22 December 2013 (EST)

== Dry Dry RUINS. Not Dry Dry Desert. ==

I have noticed falling pillars and the Yoshi Sphinx. Throughout the footage I can find, these are characteristics of Dry Dry Ruins on the Wii version, and not Dry Dry Desert on the Gamecube version. However, I could be wrong, as I have truly never played Double Dash. However, a majority of retro courses don't change many large things, and the pillars do have some significance. If anyone could help me, that'd be great. --[[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 20:22, 30 December 2013 (EST)
:There is a poster in the Sunshine Airport course that has Toad with a desert track, showing the characteristic curvy part in Dry Dry Desert. As well, the poster is labelled Dry Dry Desert. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:20, 30 December 2013 (EST)
falling pillars is simply a new feature that they have given to the track and there is not any Yoshi sphinx in any of the image. {{User|MarioYoshi2}}

==New Reference?==
Guys, I heard Sweet Sweet Canyon's music and some parts of it were a remix of Super Mario Land's music! Should this be added?
{{unsigned|98.117.71.18}}
:Well, where did you hear it? [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]
I really did hear it. In the trailer. All of the songs of the tracks play while they show. They are loud enough to hear.
{{unsigned|98.117.71.18}}
::If I remember correctly the trailer had music from past games rather than the new one. {{User|Yoshi876}}
No, it wasn't music from old games. I'd recognize them if they were.((User|Yoshi_dude44))
:::I hope it's not. I've never heard it before, but I might be wrong because I never really heard Paper Mario music. --[[User:MasterSkymning|MasterSkymning]] ([[User talk:MasterSkymning|talk]]) 21:02, 10 February 2014 (EST)
::::Besides, he didn't even specify what level the music is supposed to be from <sub>PS It's not a remix by any way or means</sub> {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:05, 10 February 2014 (EST)
That's just the courses music, so we should put that on its page when it's created. <sub>PS Yes it is a remix by any way or means</sub> - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:::::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remix People like you who think] [[MarioWiki:Good_Writing#Frequently_misused_terms|they know what they're talking about f---ing irritate me]] {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:53, 24 March 2014 (EDT)

== Watch out for potentially BETA features. ==

After thinking about it, I have decided that it is quite possible that the 2 player vertical split-screen has a good chance of not making it to the final game just like what happened for Mario Kart 64.
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:If that's the case it'll be taken off the article and moved to the beta elements page when the game is released. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::The splitscreen is supposed to take advantage of HD TV's tendencies to be very wide. I doubt it would go as a beta element. Furthermore, I wouldn't make this call when the game is still far from being released and what you saw is only a demo. Should the two lap characteristic become an early element? No. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:31, 22 January 2014 (EST)

I saw another one.
In the first trailer Thwomp Ruins had a brighter sky and less clouds. {{unsigned|98.117.71.18}}
:How do you know it's not just a moving sky or a different location? Also, how's the overall brightness between the two screenshots? Honestly, I'd wait until the game is released and devoured. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:06, 22 January 2014 (EST)
I looked carefully in both trailers.
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== Mario Kart 8 DATED ==

I was on mariopartylegacy.com and I saw that Nintendo FINALLY dated Mario Kart 8. They said it is to be released in May.--[[User:Mario234|Mario234]] ([[User talk:Mario234|talk]]) 21:36, 29 January 2014 (EST)

Is there an EXACT date?

-ToadBoy1999
:Nope. Not yet anyway. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:49, 12 February 2014 (EST)

May 29 for Japan, May 30 for North America and Europe, and May 31 for Australia.
:Uh yeah, thanks for responding to an old post before the Nintendo Direct {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:40, 2 March 2014 (EST)

== Tick Tock Clock? ==

Alright, I saw it added to the page and removed, but I have noticed a few things, including the pendulum and the two sets of gears near the end. Pause at 1:38 to see. Honestly, I think we have fair proof that this stage may be back. I have practically memorized the course, from how many times I've played it, and the turns, power-up locations, pendulum, and gears all seem to have a solid confirmation of this track.
[[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 18:18, 13 February 2014 (EST)
:I don't know, what if it just has a similar layout? I mean, the course received a radical change if that's the case, to the point where it is unrecognizable. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:20, 13 February 2014 (EST)

::Several sections look similar though, namely the part going around the giant clock with large hands. Also look at these - [http://puu.sh/6V19j 1] [http://puu.sh/6V19q 2] - The gears seem to match that of Tick Tock Clock's, and the starting line is seen just ahead. --[[User:SM64DSMK|SM64DSMK]] ([[User talk:SM64DSMK|talk]]) 18:22, 13 February 2014 (EST)

in the minute 0:13 can be clearly seen the part of the clockwise(just look at the floor). just look at the background is the same. this but the comment above confirms that Tick Tock Clock also see all the retro tracks are all quite drastically changed. {{User:MarioYoshi2/sig}}

I've played Tick-Tock Clock to the point where I know every single detail. It is DS Tick-Tock Clock, and if you look at the pendelum at the Morton Koopa Jr. scene, you can see it has a ligtning bolt on it, which means it'll more than likely be on the Ligtning Cup! YES!

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

== Cheep Cheep Lagoon ==

Shouldn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon be listed as  a retro track? It's in the trailer!
Also, I think that Shy Guy Falls was in trailer. It was that "driving on water on a waterfall" track.
[[User: Yoshi_dude44]]

:Where and when did it appear? I didn't see it once and I've watched the trailer like 15 times estimating. {{User:Tails777/sig}}


I think it appears from 00:19 to 00:21. [[User:Yoshi_dude44]]


Wait, just looked. It isn't Cheep Cheep Lagoon. My mistake. [[User: Yoshi_dude44]]

== Mario Kart 8 ESRB Rating ==

The ESRB has rated Mario Kart 8, it will be rated E for Everyone with Mild Cartoon Violence, as see on the offical NA site {{unsigned|Mario234}}
:[[Tanks a Lot]] for the reminder. I thought it was Comic Mischief as in the trailer but w/e {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:58, 14 February 2014 (EST)

==The Neon Color Track==
With the sign that says "Larry Lights", that means it is called what is on the sign.
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:That's speculation territory: we don't allow that {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)

'Larry Lights' looks like another advertising slogan, just like the other ones with MKTV & Mario Motors. - Ninelevendo

I know for a fact it's NOT going to be called "Larry Lights." But I do know that it is going to be on the Star Cup by several banners that appear on the part where Mario is on the anti- gravity wall with the 2 paths. 

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy199]]

Gamexplain says it may be "Klub Koopaling".
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:Even though that might suit the theme, we need proof. It is in the Star Cup, that's obvious, but where exactly is the proof for Klub Koopaling? And please sign your comments or something. Use 'guest' at least if you don't have an account. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Quads = Karts ? ==

are Quads as karts classified ?
--[[User:Kamek33|Kamek33]] ([[User talk:Kamek33|talk]]) 09:20, 14 February 2014 (EST)
:We don't know if they're more related to karts or bikes yet or if they're their own category {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:52, 14 February 2014 (EST)
I'm sure I remember Iwata mentioning during the December Nintendo direct that buggys are a new vehicle type.  Either way, Rosalina is wearing her biker suit next to a buggy in the new artwork --[[User:GThing|GThing]] ([[User talk:GThing|talk]]) 13:06, 14 February 2014 (EST)

== Look what I found on Nintendo.com ==

http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/bin/nIqDtjbbh-_yTuGh_LJZ0CSnykwrmji3/Ryk8ifgqkHePkBqTZcbW_NF5YB2oMJER.png

Funny thing, and it should be in a trivia section, it will have a red case, instead of the usual blue
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:Nice catch. It seems to be NA exclusive if that's the case {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:56, 14 February 2014 (EST)
::The banner still seems to be blue though. [[File:LuigiMK8.png|link=|25px]]<sup>[[User talk:CRode|<span style="color:green">This is Weegee's Year!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Emerald Star TTYD.png|link=User:CRode|20px]]
The image I found was blue. :/ - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== New Course? ==

Unfortunately, I have no screenshot, but in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC0y07goqWs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ at 0:50 it shows a new course. Should this be added?[[User:MKguy7|MKguy7]] ([[User talk:MKguy7|talk]]) 11:25, 15 February 2014 (EST)
:Yes, make sure to use the reference when you put it into the article. {{User|Yoshi876}}

That's Dolphin Shoals, with the dolphins in the background.

== Neon lights course in Star Cup ==
Check the trailer, on the yellow banner in the neon lights course it shows "Star Cup". I think it should be added to the article that it's in the Star Cup. {{User:MKguy7/sig}} 12:43, 16 February 2014 (EST)

[[File:MK8 Neon Star Cup Banner.PNG|300px]]
:We don't add Star Cup for Sunshine Airport, same should be said here. Though I do agree that the course is most likely to be a Star Cup course, it's still veering on speculation which we don't allow on the wiki. Hard proof is what we want. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:09, 16 February 2014 (EST)

But isn't confirming Names because of Posters you see also speculation? - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Track Names Confirmed? ==

GameXplain released another analysis video about the new tracks shown in the latest trailer. They analyzed the track names that seem to fit with the theme. Like there is the waterfall track with shy guys everywhere, seems like Shy Guy Falls. And that screenshot of the dolphin underwater track also was in the trailer for 3 secs could be called Dolphin Shoals. And the Water Park in the trailer with Wario Wheel and Sub Coaster has an ad in the Sunshine Airport that says Water Park, also a mailbox in the track itself says Water Park. So shouldn't we at least put "possibly (posible track name)" at the end of every Nitro track listed on the page? {{User|CRode}}
:No because possible is a speculative term and we don't allow speculation. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::We're not risking adding speculative names from Sunshine Airport. If it's not officially confirmed, then we won't add it, no matter how much grasping at straws we are. End of story. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:07, 16 February 2014 (EST)
:::Whatever it's going to end up being officially confirmed anyway. {{User|CRode}}

== Wheelies ==

The article says that bikes are unable to perform wheelies but in the beginning of the Koopalings trailer Mario does a wheelie off the starting line.
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:Is he doing a boost? Because whenever I see a wheelie, it's followed after a boost. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:38, 17 February 2014 (EST)
It could be from a boost because he was at the starting line.
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:Yes, I'm sure it's just a boost. [[File:LuigiMK8.png|link=|25px]]<sup>[[User talk:CRode|<span style="color:green">This is Weegee's Year!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Emerald Star TTYD.png|link=User:CRode|20px]]
::But wasn't one seen at the beginning of the race, before any item boxes were used, and Mario has no item box at hand. I think wheelies are back. [[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 14:19, 2 March 2014 (EST)
But you can get boosts at the start of races, can't you? - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Toads Factory ==
I thought I saw in the [[Koopalings]] trailer that [[Toad's Factory]] was confirmed and it was listed but removed what happened?  {{User|gamermakerguy}}

:That was a part of that water park course with the Sub Coaster ride on it. I watched a Gamexplain analysis video of the trailer on Youtube and I managed to get a good look at that section. It's not Toad's Factory. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

In the falls course also felt like that with workers.
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== Track Editor? ==

I'm not sure if this is true or not but...  http://www.complex.com/video-games/2014/02/report-mario-kart-8-will-have-track-edior {{unsigned|Mario234}}

That would be cool and all, but it says Nintendo hasn't confirmed this so we shouldn't mention anything unless it is announced. -[[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:That sounds really cool, but won't it kind of defeat the purpose of putting in tracks that Nintendo already made? I think it's a hoax. [[User:MasterSkymning|MasterSkymning]] ([[User talk:MasterSkymning|talk]]) 19:25, 24 February 2014 (EST)
::I definitely think it's a hoax. No way will Nintendo hide a major feature in the game. <sub>Even if it was true it's probably gonna suck anyway</sub> {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:06, 24 February 2014 (EST)
THAT IS NOTHING BUT A BIG,FAT HOAX! NOTHING ON THAT WEBSITE IS TRUE! (trust me, I know)

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

== Japanese box art in high resolution ==

Here's the ''Mario Kart 8'' box art in high resolution, in Amazon.com. [http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81UVWYbZnvL._AA1500_.jpg]
--[[Special:Contributions/77.228.198.87|77.228.198.87]] 13:08, 22 February 2014 (EST)

== Track Names Confirmed ==
Nintendo of Europe confirmed them.
AND THAT MEANS THE AIRPORT NAMES ARE THE REAL ONES. They're the same, they're real. I'm adding them.
[[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 19:07, 1 March 2014 (EST)
:Only some are confirmed not all, the unconfirmed ones are still unconfirmed so they can't be added. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::If NOE confirmed that the names are the same as the Airport ones then it must be true. Also the names are very likely. [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 19:16, 1 March 2014 (EST)
:::Is there a source to confirm this? {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:Just because some are confirmed doesn't mean ALL are confirmed. For all we know they could just be random names. Or like in SSB4, these could be placeholder names. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:10, 1 March 2014 (EST)
::Not saying that we should add them, but they're obviously the real names. [[User:MasterSkymning|MasterSkymning]] ([[User talk:MasterSkymning|talk]]) 22:48, 1 March 2014 (EST)
:::Atleast leave on the Water Park one, it's pretty much confirmed due to a plaque appearing in it that says "Water Park". [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 15:14, 2 March 2014 (EST)
::::Until Nintendo themselves says something about these tracks, no names will be added. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
Water Park is very unlikely to be the name, as it sound horrible for a track name compared to the other tracks which have pretty good names, like Cloudtop Cruise and Bone Dry Dunes.  ~siwel619
:Who knows? Maybe it does turn out to be the name of the course. Nintendo can fudge up names at points like that. This is the reason we don't allow speculation :P {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:48, 2 March 2014 (EST)

:I don't know but so far all track names have been proven the same as airport destinations. As for i don't know about the Water Park, I'm positive Dolphin Shoals and Bone Dry Dunes are those other 2 courses. Which leaves us with 2 final Nitro courses possibly being Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road due to all the past games. [[File:LuigiMK8.png|link=|25px]]<sup>[[User talk:CRode|<span style="color:green">This is Weegee's Year!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Emerald Star TTYD.png|link=User:CRode|20px]]
Actually, 4 more nitro courses, because Bone Dry Dunes is probably the desert track with the bones, and Dolphin Shoals is probably the ocean track with the dolphin rock formations.  The 4 remaining courses could be, like you said, Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road, but that leaves 2 more tracks left, one of which could be a DK themed track, and the other one could be a circuit, seeing that only one circuit has been shown off, and in every mario kart there has been more than one circuit. ~Siwel619
:Assuming we'll even have 16 nitro tracks anyway... {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:25, 5 March 2014 (EST)
You're right, and I just noticed that every console Mario Kart since N64 has three circuits instead of two, which could hint at an extra cup being added, or possibly increasing the number of courses per cup.  {{User|Siwel619}}
:I think that there will be an iced-themed track. [[User:MasterSkymning|MasterSkymning]] ([[User talk:MasterSkymning|talk]]) 20:15, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

WAIT! I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE AMUSMENT PARK TRACK COULD BE NAMED WALUIGI SEABED AFTER LOOKING AT A RECENT NINTENDO SCREENSHOT!!!! 

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

:That could just be a ride name, just like the Sub Coaster and the Wario Wheel. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::I think that the track is named Sub Coaster, it's the main ride and the name of the museum.
And they can't just be listed as conjectural because...? You have Naming guidelines for a reason. Why not apply that here? Why does it have to be "official" all of a sudden? Perhaps you guys should find a way to overcome your personal scruples? [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 22:23, 19 March 2014 (EDT)
:I think this is a different situation. These tracks will get official names near the time the game is released so there is no point on putting speculative names as placeholders. Articles like the [[Llama Temple]] or the [[Almighty Goomba]] are things that either haven't received official names by Nintendo or we simply don't know them and don't have a source to confirm them. We have them listed as conjectural because we gotta have the article somewhere and most of those articles are on subject that have been around way before the wiki even was. We aren't making these articles yet and by the time we do, the official names will most likely be out. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::They aren't entirely speculative, as official media, in this case, a Nintendo Direct, blatantly shows the name of them inside the airport itself. Yeah, it may go by fast, but that doesn't make their existence any less valid. I could see if a third party website threw out some random track names in an article, that would be speculation. But given Nintendo Directs come straight from the horse's mouth, and that track names from those lists are being confirmed one by one, what harm is it to list them as conjectural? If they are different, then change them. I don't see how these names are "random" when they clearly match up with the tracks we have seen in the trailers. It boggles my mind how these aren't even conjectural. I've read over the Naming and Conjecture pages and these track names appear to meet all the criteria [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 00:37, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
:::While you do bring up a good point, I'm still not sure if we do that anyway. Like I said, it we're getting official names anyway, there really is no point on putting up a placeholder name, even if the name and track are closely related. As Baby Luigi said basically twice a few sections up, no matter how close things may be, putting them down is still veering towards speculation which isn't allowed. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::By definition, conjecture IS speculation. They are synonymous. Yet we have a Conjecture page on this Wiki. If speculation isn't allowed, why bother having a Conjecture page detailing how to use conjectural names? [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 01:01, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
:::::My main point is why add conjectural names if we'll get official ones eventually? Pages that have conjectural titles are articles Nintendo hasn't given names to and we've given them names that best suit what the subject is about. Now I know that is speculation, but getting a source for a name on something as old as the [[Llama Temple]] is what I assume to be a rather difficult task. In this situation, it's safe to assume that we'll get all the track names eventually so there is no need to put down conjectural names. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Conjecture doesn't involve ''yet-to-be-released content''. It's only used for enemies, characters, etc. that have appeared in previously released games and such, but lack an official name. {{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 01:07, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
:Then perhaps the Conjecture and Naming page should be revised to include that conveniently stated detail. [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 01:14, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
::It should also be pointed out, like I have posted on the forums that names could have (1. just be random names for things unrelated to the game, and (2. are liable to change because it's not the final product and it'd be better to use only the real names rather than names that we assumed to be true because of some thing we saw. {{User|Yoshi876}}
:::1.) So you are saying, at this point, they mixed up official names and random names on the flight calendars? It only makes sense if it was one or the other. Either they are real name of tracks, or they aren't. We know what direction they are heading. 2.) Again, I do not see the problem as long as they are conjecture, which BabyLuigi claims we don't do yet we have a dedicated page to such a topic with guidelines. The fact that it's an up-and-coming game is a detail not very well expressed in either Conjecture or Naming pages, unless it was conjured up out of thin air to justify why the remaining (could be random) names haven't been out on the page. Remember folks "Shy Guy Falls" and "Dolphin Shoals" <I>could</i> be random. [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 03:10, 20 March 2014 (EDT)

Mind you, I don't speak for anyone else, but I think it's done to avoid excessive pages moves, edit wars, and other miscellaneous floundering about. Things like this happen a lot over at the YGO wikia for example, given that they deal wth name translations for every new card and such. The names might not be 'random' so much as they are 'sound like perfect tracks names until Nintendo takes a left turn and names them something completely different'. It's also generally considered unwise to jump the gun when it comes to official names, or at least that's what I've learned from editing over the years. {{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 03:22, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
:At least your making plausible sense, instead of giving me the runaround like everyone else. [[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 03:54, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
::Well, for whatever this is worth, I'm reading through some of what was said above, and at least some of what I've said has been previously stated there. Regardless, I'm glad I could clear things up some. {{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 04:02, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
:::It's mostly speculation this and speculation that, and practically using that as a scapegoat reason to not add the names when this wiki knowingly has a conjecture page, and Naming page, both of which lack the detail that up-and-coming games do not fall under the realm of conjecture in the first. If they had said what you said above, perhaps many people would have understood the reasoning, but instead various editors quickly slammed the "speculation hammer" without cause. It's detailed responses like yours that makes it easier to understand the point of view of the Wiki.[[User:BirdoFan87|BirdoFan87 - Always fighting for the underdog]] ([[User talk:BirdoFan87|talk]]) 07:31, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
::::Birdo Fan is right about the whole speculation hammer thing. Some people need to stop saying that just because of people's wording. We've added Dry Dry Desert (or was it Ruins? Can't remember.) just because of a poster, yet we don't add Star Cup when it clearly stats that it's in the Star Cup or Lightning Cup. Please consider observations as observations and resist saying '''SPECULATION''' all the time. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:::::::::::Wikis like this one work on providing accurate and correct information on articles, thus we avoid conjectural and speculative names as much as possible unless officially confirmed. The track names in the airport ''are'' considered speculation because 1. Nintendo obviously wasn't meaning to show the track names off at the time it was revealed: you could see it only as part of the background or when you paused at the certain point in the video and it required more scrupulous observation to discern the names and 2. as we stated earlier, it's ''possible'' that Nintendo can do a complete curveball and rename the tracks to something different. It's not hard to change a texture on the track anyway if they did decide to rename a track at the last second. And in my opinion, conjecture names should be ENTIRELY avoided for games that aren't released yet since if we did allow conjecture names for objects that their names aren't released yet, we'd get a ----storm of conjecture names on the items. And if you guys think that this is stupid and think the real name is gonna get confirmed anyway, ''why are you complaining about this''? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:01, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
==Toad Harbor in Flower Cup==
Check this out:e
Instead of the Galaxy Air ad in the final version, the are replaced with banners with pictures of Fire Flowers that say "Flower Cup", so we might recognize seeing the course in the Flower Cup.

While that could be evidence that Toad Harbor is in the Flower Cup, we apparently need better evidence, or surely we would have already said that Sunshine Airport and the neon lights course were Star Cup courses. -[[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

==Easter Egg?==
I found the logo "Waluigi's Sea Bed" on the very right of the image. Could this be appart of the track, or a new one?

[[File:MK8 WarioUpsideDown.png|500px]]


[[File:Petey Piranha Ground Idle.gif]] [[User:Peteyking64|Peteyking]] [[File:KingBooMKW.png]]

:It's just a name for a ride in the course. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Higher Resolution for NA Box Art ==

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517MqXtmOIL._SS400_.jpg Here it is
:kay thanx {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:21, 2 March 2014 (EST)

==Tires==
Were the tire names ''ever'' confirmed or are we just speculating because they look similar to Mario Kart 7's tires? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:40, 6 March 2014 (EST)
:For some, I'd say so, such as the slim tires, the roller wheels and especially the wood wheels (I'll take responsibility for adding the slick tires based on Luigi's kart from the last trailer). Those I can say for sure, though the monster and standard wheels I would say are basically the same. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::But you see, we don't add course names from Sunshine Airport because they're not confirmed. What makes this any different? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:05, 6 March 2014 (EST)
:::It isn't any different. I wasn't saying we'll leave the Monster and Standard the way they are, they should all be changed until they are officially confirmed. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::Mkay I'll do it {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:18, 6 March 2014 (EST)
The Slick looking tires are only green rimmed because Luigi. I think that this should be changed. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:Luigi is the only one who's used them so I don't think we can say much about it just yet. If Peach used them and the stripe turned pink or is Toad used them and the stripe was blue, then we can say something, but for now just leave it. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
What tires does Roy have on? I can't tell. But they look sorta close to Luigi's. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:Looks like those slim tires to me {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:52, 7 March 2014 (EST)
:Slim are bigger than that aren't they? I'll do some research. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
::Yeah but they're skinny and even colored the same the one Wario uses in the December direct. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:53, 7 March 2014 (EST)
:::Ok leave it like that for now, but I'll change it the second we get proof that it ain't green. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Mario Kart 8 Limited Edition ==

Mario Kart 8 Limited Edition - Sholud I make a article on this page about it? http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1179/11799911/2449132-mk8.jpg - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

I don't think so, i'd rather have it on the Mario Kart 8 article. {{User:Randombob-omb4761/sig}}
:I said ON THIS PAGE. -[[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
::You should just add it to the gallery. EDIT: oh wait nevermind i just noticed there's already one like this but including the Blue Shell figurine {{User:DohIMissed/sig}}
What I meant was should I make a section on this article about it. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])
:::Maybe the info about the special edition as well as NA getting a red case could be included under the Trivia section.  {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 19:54, 8 March 2014 (EST)
::::Maybe not in the trivia section, but in the promotion and advertising section I just created (if it weren't for Pennzoil, though, it wouldn't be there). Though it could also fit in the opening paragraph since we DO use the American box-art by default in the infobox so that could work. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:41, 8 March 2014 (EST)
:::::I don't think this should go in the Triva section. - [[User:Ninelevendo|Ninelevendo, the Blue Lightning! ]] ([[User talk:Ninelevendo|talk]])

== Extra details and possibilities discovered ==

Upon closer examination of the trailers and players suggestions, I found some more possibilities and details. The numbers next to the track names on the airport signs could be the record times for that course. The track leading into and out of the PTT cargo plane is actually part of the plane's wing. The cargo crate on the conveyor belt has some sort of picture on it. I can't really make out what it's a picture of regardless of the zoom level, but GameXplain said it highly resembles Gearmo. Gearmo might be another possible character in the game. There is a sea star petrified in the pavement of Bone Dry Dunes which may hint that the track was once a bustling port (due to the ship visible in the background). Royal Patisserie, Peach and Daisy may hint that Sweet Sweet Canyon belongs to Peach and Daisy. Galaxy Air and Propeller Toad Transport may hint that Sunshine Airport belongs to Toad and Rosalina. The island in the background of Sunshine Airport resembles a turtle. The shops in Toad Harbor may hint that Coconut Mall may return as a retro course. and that's pretty much all I can find for now. I'll update the moment I get more.--[[Special:Contributions/174.6.134.128|174.6.134.128]] 03:42, 26 March 2014 (EDT)
:Um, how does that relate to anything? Gearmo is just an Ad slogan, that isn't hinting that he's (it?) a possible character. We don't have any proof of courses belonging to characters ( which we wouldn't put down anyway really). All the other little bits and pieces can go onto the tracks trivia when it's created, otherwise, we have no proof. Thanks for the info anyway. - The Blue Lighting 03:53, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

I've noticed that the ads (Royal Patisserie and Propeller Toad Transport) appear on certain vehicles too; the PTT ad on Luigi's kart as he races on DS Tick-Tock Clock and the Royal Patisserie on Rosalina's orange bike. So, I don't think they mean anything. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 04:58, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

Coconut Mall was already in Mario Kart 7 as a retro course, I think it's highly unlikely that Gearmo is a playble character. {{User|Yoshi_dude44}} 6:23, 26 March 2014 (EDT)

If Coconut Mall was remade MK8 would be the third game in a row that Coconut Mall was in. I find it unlikely for any course after the SNES ones to be remade a third time at all anyway. I don't think Gearmo will be a playable character, and I wouldn't say anything about it yet, and since it's not really easy to make out, it may be a coincidence. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

Ok, I actually meant to say that Gearmo might have some sort of '''''role''''' in the game. I never said he was playable. Anyways, there is an ad sign in Toad Harbor displaying "Super Marine World". That might be the name of the marine-based theme park race track. Also in one of the screenshots of the ocean park track, there is a carousel made up of shells. Its name is partway displayed and GameXplain might think it spells out the word "Shell" since it make sense of the ride seats taking the form of shells. However, a YouTuber suspects the name of the ride may be called "Caroushell" since it's a carousel with shells for ride seats. The bird nest and eggs in Thwomp Ruins and Shy Guy Falls might belong to a bird that lives in that area. It was pointed out in the 3rd trailer at the part when Bowser and the Koopalings getting ready to enter a flying section in Shy Guy Falls during the trailer.--[[Special:Contributions/96.49.137.125|96.49.137.125]] 21:14, 31 March 2014 (EDT)
:I just don't get why we need to know this info right now. It's practically useless speculation ''until'' we make extra stuff when the game is released. Just add this info yourself when the game is out. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 22:06, 31 March 2014 (EDT)

Agreed, there is no real reason to put them anywhere and it has been made ''very'' clear that some things like these are speculation. Yes these may turn out to be true, but they're not making it on to the main page until it is confirmed. For the minor details, they can just be added to the pages that will inevitably be made for the tracks. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

==2 Rainbow Roads==
Somebody from Nintendo said that the N64 Rainbow Road will be confirmed in the game. Can this be added?
{{unsigned|71.251.231.221}}

I never heard of this. Where did you get that from? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

Never mind, I just found out. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== SNES Mario Circuit 4 confirmed as retro course? ==

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/mario-kart-8-is-gorgeous-fast-and-incredibly-fun The paragraph immediately above the third video from the top mentions it. Add it? [[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] ([[User talk:Luigi-San|talk]]) 08:55, 3 April 2014 (EDT)

:That was a mistake by whoever wrote that since they mention the large U turn being raised. I'm sure it's supposed to be GBA Mario Circuit. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

==GCN Sherbet Land and N64 Yoshi Valley==

In one of the gameplay videos from GameXplain, you can see in Sunshine Airport there's a billboard which shows course names and Yoshi Valley and Sherbet Land can be seen. Here is the link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfLbxmtr9A around 5:37 {{User:YoshiandDaisyrock77}}
::I don't want to be rude: '''But NO. These are (for now) just "MK tracks posters"''' In Mario Kart Wii, there was posters for Daisy's Cruiser in Peach Beach, but Daisy's cruiser appeared at all?? People.should stop to think that  posters.doesn't mean anything [[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=black><big>'''Ashley'''</big></font>]][[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=red>(<small>and Red</small>)</font>]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.png|35px]]

:: Yeah but they were on that destination board with cloud top cruised and sweet sweet canyon. You can check it out for yourself in the trailer {{User:YoshiandDaisyrock77}}
:::It sounds a bit uptight, but let's wait until we get more information. You can never be too careful. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:49, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
::::While I do think that since all the names we discovered earlier from Sunshine Airport were in fact names for Nitro courses, Yoshi Valley and GCN Sherbet Land are high candidates for Retro Courses, I am sure this is still considered speculation and we should wait until this is confirmed. [[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

==3DS Mario Circuit==

In the newest trailer I caught a glimpse of 3DS Mario Circuit. --[[Special:Contributions/204.100.156.5|204.100.156.5]]

Actually, that is the updated N64 Royal Raceway. They added Cherry Blossom trees to the side for much more visual appeal. [[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 18:38, 3 April 2014 (EDT)

== CHECK THAT ==

Check ALL this out [http://www.reinodocogumelo.com/2014/04/assista-aos-novos-videos-de.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+reinodocogumelo+(Reino+do+Cogumelo)&utm_content=FaceBook&m=1 "click here"]
[[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=black><big>'''Ashley'''</big></font>]][[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=red>(<small>and Red</small>)</font>]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.png|35px]]
:The content is in Spanish. :/ Je ne le parle pas. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:04, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
:Interesting. What will we do with the new items? I can't see making an article about them without so much as a name. This is just speculation, but they seem to resemble a Light Box and an 8-based item similar to the Lucky 7...(Also: It's Portuguese, according to Translate. Thanks Chrome!) [[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 19:07, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
::Yep. The site is in Brazilian Portuguese :P.... @Vommack, you translated and understood...or you want my translate??I can do this.... Hardly :P I am kidding [[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=black><big>'''Ashley'''</big></font>]][[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=red>(<small>and Red</small>)</font>]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.png|35px]]
:::Errm, no, I used Chrome's built-in translator. [[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 19:36, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
::See, I told you I didn't understand the language. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:30, 3 April 2014 (EDT)
::Ok... Tranlated and trimmed: ''IGN has just confirmed three new tracks for Mario Kart 8: Donut Plains 3, Rainbow Road (N64) and Sweet Sweet Road. It is confirmed that 2 rainbow Roads will be in this game+ 2 new items: The Lucky7 will return with a modern design, and an item looking like the cannon/light box from SM3DW. '' There are more info... If my translate looks good, I can continue [[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=black><big>'''Ashley'''</big></font>]][[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|<font color=red>(<small>and Red</small>)</font>]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.png|35px]]


If you want me to be honest, why would they bring back the "Lucky '''7'''"? Should't they bring in a "Lucky '''8'''"? (get it?)

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

Well Lucky 7 with a new modern look. Lucky 8? Crazy 8?
[[User:Nintendoplayerawesome|Nintendoplayerawesome]] ([[User talk:Nintendoplayerawesome|talk]]) 19:30, 11 April 2014 (EDT)
:Actually, 8 is considered 'Lucky' in certain areas and countries. (is it China or Japan?) So it could be the Lucky 8. Otherwise we don't know what it is yet. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 22:02, 11 April 2014 (EDT)
::My apologizes: I've translated it wrongly. Truthly, it says: ''An "8" icon with the same function of the lucky 7, unofficionallly called  "Lucky 8"''.{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}

So the lucky 8 will be an item. Cool Nintendoplayerawesome--[[User:Nintendoplayerawesome|Nintendoplayerawesome]] ([[User talk:Nintendoplayerawesome|talk]]) 18:07, 12 April 2014 (EDT)

== Fourth MK game with retro courses? ==

The page says "For the fourth time in the series, courses from previous Mario Kart games will be included"...won't this be the fifth? Super Circuit, Kart DS, Kart Wii, Kart 7, and now MK8?
:Yeah, your right. I better change that. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 06:03, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Although MKSC had retro tracks, I don't think it should be considered  a Retro Returner, if you know what I mean. 


[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
:Why not? It makes courses from the past game(s) return, unless you mean 'turns old courses into a blend for a cup'. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 01:21, 9 April 2014 (EDT)

Super Circuit doesn't count because the tracks in those cups were imported from Super Mario kart. Reused but not counted as retro tracks. --[[User:Nintendoplayerawesome|Nintendoplayerawesome]] ([[User talk:Nintendoplayerawesome|talk]]) 19:27, 11 April 2014 (EDT)Nintendoplayerawesome
:All it's saying is that 'Tracks from past games will be included' not 'have tracks in a retro cup' if you know what I mean. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 17:07, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

== Kart parts info ==

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l2DbaEXVog 1:32, one of the guys confirms the name of the pink car as the "Badwagon", and at 1:50 and also confirmed in GX's Q&A, the wiggler buggy seems to be called the "Wild Wiggler".

http://prntscr.com/372ttb / http://prntscr.com/372xk3 these tires on Iggy's submarine kart... they look like some steel-type sort?
http://prntscr.com/372tzd the tires on her buggy resemble buttons. 

Just thought you guys might want to edit the Kart Parts section. I don't know how to edit the main page easily (new here).

Sidenote- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vVWmGQUXAM this video offers more footage of Sunshine Airport =) [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

:"Seems" to be called? Oh well, I'm going to add these if I can. Thanks. Which one is the "pink" car? The article is vague when describing it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:32, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Anytime. I say "seems" because it hasn't been actually confirmed from Nintendo, but two reliable sources seems good enough. And sorry for not being specific, by "pink car" I'm referring to the one that Peach drove in the second trailer and the one that Roy drove in the 3rd, or as the article describes it: the one that resembles the Flame Flyer / Wild Wing :p. The one with the boombox in the back. 
http://prntscr.com/372zhy -- somebody might want to put an astrix next to the Pipe Frame since Baby Daisy can be seen here driving an orange one [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT) 
:Thanks for specifying. It's really the article that's incredibly vague, so it's not your fault. I'll put up the asterisk as well. Thanks, and make sure you sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:45, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Just fixed the signing my comments thing, my bad. Thank you so much for editing it! Last thing, the "orange bike body that resembles the mach bike" that Rosalina drove in the second trailer is actually the same as the one Larry drove in the third, just with a different color. http://prntscr.com/3736sz , http://prntscr.com/3736mx , http://prntscr.com/37365l the backs of them also match perfectly, so you should probably change the text from "an orange bike" to "a bike" and put an asterix
Thanks for your help =D

Also, a funny thing: http://prntscr.com/3736hn this frame of Rosa's bike from the second trailer actually had the Lemmy's Tire Service thing on it before he was even announced. xD Again, thank you. [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 22:06, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

:It's not bothering me at all, and I like being given something short and simple to do. I think I remember seeing "Lemmy's Tire Service" but these kinds of sponsor don't really confirm the Koopaling thing, but I guess it's a nice basis for hindsight bias. Oh well, thanks! {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:12, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

Haha no prob, I'll update this if I find anything else, and others feel free to as well [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 22:14, 4 April 2014 (EDT)
:Okey dokey, then! {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:15, 4 April 2014 (EDT)

http://prntscr.com/39hu95 these tires look like they have pretty good traction and look pretty similar to the standard ones. Basically blue tires that are similar to the standards.
http://prntscr.com/38lbbv - Hmm. Looks like some flowery type of tires. Idk, it's kind of hard to make out

I hope you guys don't find these pointless, just some things that I found =p There was this other kart that I saw the princesses driving which looked very similar to the Daytripper from MKW, but there were flapping wings in the front of it, and it had a pink paintjob. It seems to act similar to the Birthday Girl in 7 in the sense that probably only female CPU's will use the kart, but I can't find the videos where I first saw it unfortunately :/
[[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 21:50, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
:It's not pointless. Also, I'd like to use this particular kart if it does exist. :P Well, if you find it, please let us know. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:02, 10 April 2014 (EDT)
::The flower tires seen here looks like this game's incarnation of the Sponge tires from Mario Kart 7 {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:37, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
:::I think I found the kart part you may be referring to. In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LnJs9DsOO4 Rosalina's riding a kart that kinda looks like the Daytripper, but with wings in the front. It's hard to see, but I think this fits the description. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::@0:42 you can have a good look at it. Thanks. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:50, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, that video just barely had it so I thought that it wouldn't be a good enough source, along with one from a Cloudtop Cruise and Cheep Cheep Beach footage. [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 19:56, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

== Trivia ==
Is there any trivia for Mario Kart 8? I have some information if you guys want me to put it in. [[User:Luigifan100|Luigifan100]] ([[User talk:Luigifan100|talk]]) 20:15, 12 April 2014 (EDT)
:What'cha thinking 'o puttin'? - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 05:52, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
 It's the first game in the series to have music orchestrated.
::As long as you have proof, you can put it in there. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 08:13, 13 April 2014 (EDT)
Hi I'm new here and I noticed that Dolphin Shoals isn't in the Unconfirmed Cup if you know what I mean, in that yellow Box at the bottom of the Page.
{{unsigned|Billy-Luigi}}

== Diddy Kong? ==

The latest "Revista Oficial Nintendo" dedicated an article about Mario Kart 8 and listed Diddy Kong in the Playable Characters. Can this magazine be considered a reliable source? http://www.hobbyconsolas.com/noticias/numero-260-revista-oficial-nintendo-ya-venta-68594
[[User:Ponyshment|Ponyshment]] ([[User talk:Ponyshment|talk]]) 11:24, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::Yes and No. Because yes, you could put it as a reference, but Waluigi isn't there...so this.could be a mistake: Diddy instead of Waluigi. Also these scans don't look ro be official: They use already released art (instead of exclusive) for the MK8 arts of the wiki. The other ones are the arts used in the later games...so, yes, I think tgat you could...but is at your risk. :P Good luck! {{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}
::::I can't edit this page anyway so I'll let someone else do it if they think it's legit. Since it's an official Nintendo magazine, I think it's not that risky to trust it. Also, Waluigi isn't the only character missing: Donkey Kong, Toad, Toadette and Koopa aren't present on the page as well. I doubt Diddy Kong replaces all of those by mistake. [[User:Ponyshment|Ponyshment]] ([[User talk:Ponyshment|talk]]) 13:29, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::I'll do that for you, then. Also, are you from Spain or Mexico?{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}
:::I'm going to remove it because Waluigi isn't there. Is the magazine really official as it says, or is it just official in name only? {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:54, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::::It's the Official Nintendo Magazine for Spain, but the editor admitted that Diddy's announcement was a mistake. He's still unconfirmed. {{User|Yoshi876}}
:::::Makes me wonder what "mistake" he means. Does he know anything, does he want to avoid potential leaking, or does this deconfirm Diddy Kong? {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:56, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::I think that, just in case, we should leave out Diddy Kong. Unless we can be sure that this was a mistake or an accidental reveal I wouldn't put that on the article just yet. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:::::::Yeah, leave him out until he's announced, because I think we might have more than just 1 character to return. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}}|

==Three Empty Slots?==

In this screenshot this picture shows there are 3 empty slots. I'm not sure if this is real or not but i though you may wanna check it out: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kV-MSEkPGSU/U0vaD8mfz5I/AAAAAAABPEw/FJOSKpNdMQY/s1600/mario-kart-8-roster.jpg  {{User:YoshiandDaisyrock77}}

:It looks legit, and there is another [http://37.media.tumblr.com/bd110cfad30f2a103006fd82741ce477/tumblr_n40vu6J7zx1rtodxxo1_r1_500.png similar image]. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:12, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Hmmm... Diddy Kong IS playable.
{{unsigned|71.251.231.221}}
:Is this image reliable enough to confirm there will be 30 characters in the game? And also, this doesn't confirm Diddy Kong. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::It's definitely real. But we don't know if there will be 30 characters. It's possible there could be a hidden row. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:34, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Or this is an demo/beta screen.{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}
::::This is a demo screen. So it may not be final. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:37, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::Hmmm. Thought as much. Still doesn't confirm Diddy Kong or Bowser Jr. or anything, but I think that we can say it will at least have 30. '''AT LEAST'''. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:00, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::Maybe Bowser Jr. (if he wi'll be playable) is next to all the koopalings. He is after all one of Bowser's Kids to?? {{unsigned|Billy-Luigi}}
:::::::It's funny how The Koopalings (who aren't considered Bowser's kids anymore) where announced and yet there isn't Bowser Jr.(who is considered Bowser's kid). My guess is that Diddy and BJ are playable, can't get my mind about who's the other one. Anyway, I think I should add that there are 30 confirmed, 3 unknown. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:14, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::I'm guessing they just want to show off newcomers for this installment rather than veterans. I removed what you said though since there's a possibility that 1 there might be hidden rows and 2. It's only a demo so it may not be representative of the final game -baby luigi
:::::::::By 'you', mean CrazyMan14, right? But yeah that's fair enough, we should probably leave it for now. Or we could say 'out of a possible
30', similar to [[Mario Golf: World Tour]], but I'm fine with it. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}}
:Well, I think they did not show the full roster, but surprised us with Diddy playable.
{{unsigned|71.251.231.221}}
:Maybe there need to be in the page that there are 30 characters 27 announced 3 TBA???? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 04:00, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, but we'll put 'out if of a possible 30', maybe? Because we know that we have ''at least'' 30. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:04, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

== Dolphin Shoals ==

Hey I noticed that Dolpin Shoals isn't in the Yellow Box yet (in the Unconfirmed Cup together with Bone Dry Dunes) I think you should change that
{{unsigned|Billy-Luigi}}
:Remember to sign your name. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:15, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

How? I'm new here
{{unsigned|Billy-Luigi}}
:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:02, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
::So text and then [[User:Billy-Luigi|Billy-Luigi]] ([[User talk:Billy-Luigi|talk]])? and how do you guys post those Pictures like that Baby Luigi and Mario???? [[User:Billy-Luigi|Billy-Luigi]] ([[User talk:Billy-Luigi|talk]])
:::Yeah, or you can just use the <nowiki>{{User|Billy-Luigi}} template</nowiki> because that's easier to do. The pictures are called [[MarioWiki:Signatures|signatures]], my link shows you how do make them. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:59, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Track Pictures ==

When will they add Pictures of the new and retro tracks? {{User|Billy-Luigi}}

There is a link for the Gallery for this article close to the bottom of the page. There are plenty of pics there. [[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== Mario Kart 8 Tracks ==

Maybe you should start creating Pages of the new Courses in this game? there's already alott of info of some tracks? [[File:Luigi Artwork (alt) - Mario Kart 8.png|link=|35px]][[File:Baby Luigi Artwork - Mario Kart 8.png|link=User:Billy-Luigi|45px]]<sup>[[User talk:Billy-Luigi|<span style="color:green">I'm-a Luigi, number one!</span>]]</sup> 17:45, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

:We can wait a bit longer. Despite the info we have, the layout sections of each new track would still be difficult for some tracks (Dolphin Shoals, Electrodrom). Another thing to keep in mind is it's best to have pictures that best suit the info box and the current photos we have are screenshots of races. Overviews of each track are more suited. Either way, we should still wait. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::Oh Okay {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 03:56, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

== Reference to a non-Mario game ==

I was playing some other games I have, and I thought "The anti-gravity mechanic could've been inspired by Crash Nitro Kart, because I had anti-gravity too." Anyone else agree. --[[User:Mario240|Mario240]] ([[User talk:Mario240|talk]]) 21:46, 15 April 2014 (EDT)Mario240
:We already discussed this matter in one of the earlier articles. Read that, THEN comment on this. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 22:07, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== New Article toughts ==

I've created a new page called [[Toad Harbor]]. Do you guys think it's good or should it be deleted? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 06:56, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:In its current state, deleted. It lacks a description, a course layout, a course map and time trial times. This is why as stated a few sections above this that it is not a good idea to create the articles until the game is released as information needed for them is not available. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::Then can you help me adding the course layout? Because I'm not good at that because I'm not 100% english :/{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:03, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::But It's a good start right? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:04, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::I have other things I need to do, I can't sit through every MK8 Toad Harbor video to try and get a full course layout, as said before create the articles when the game comes out. Draft them in a workpage and when create when all the information that needs to go into the article is available. {{User|Yoshi876}}
:::::Oh okay but can it please stay. This is my first page I created and I'm kinda proud of it? please? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:15, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::: Yoshi? Can the page stay?{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:23, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::: I remember the first page I ever made (duh, it was about a month ago) called [[Mario Golf: World Tour Mii Gear]]. Nobody really edits it, probably because the game isn't out or anything, but if there is 500 items it will be useful. I say we let him keep it, but just this once. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 08:34, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::Thank tou :) {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:57, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::Unless it is expanded, policy says that it ''has'' to be deleted. Seeing as not all info is available the course layout should suffice, but I ask you to wait until the game is released before creating any more courses, and I ask you to make them like how Toad Harbor will look when it's not a stub. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::::::::: So it's going to be deleted :( {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 09:20, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::Not necessarily, it's a got a week for someone to add in a course layout, there's bound to be someone who can. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::::::::::: Kay {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 09:30, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

== Courses ==

Can I put this in here? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:51, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
=== Nitro Courses ===
{| width=100% border=1 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#fff8f8
![[Mushroom Cup]]
![[Flower Cup]]
![[Star Cup]]
![[Special Cup]]
!'''Unconfirmed Cup'''
|- align=center
|[[File:MK8MarioKartStadium1.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart Stadium]]
|[[File:MarioCircuit8.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Circuit]]
|[[File:MarioKart8AirportRunway.jpg|200px]]<br>[[Sunshine Airport]]
|[[File:MarioKart8RosalinaBike.jpg|200px]]<br>[[Cloudtop Cruise]]
|[[File:MarioKart8Peach.jpg|200px]]<br>[[Bone Dry Dunes]]
|- align=center
|[[File:Larry Lightweights MK8.png|200px]]<br>[[Water Park]]
|[[File:ToadHarbor.png|200px]]<br>[[Toad Harbor]]
|[[File:MK8 Larry Lights.png|200px]]<br>[[Electrodrome]]
|'''''TBA'''''
|[[File:MK8 Yoshi StuntBeach.png|200px]]<br>[[Dolphin Shoals]]
|- align=center
|[[File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn05 E3.png|200px]]<br>[[Sweet Sweet Canyon]]
|[[File:TwistedMansion.png|200px]]<br>[[Twisted Mansion]]
|'''''TBA''''''
|'''''TBA'''''
|- align=center
|[[File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn13 E3.png|200px]]<br>[[Thwomp Ruins]]
|[[File:MK8 Bowser Koopalings.png|200px]]<br>[[Shy Guy Falls]]
|'''''TBA'''''
|'''''Rainbow Road'''''
|}

===Retro Courses===
{| width=100% border=1 style="border-collapse:collapse"
|- bgcolor=#fff8f8
![[Shell Cup]]
![[Banana Cup]]
![[Leaf Cup]]
![[Lightning Cup]]
!'''Unconfirmed Cup'''
|- align=center
|[[File:MK8 - Wii Moo Moo Meadows.PNG|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart Wii|Wii]] [[Moo Moo Meadows]]
|[[File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn06 E3.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|GCN]] [[Dry Dry Desert (course)|Dry Dry Desert]]
|'''''TBA'''''
|[[File:Morton Koopa MK8.PNG|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart DS|DS]] [[Tick-Tock Clock]]
|[[File:WiiU MarioKart8 scrn14 E3.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 7|3DS]] [[Music Park]]
|- align=center
|[[File:MK8 Block Course with U 2.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart: Super Circuit|GBA]] [[Mario Circuit (GBA)|Mario Circuit]]
|[[File:MK8SNESDonutPlains3PiranhaPlant.png|200px]]<br>[[Super Mario Kart|SNES]] [[Donut Plains 3 (course)|Donut Plains 3]]
|'''''TBA'''''
|'''''TBA'''''
|[[File:MK8PiranhaPlantSlide.jpg|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 7|3DS]] [[Piranha Plant Slide]]
|- align=center
|[[File:MK8DSCheepCheepBeach.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart DS|DS]] [[Cheep Cheep Beach]]
|[[File:MK8N64RoyalRaceway.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 64|N64]] [[Royal Raceway]]
|'''''TBA''''''
|'''''TBA'''''
|[[File:MK8 - Wii Grumble Volcano.PNG|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart Wii|Wii]] [[Grumble Volcano]]
|- align=center
|[[File:MK8N64Toad'sTurnpike1.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 64|N64]] [[Toad's Turnpike]]
|[[File:Donkey Kong DK Jungle.PNG|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 7|3DS]] [[DK Jungle (Mario Kart)|DK Jungle]]
|'''''TBA''''''
||[[File:MK8N64RainbowRoad1.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario Kart 64|N64]] [[Rainbow Road (N64)|Rainbow Road]]
|}


:Because Nobody answered Yoshi :/ {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 11:30, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:: I just want to be sure if I can add this with permission {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 11:33, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::It looks very good. Put it into the article, if no one likes it, delete it. :){{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}
::::The chart looks good, but the question mark blocks seem a bit unnecessary. TBA can just be put in those slots instead, like we did with ''Mario Kart 7'' before it was released. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:::::That's fine, but I would say that once the game is released we should change the images. If you look [[Mushroom Cup|here]] all the listed courses have their images from the respective game's course selection screen. (Except for the SNES ones which had none, and Luigi's Mansion) [[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
 Nice, but [[Electrodome]] may start the Star Cup. Edit that if possible.
:::::: I added one of the Retro Courses too if you guys like? Is that Okay?{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 16:07, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
For... whoever that was after my last comment... ''may''? Is that an assumption or have you seen that somewhere? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:Also, the Retro courses one is good, but just for reference (I'll fix it myself this time), "Donkey Kong Jungle" is named DK Jungle, using the abbreviation. 
[[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
::Oh Yeah I forgot that :p sorry {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 16:32, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm sure the comment about Electrodrome's placement is just because the official order of the whole cup hasn't been confirmed yet. It could be first, it could be second, we don't know yet. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::Maybe If we find a gameplay video of 
Sunshine Airport, we can see the point roster. And thanks to that we might know if it's first or second? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 17:20, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::: Okay it has been deleted by this user: [[User:Crazyman14]] WHY????!!!!! {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 18:09, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::: See the message I posted on the User's talkpage after your message. While I would like to hear a reason, you should stop freaking out over the fact that an edit of yours was undone.--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 18:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::Okay I'm sorry for freaking out but that Tabel was kinda of a big deal for me and I was realy proud of it. {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 18:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::You know, you need to plan this out a bit better, it doesn't fit in the page. Plus, you also have it ''with'' the rest of the courses section. One needs to go, either the table or the other bit. Try using [[User:Billy-Luigi/Work]] to plan it out, for example you can look at my workspace [[User:Ninelevendo/Work|here]], but you don't need to make it. Any way, if you want to keep it, make it smaller. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:06, 17 April 2014 (EDT)




Hi! Can I rule something out here? I'm pretty sure that, if GameXplain is right about N64 Yoshi Valley being in the game, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be in the Leaf Cup, since N64 Rainbow Road is in the lightning cup.

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]

:But of course random speculation doesn't help make the page better in any way. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:29, 24 April 2014 (EDT)

== "The musical beats that occur when the player is first place also return from this game." ==

I Watched the video of "The musical beats that occur when the player is first place also return from this game (MK7)" and the player isn't first at all?? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 10:51, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:Maybe you're listening to the wrong part? {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:24, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::Then at which part do I need to listen? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:09, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Around the beginning of the third lap. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:12, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::Is it the music when he reached the third lap? because that's from MK7 {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:19, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::If you want another source, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897qphRSls8 here, @ 0:29] too. And no, it's those added percussion that has originated from Mario Kart 7 {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:18, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, it's a remix of the music that plays whenever you're first and comfortably in the lead, not when you're in the third lap. The only reason I showed the third lap is that it's easier to hear there. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:20, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::: Oh I get it, the music when he BECOMES 1st yeah that's from 7 {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:26, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::: I noticed something else too, at the end when he crossed the finish line at the top left corner you see plus 5/6?? What's that??
:::::::::I have no idea, although it could be related to star rankings? I don't know. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:33, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::: I know it, you can choose 6"highlight reels" to be your favourites, at the end of the clip you see it again without the 5/6!{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:34, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::Oh, so they're related to highlight reels? Hm... {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:36, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::::Highlight Reels -_- why don't Nintendo just calls it "replay" -_-{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:39, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::::I guess it's more specific? <sub>P.S. Remember, this isn't a forum for Mario Kart 8; we need discussions about the article, not the article's subject.</sub> {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:40, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Oh! sorry my bad, so can this be added that you can choose 6 Highlight Reels as your favourite? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:43, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::I'd wait until more information is given, because I'm not exactly sure how this process goes. For starters, what really happens if a highlight reel is selected as a "favorite"? {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:44, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Oh okay{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:49, 17 April 2014 (EDT)
== Final 3 Possible Characters ==

I apologize for asking ahead of time. On an official Spanish source, there is information that confirms Diddy Kong as a playable character. Should that information be cited and added onto the Mario Kart 8 page? Lastly, I've seen around the web pages that confirm Funky Kong and Kamek as the other two final characters in the game. Unfortunately, I have no source evidence of the information stated above. Would someone mind looking into what I mentioned?

[[User: FireFlower]]
: I'll look into it, but really have trouble believing that hey replaced BJ, who is a MK veteran, for one of those two. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 21:29, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

I understand but Birdo and King Boo are also a veterans for example. Would it be logical to assume, that Diddy Kong is returning due to the source, Funky Kong of popularity, and Kamek because their is a slot next to the Koopalings? I don't see Bowser Jr. appearing because of the Koopalings.

[[User:FireFlower]]
:Come on, a veteran that has made a playable appearance in almost every series and is Bowser's Kid, getting replaced by them? Anyway, don't see how those guys are in, but do you have any links to those articles? - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 21:40, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

I don't but I can tell you where I saw the link. If you type in "Diddy Kong is unconfirmed after all" click the link and scroll to the comments. In the first comment box there should be a link. It may not work but if it does you'll see what I saw. Thank you for looking into by question so soon by the way.

[[User:FireFlower]]


:No problem, but I still can't find it. If you find and and are able to.make a link, that would be appreciated. Thanks :) - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 23:01, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Will do. In your opinion, do you think their is going to be a baby Rosalina? I ask because if you look at that leaked roster, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina are lined up to each other. Then two rows down, we have Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy and then an empty slot. Do you think that's possible or is it only me?

[[User:FireFlower]]

they probably won't put baby rosalina because baby mario, luigi, and peach are there cause they were characters in yoshi's island series. baby daisy wasn't but she is a counterpart to peach anyway so that really didn't matter. but you never know they might actually read this post and think of yet another big twist in gameplay. I hope this answers that opinion. {{unsigned|60.242.2.211}}

And can y'all stop "speculating" on the characters? Talk Pages are '''not''' the places to discuss this, instead go to the forums. Talk Pages are to discuss how to make the page ''better'', not your "ideas". For example, a source said something about a Baby Rosalina, then ask if it should be added, but this is getting out of hand. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 02:02, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
:He's right, although a ''little'' bit can be said, not a whole paragraph on who you think is there. Me talking about Bowser Jr. is usually just me not seeing why that would happen, and displays my option ''while'' keeping on topic. So have you got any of ye [[Link|links]] yet? Cause I'm thinking your source isn't reliable enough to take into consideration. Sorry, I think I started all that "speculating", so blame me. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:28, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

I found the link and tried to upload it to the website. It didn't work, or I might have done something wrong, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Sorry about the source I found but couldn't do anything with and I'm also sorry about talking about speculation here. I'll be more cautious next time.

[[User:FireFlower]]


We'll just have to see when more info about the game comes out. Also the Miis haven't been confirmed yet either so hopefully those final three slots aren't the last. Maybe there will be several more characters. [[User:Nintendoplayerawesome]]

You can't say that there are only three characters left.  This could just be a demo screen, like at E3.  [[User:Siwel619|Siwel619]]

== Battle mode? ==

I'm not sure whether i'm the only one that realized this but Nintendo haven't released any information on battle mode?
did they take out the awesome coin runners and balloon battle or are they just waiting to give a surprise? {{unsigned|60.242.2.211}}

Sadly at this point we just don't know. What we do know is that there very likely be battle as well as vs modes; this guy in a MK8 preview video said there were 4 modes on the menu, but of course it was a demo so it was locked. Hopefully in the coming weeks we will learn more about battle, as well as online modes. [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 00:36, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

There may possibly a new mode. If there be a new mode, I don't what it would be. Maybe the next video about the game will tell us more. Does anyone know when the next video or batch of information about MK8 will come out or is it spontaneous. 
[[User:FireFlower]]
:The four modes on the menu could just be 1 player, multiplayer, wi-fi and records, so I would wait for more info. And we don't really have any way of knowing when new info is out, so just be patient. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:31, 19 April 2014 (EDT)

== That 8 item. ==

I was reading the page, when I saw that there was an Unknown item, that was exactly like the '8' on the Artwork.
I think this will be like the Lucky Seven, or maybe it is just a placeholder for a new one - much like the MKDS beta Chain Chomp.

Oh, and also: What will this 'Potted Piranha Plant' do? Because, I think that maybe it will attack the player next to you (like mario_course or old_mario_gc in MKDD and Mario Kart Wii, or whatever the file names are), and the other player flips over like in MKDD when getting hit by a Red Shell from the side.

Oh, and have they based the Title Screen or any of the Courses off another game - MK7 had similar title screen to MKDS Beta's SEQ_CIRCUIT2, for example.

This is my first post for a long time on this wiki, because I forgot about my account. Also, I prefer a capital letter at the start of my username now. But I will shut up, because this caused problems on NSMBHD... Sorry I go on too long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- [[User:luigi442wii|Luigi442wii]] (19th April 2014, 2:04 pm GMT (British Summer Time in place)

For the 8 item, either of those could be true, but we can't say anything until we know for sure what it is. The Potted Piranha Plant attacks nearby racers and when it does it can provide speed as well, similar to its recent debut in Super Mario 3D World. (And by "old_mario_gc you mean GCN Mario Circuit, right?) As for the title screen, I'm not sure; I myself have not been to the recent demo so I don't know if they showed a title screen. And what do you mean exactly by Mario Kart 7's title screen being based off of a beta race course? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]


I have a question about the potted pirahna item. First, I noticed it has 2 wheels for karts and ATV's but wht about bikes? Second, what about the anti- gravity section? Does its wheel fold inwards as well?

[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy199]]

I doubt anyone really paid any attention to that detail. If no one has any info on this, we can wait until the game's released. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== I've found something ==

I found this today, maybe it's handy IDK (it's interesting) [[File:MK8selectscreen.png|thumb|1200px|MK8 select screen (demo)]]
: I think we already got this info, but thanks. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 05:18, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
::Oh okay didn't knew that{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 05:23, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
Hmmmm..... the cups may start like Mario Kart Wii
:How do you mean? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 13:03, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
::I think whoever that was (please sign your name when making comments on talk pages) meant that the cups are the same as MK Wii so far. (Mushroom, Flower, Shell, Banana) Although we already knew that for some time now. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== Ten Cups? ==

Found this picture on a Chinese website: 
http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=%C2%ED%C0%EF%B0%C2%C8%FC%B3%B5&flux=1&tid=2997263834&pic_id=c28e212ac65c10380b5c3258b0119313b17e896c&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1
[[Special:Contributions/221.220.179.197|221.220.179.197]] 22:56, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

Nope, someone over at Gamefaqs edited the original pic and added two of those blanked out cups to give us an idea of how the game would look with 2 more cups. The chinese website just managed to get a hold of that, but nothings confirmed yet. Keep your fingers crossed! [[User:Mahdi|Mahdi]] ([[User talk:Mahdi|talk]]) 00:00, 26 April 2014 (EDT)

Nintendo unveiled [[Rainbow Road (N64)|N64 Rainbow Road]], and we know that it's in the Lightning Cup. In the article it says: "The course returns in Mario Kart 8 as the last retro course among all of the retro courses." Whether that is confirmed or not, I'm not sure, but I think it's true seeing as to how MK7's last Retro course was SNES Rainbow Road.

That said, they probably won't add another cup to only the Nitro Cups because in Super Circuit, the [[Lightning Cup]] was created so that there was an Extra version of each Nitro Cup.

Of course, Nintendo could do anything with the game and all of this could be proven wrong, but this is what I think is likely. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

Was that just a mistake?

Was what? The statement I quoted earlier of N64 Rainbow Road being the last Retro course? Or the image of ten cups? Also:

1: Please use double-spacing when making a new comment; you didn't and then the comment appeared next to mine. (though I fixed that this time) and 2: remember to ''sign your name'' (and yes, I realize you're not a regular user.). If you're not sure contact me via [[User Talk:'Shroom64|my talk page]]. I don't think you have your own so I had no other place to say it, but it looked like I asked if "that" was just a mistake, rather than someone else. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== Vehicle part names ==

Someone revealed the names of the parts that are available in ''Mario Kart 8''.

'''Karts'''
*http://i.imgur.com/Fm7kAI3.png Standard Kart
*http://i.imgur.com/FNIUMak.png Airship
*http://i.imgur.com/bLLXfio.png Classical Cat
*http://i.imgur.com/gpZQeUx.png Demon Beat
*http://i.imgur.com/5XqIay1.png G-Force
*http://i.imgur.com/UTFPUZc.png Para-Biddybud
*http://i.imgur.com/Aq5YiD6.png Pipe Frame
*http://i.imgur.com/gb8o6md.png Princess Coach
*http://i.imgur.com/TCJLaQ1.png Sneaker
*http://i.imgur.com/GlmhPbL.png Steel Diver
*http://i.imgur.com/qykxTt7.png Superstar
*http://i.imgur.com/dct6rMu.png Tri-mash
*http://i.imgur.com/C5WXaIF.png Turbo One

'''Bikes'''
*http://i.imgur.com/NcyB0F5.png Standard Bike
*http://i.imgur.com/OQbxgmX.png Broad Bean
*http://i.imgur.com/wUl8DyU.png Burning Bowl
*http://i.imgur.com/vpeNUBp.png Jet Rider
*http://i.imgur.com/qyOlAkD.png Mach GP
*http://i.imgur.com/TWkc5hF.png Maximum
*http://i.imgur.com/UPGNLcY.png Moter Dozer
*http://i.imgur.com/fYSdAO1.png Super Comet
*http://i.imgur.com/2bhplLy.png Yoshi Bike

'''ATVs'''
*http://i.imgur.com/WVHsyS3.png Standard ATV
*http://i.imgur.com/HY6pupZ.png Bear Rider
*http://i.imgur.com/KHvQIqY.png Wild Wiggler

'''Wheels'''
*http://i.imgur.com/DxznJmb.png Standard Tires
*http://i.imgur.com/TT9JCdz.png  ブロックタイヤ (Block Tires)
*http://i.imgur.com/2qCWb5F.png ボタンタイヤ (Button Tires)
*http://i.imgur.com/ktyBogC.png クリームブロック (Cream Blocks)
*http://i.imgur.com/69Guq21.png クッションタイヤ (Cushion Tires)
*http://i.imgur.com/HXWjWi7.png サイバースリッグ (Cyber Rigs?)
*http://i.imgur.com/SWlBGOv.png メタルタイヤ (Metal Tires)
*http://i.imgur.com/EYxUGq5.png Monster
*http://i.imgur.com/y8YVpHA.png ノーマルブルー (Normal Blue)
*http://i.imgur.com/mWzO4UT.png リングタイヤ (Ring Tires)
*http://i.imgur.com/69FeZHe.png Roller
*http://i.imgur.com/QIullUF.png スカイローラー (Sky Rollers)
*http://i.imgur.com/0u09xQe.png Slick
*http://i.imgur.com/xaHOp0I.png スパイシーリング (Spicy Rings)
*http://i.imgur.com/2zXDdM0.png Sponge
*http://i.imgur.com/EzFtLAG.png ワイルドホット (Wild Hot)
*http://i.imgur.com/Oj7edoB.png ウッドリング (Wood Rings)

'''Gliders'''
*http://i.imgur.com/u8DANtM.png Super Glider
*http://i.imgur.com/rCnelpB.png もくもくバルーン (Cloud Balloons)
*http://i.imgur.com/jdSMRDm.png Flower Glider
*http://i.imgur.com/8ft8pYE.png クッパだこ (Koopa dako, can't really translate this)
*http://i.imgur.com/PfBBjG6.png パラフォイルＭＫＴＶ (MKTV Parafoil)
*http://i.imgur.com/w55C8im.png パラシュート (Parachute)
*http://i.imgur.com/7LcyUGW.png Paraglider
*http://i.imgur.com/UeJ83Q3.png Peach Parasol
*http://i.imgur.com/ZXrhDcG.png セイルプレーン (Sail Plane)
*http://i.imgur.com/RRbsjay.png ズングリカイト (Waddlewing Glider)
*http://i.imgur.com/gYe8RZF.png Wario Glider

'''Sources'''
*http://www.mariokartwii.com/6033753-post7.html
*http://www.mariokartwii.com/6033768-post9.html

Some of these names may be subject to change, however. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 10:05, 27 April 2014 (EDT)

True: I notice some of these lack an American English name, which is what we go by for the names of the articles. If these are really official, though, I don't see why not to add that to the article. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

Since the source said that these were the parts in the demo, does that mean that this isn't a complete list? {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:It's not complete, because even in the demo, there was a ? slot in the customization roulette. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:16, 28 April 2014 (EDT)

== ''Mario Kart 7'' Stat System Returns ==

I found a screenshot, which apparently has the vehicles using ''Mario Kart 7'''s stat system, with the visible stats being Speed, Acceleration, Weight, Handling, and Off-Road; I can't understand Japanese, however. Much like with ''Mario Kart 7'', the stat value maximum appears to be 6 if you're going by multiples of 0.25, but if you want to use integers only, then the stat maximum would be 24, with a full bar equaling 4 stat points; 1/4 full = 1; 1/2 full = 2; 3/4 full = 3. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 11:47, 27 April 2014 (EDT)

[http://i.imgur.com/lPtB6Gk.jpg]

I guess this means we can say for sure that the same stat system from [[Mario Kart 7|MK7]] returns then. Nice find! [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
*What we do not know, however, is if the hidden stats will exist again. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 16:23, 27 April 2014 (EDT)

Since both of the mechanics the hidden stats influenced are returning, I think those stats themselves are as well. But who knows right now? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

New screenshot, but for the English region. Grip replaces the Off-Road stat. Also, the following shows Koopa Troopa's default stats when it's using the Standard Kart, along with the standard wheels and glider. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 17:10, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

[http://i.imgur.com/xnyN85I.jpg]

*Speed: 11/24
*Acceleration: 12/24
*Weight: 11/24
*Handing: 17/24
*Grip: 17/24

==Default characters==
Based on some videos I saw with the point count at the end, it looks like these characters will be default:
*Mario
*Luigi
*Peach 
*Daisy
*Yoshi
*Toad
*Koopa troopa
*DK
*Bowser
*Wario
*Waluigi
*Rosalina
Again, these are just guesses.--[[Special:Contributions/24.6.51.22|24.6.51.22]] 21:30, 27 April 2014 (EDT)

What videos were those you saw? [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]

IGN's Mario Kart 8 vs. N64's Rainbow Road, and others which names I forgot.--[[Special:Contributions/24.6.51.22|24.6.51.22]]

Oh ok I hope it'll be that and not a copy of Mario kart wii's roster [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]
:We don't know until it's officially confirmed {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:04, 27 April 2014 (EDT)
::Yes and besides, it is more than likely we haven't seen the last of the characters yet. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

I don't know. Seeing Rosalina as a starter would seem very awkward, seeing as she has always been an unlockable in the past. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 07:19, 28 April 2014 (EDT)
:There's a first time for everything. This discussion is falling on the brink of being forum talk, though, so please cut out the speculation. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 10:14, 28 April 2014 (EDT)

Relax dude, perhaps there should be somewhere to speculate and all that. [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]
:There is, on the Mario Wiki '''Forums'''. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:17, 28 April 2014 (EDT)
::I wasn't angry in the first place. Discussion like "who's your favorite character" or "what do you think is going to be the default roster" is ''not'' allowed on talk page as it is nonconstructive and encourages nonhelpful edits to the wiki. As MarioComix point out, the Mario Boards is for your Mario Kart 8 discussion needs. There's a reason a big green template is on the top of the page, and violating the rule can net you consequences. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:58, 28 April 2014 (EDT)

== Website Updates ==

The official site for. Mario Kart 8 is now online, containing all the information we are missing! -Mario234

Oh. My. Frikkin'. God. DS Wario Stadium, N64 Yoshi Valley,  and GCN Sherbet Land look wonderful! And the new Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road look boss! And Mount Wario looks epic!

Rejoice, Yoshi Valley fans! --[[Special:Contributions/24.6.51.22|24.6.51.22]] 10:28, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

This is a talk page for the article. That kind of comment can go on the Mario Boards. (Sorry if this is coming off as mean, I'm not trying to be) [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== Weight Classes ==

Is there an official source that confirms the size/weight classes that everyone is in?  The contents in the character section of the article seem rather speculative without one. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 13:22, 30 April 2014 (EDT)

:Yep, the official website shows each character and their weight class. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

Is there still no information on who's unlockable? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64:The Mushroomeditor]]

:Nothing I've heard about who's unlockable and who isn't. I would lead to guess that the E3 characters would be default, but we'll just have to wait until something official about it comes up. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Roster ==

Is what we see the final roster? Or will there be more characters?
[[User:FireFlower]]
:Don't know for sure but the Direct acted like it was. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:45, 30 April 2014 (EDT)
: Well hopefully there is more information about it because it looks very subpar. [[User:FireFlower]]
Unfortunately it looks finalized here. [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]

==Music==
How do you upload music from Youtube? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 02:57, 1 May 2014 (EDT)
:There is a way, but I'm not sure if we cover that on this wiki, for legal reasons. Come to my talk page if you want to find out, but things like 3D World wouldn't have music because you can buy soundtracks. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 04:11, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

==Unlockable Characters==

Are you guys sure you know which characters are unlockable and who aren't? [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]
:Uh yes, there's a video in the source about unlockable characters. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:10, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

Someone apparently theorized that characters will be unlocked randomly by competing in GPs. This basically means that if two players clear the same cup, the character that they receive may be different. However, it's currently unclear if that theory is true though. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 08:03, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

== Additional details discovered and confirmed ==

I just found in the new rainbow road track that one of the space stations highly resemble a Blooper. Rosalina's right eye is just barely visible. The crates at Sunshine Airport sometimes deploy item box items i.e, mushrooms. One of the stickers on the crate isnt Gearmo at all! Its what looks like a podoboo. Alongside that sticker is a fragile cup sticker and a "this end's up" sticker. In one of the new screenshots, Toadette's bike highly resembles the princess orange bike, only it seems like it has a different picture on it. I can't really make out what it is from my POV, but it looks like a luma. In the electrodrome track tiles, you can barely see a star carved into them. Also, one question. Why does it say "Baby Rosalina makes her overall debut"? Like I don't seem to understand by the word "overall".--[[Special:Contributions/96.49.137.125|96.49.137.125]] 21:03, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

:This is her debut in the series overall, as in, in the whole ''Mario'' series. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:51, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

::Again, these details can be added to the respective articles one they are made. Also, Rosalina's right eye has always been barely visible if seen at all in her past appearances. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

==Course table change==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|red|DON'T CHANGE 4-7}}

Well, this is an ''aesthetic change'' I would like to do with the table for the courses. I had made a new table, as you can see [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_8&oldid=1671507 here], but an user reverted it and pointed out that other ''Mario Kart'' pages use the current format.

Well...:
*''[[Super Mario Kart]]'', ''[[Mario Kart 64]]'', ''[[Mario Kart: Super Circuit]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart DS]]'' don't use the said format.
**...and even if they did, I don't think it should be a rule that every course listing must look the same.
*About the table I edited, I think it blends in better with the rest of the article.
*If we have to add PAL names, there ''will'' be room for it.
*It takes up less space.
*''In my opinion'', it looks more appealing.

'''Proposer''': {{User|MegaKoopa}}<br>
'''Deadline''': May 15, 2014, 23:59 GMT

===Change it===
#{{User|MegaKoopa}} Well, my proposal. <:)
#{{User|Billy-Luigi}} Wynaut (:p) It's going to be a new way of living
#{{User|Mechawave}} Yes, change it to this, it looks good for once. I try to make most tables look pleasing to the reader, and I couldn't think of anything for the tracks.
#{{User|Koopakoolklub}} Per proposal, and it's way neater.
===No!===
#{{User|Tails777}} The way the table looks now looks fine. This table looks alike to the ones used for MKW and MK7 and those worked out fine.
#{{User|Ninelevendo}} Honestly, this is pretty trivial, and I preferred how it looked early. Had a bit more structure.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} To be honest, I much prefer the current structure. The proposed structure has a confusing track layout; do you read it from left to right or from top to bottom to determine order? The current one is more simple to follow with its straightforward top-to-bottom reading and our point is to provide information clearly. If the proposed table is gonna cause confusion, then we're better off with the less confusing one.
#{{User|Vommack}} Per Tails & Nin.
#{{User|'Shroom64}} I agree with everyone else, and there seems to be no reason to change it. Plus, assuming the images are the same size as the previous template, won't it be wider? I prefer the original template because then it fits the four Nitro cups in a row and the four Retro cups in a row. The proposed template would be a little large.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per all.
#{{User|Breezebuddy25}} - Leave it alone and stay where it is. Per all.

===Comments===
*I like it but I'll need to get used of it :){{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:35, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
**But then the images are way smaller :/{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:51, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
:Well, the images don't need to be big, they are just a preview. If this proposal pass, we can enlarge them a bit. :) [[File:SPM KoopaTroopa.png|35px]] [[User:MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:18px; color:#302b7a;">MegaKoopa</span>]] [[User talk: MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:10px; color:#496dd1;">Talk</span>]] 09:12, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
*<s>Why exactly are you making a proposal for these changes?</s> Nevermind, I saw now because some crybaby talked about the recent Mario Kart games (someone could change the ones for MKW and MK7 to this format too.) It looks very good, enough to the point no one will change its layout. I have changed a lot of things without making a proposal. --[[User:Mechawave|Mechawave]] ([[User talk:Mechawave|talk]]) 13:20, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
:Hold on, unless someone else brought up the tables from the past MK titles, are you calling me a crybaby for bringing it up? If so A. that was uncalled for and B. I'm simply opposing because the table looks fine as it is. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Character and Vehicle Stats ==

I've went through various sources, and was able to design a stat table out of the work. Be advised that the following is incomplete, and will need to be updated as we get more information. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 14:05, 2 May 2014 (EDT)

===Character Stats===
Stat values are out of 24, with 24 being the maximum stat value.

{|border=1 cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0 align=center style="text-align:center"
|-
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Character
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Speed
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Acceleration
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Weight
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Handling
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Grip
|-
!Koopa Troopa
[[File:MK8_Koopa.png]]
|11
|12
|11
|17
|17
|-
!Toadette
[[File:MK8_Toadette.png]]
|11
|12
|11
|17
|17
|-
|}

===Vehicle Part Stats===
Stat values are out of 24, with 24 being the maximum stat value. The default vehicle combo that's used is the Standard Kart + Normal + Super Glider. Parts are sorted by how they're ordered in-game.

{|border=1 cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0 align=center style="text-align:center"
|-
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Vehicle Part
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Speed
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Acceleration
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Weight
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Handling
!width=100px bgcolor="#ddd"|Grip
|-
!colspan=6 bgcolor="#999"|Vehicle Bodies
|-
!Standard Kart
[[File:StandardKartBodyMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Mach 8
[[File:Mach8BodyMK8.png]]
| +2
| -1
| +1
|0
| -4
|-
!Cat Cruiser
[[File:ClassicalCatBodyMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Circuit Special
[[File:TurboOneBodyMK8.png]]
| +2
| -1
| +1
|0
| -4
|-
!Tri-mash
[[File:Tri-mashBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| -2
| +2
| -2
| +2
|-
!Badwagon
[[File:BadwagonBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| -2
| +2
| -2
| +2
|-
!Buggybud
[[File:Para-BiddybudBodyMK8.png]]
| -3
| +5
| -2
| +2
| -1
|-
!Airship
[[File:AirshipBodyMK8.png]]
| -3
| +5
| -2
| +2
| -1
|-
!Sneakart
[[File:SneakerBodyMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Superstar
[[File:SuperstarBodyMK8.png]]
| +2
| -1
| +1
|0
| -4
|-
!Standard Bike
[[File:StandardBikeBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
| +2
| -2
|-
!Sport Bike
[[File:MachGPBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +3
| -1
| +3
| -5
|-
!Maximum
[[File:MaximumBodyMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Burning Bowl
[[File:BurningBowlBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
| +2
| -2
|-
!Varmint
[[File:MoterDozerBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
| +2
| -2
|-
!Broad Bean
[[File:BroadBeanBodyMK8.png]]
| -3
| +5
| -2
| +2
| -1
|-
!Jet Rider
[[File:JetRiderBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +3
| -1
| +3
| -5
|-
!Yoshi Bike
[[File:YoshiBikeBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +3
| -1
| +3
| -5
|-
!Standard Quad
[[File:StandardATVBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| -2
| +2
| -2
| +2
|-
!Wild Wiggler
[[File:WildWigglerBodyMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
| +2
| -2
|-
!Bear Rider
[[File:BearRiderBodyMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!colspan=6 bgcolor="#999"|Vehicle Wheels
|-
!Normal
[[File:StandardTiresMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Monster
[[File:MonsterTiresMK8.png]]
|0
| -2
| +2
| -3
| +3
|-
!Roller
[[File:RollerTiresMK8.png]]
| -2
| +4
| -2
| +1
| -1
|-
!Slim
[[File:RingTiresMK8.png]]
| +1
| -1
|0
| +1
| -2
|-
!Slick
[[File:SlickTiresMK8.png]]
| +2
| -1
| +1
|0
| -4
|-
!Metal
[[File:MetalTiresMK8.png]]
| +1
| -2
| +2
| 0
| -2
|-
!colspan=6 bgcolor="#999"|Vehicle Gliders
|-
!Super Glider
[[File:SuperGliderMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Cloud Glider
[[File:CloudBalloonsGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
!Wario Wing
[[File:WarioGliderMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Waddle Wing
[[File:WaddlewingGliderMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!Parachute
[[File:ParachuteGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
!Paraglider
[[File:ParagliderGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
!Flower Glider
[[File:FlowerGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
!Koopa Kite
[[File:KoopaKiteGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
!Sail Plane
[[File:SailPlaneGliderMK8.png]]
|0
|0
|0
|0
|0
|-
!MKTV Parafoil
[[File:MKTVParafoilGliderMK8.png]]
|0
| +1
| -1
|0
|0
|-
|}

===Header for easy editing===
:Now I'm not sure if it's just me, but the backgrounds for the texts like wheels, bodies etc is all black and that makes it hard to read. Can that be changed and applied to the other tables like the characters and tracks (if said proposal changes) {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::You can always make the color changes when the table is implemented onto the main article. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 14:58, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
Is it me or does it seems odd that the lightweigh characters have to low acceleration? That means that heavyweight only will have 7 or 8 :/. Where did you found these by the wat? {{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 15:55, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Handling is actually called 'Cornering', by the way. But here is the thing that I don't get, why does ''everthing'' have identical stats to each other? Wait until we actually know the stats if the parts. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 17:22, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
:Handling is not called Cornering, that was just the term they used in the Direct. The menu shows it is still called Handling. As for the stats, they are inaccurate for the most part. Please don't add character stats until the game is released. Also it is pointless to give each character their own row for the stats since each weight class has the stats (akin to MK7). In the future I will upload transparent versions of the kart parts as well. --[[User:Mechawave|Mechawave]] ([[User talk:Mechawave|talk]]) 17:28, 2 May 2014 (EDT)
::The sources came from official videos, but if you want to wait until the game is released before adding the materials onto the article, that'll be fine. All that I know is that the information that I've gathered seems to be highly accurate, as I've analyzed the official videos multiple times, but I guess things could change by the time the game is out. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 17:54, 2 May 2014 (EDT)

I'd like the table to be rearranged a bit so readers can have a glance of acceleration, top speed, etc. stats without having to scroll up and down like crazy. Is there a way to do this? Or maybe we can color-code the column. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:31, 3 May 2014 (EDT)

===Character Stat Differences===
Someone has confirmed that characters from the same weight class may not always have the exact same stats. An example can be seen below with Wario and Roy Koopa. Of course, even with the stat differences, the stat totals are exactly the same between them. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 09:15, 4 May 2014 (EDT)

http://i.imgur.com/R7dFjwz.jpg

More evidence of stat differences, based on the findings of the Mariokartwii.com users, Rayze and Nizer. Stat values are out of 6 for the following, which was all done up by the user, Truth. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 12:02, 4 May 2014 (EDT)

Character Stats (standard kart, standard tires, super glider)<br>
Baby Rosalina: 2.25 speed, 3.25 accel, 2.25 weight, 4.75 handling, 4.5 grip.<br>
Shy Guy, Koopa, Toadette, Wendy, Larry: 2.75 speed, 3 accel, 2.75 weight, 4.25 handling, 4.25 grip.<br>
Waluigi, Roy: 4.25 speed, 2.25 accel, 4.25 weight, 2.75 handling, 3.5 grip.<br>
Metal Mario, Pink Gold Peach: 4.25 speed, 2 accel, 4.75 weight, 2.75 handling, 3.25 grip.<br>
Wario: 4.75 speed, 2 accel, 4.75 weight, 2.25 handling, 3.25 grip.<br>

Chassis<br>
- Standard Kart = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.<br>
- Prancer = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>
- Cat Cruiser = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>
- Sneakart = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>
- Mach 8 = +0.5 speed, -0.25 accel, +0.25 weight, 0 handling, -1 grip.<br>
- Sports Coupe = +0.5 speed, -0.25 accel, +0.25 weight, 0 handling, -1 grip.<br>
- Badwagon = 0 speed, -0.5 accel, +0.5 weight, -0.5 handling, +0.5 grip.<br>
- Tri-Speeder = 0 speed, -0.5 accel, +0.5 weight, -0.5 handling, +0.5 grip.<br>
- Buggybud = -0.75 speed, +1.25 accel, -0.5 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.25 grip.<br>
- Landship = -0.75 speed, +1.25 accel, -0.5 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.25 grip.<br>
- Circuit Special = +0.5 speed, -0.25 accel, +0.25 weight, 0 handling, -1 grip.<br>
- Pipe Frame = ?<br>

- Standard Bike = 0 speed, +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>
- Yoshi Bike = 0 speed, +0.75 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.75 handling, -1.25 grip.<br>
- Jet Bike = 0 speed, +0.75 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.75 handling, -1.25 grip.<br>
- Sport Bike = 0 speed, +0.75 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.75 handling, -1.25 grip.<br>
- Super Comet = 0 speed, +0.75 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.75 handling, -1.25 grip.<br>
- Varmint = 0 speed, +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>
- Flame Rider = 0 speed, +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>
- Broad Bean = -0.75 speed, +1.25 accel, -0.5 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.25 grip.<br>
- The Duke = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>

- Standard Quad (ATV) = 0 speed, -0.5 accel, +0.5 weight, -0.5 handling, +0.5 grip.<br>
- Teddy Buggy = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>
- Wild Wiggler = 0 speed, +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight, +0.5 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>

Tires<br>
- Standard = 0, 0, 0, 0, 0. = 2.75 speed, 3.00 accel, 2.75 weight, 4.25 handling, 4.25 grip. (Koopa)<br>
- Monster = 0 speed, -0.5 accel, +0.5 weight, -0.75 handling, +0.75 grip.<br>
- Slick = +0.5 speed, -0.25 accel, +0.25 weight, 0 handling, -1 grip.<br>
- Roller = -0.5 speed, +1 accel, -0.75 weight, +0.25 handling, -0.25 grip.<br>
- Slim = +0.25 speed, -0.25 accel, 0 weight, +0.25 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>
- Metal = +0.25 speed, -0.5 accel, +0.5 weight, 0 handling, -0.5 grip.<br>
- Cream Blocks = 0 speed, 0 accel, 0 weight, 0 handling, 0 grip.<br>
- Wood = -0.25 speed, +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight, -0.25 handling, +0.5 grip.<br>

Gliders<br>
- Wario Wing, Waddle Wing, Plane Glider, Super Glider = 0<br>
- Cloud Glider, Flower Glider, Bowser Kite, Parafoil (MKTV), Peach Parasol, Parachute = +0.25 accel, -0.25 weight.<br>

That's cool. But why is "(Koopa)" next to the stats for the Standard tires? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:It was a goof-up by the user who made that list; it was removed some point after I posted the stats here. Also, the Roller wheels' weight boost is actually -0.5 (out of 6). {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 16:15, 4 May 2014 (EDT)

Mariokartwii.com member, Usashi, has revealed the full character stat list. Stat values are out of 6, and all characters have the same stat total; 17 in this case. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 09:17, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

http://i.imgur.com/x5YoBRM.png

Great! I think this info can be added to the article. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

:Uhh can someone tell me what the grip is for this game? Is it like off-road or something? {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::Grip is most certainly off-road. If it isn't may I be stripped of my electrical powers. And no, it isn't drift. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:26, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Alright, thanks. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

I actually think that grip is going to be more like what it was in Mario Kart 64 (Or was it super circuit?) where it measure how the players slide when turning and how well they can get a "Grip" on the road. I think offroad was more how fast you go off the road. - {{User:Toadbrigade5}}

== Japanese Release Date ==

Some mistake has been caused under release dates. Japan's release date for the game is May 30? No, actually it's May 29, 2014. Please fix that.--[[User:Tryloubliss|Tryloubliss]] ([[User talk:Tryloubliss|talk]]) 14:29, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
:There's an inconsistency in the article anyway, so I corrected it. Thanks. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:33, 3 May 2014 (EDT)

==Where's The Mario Kart TV section?==
Upon studying this picture: [http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mk8online16.png]
:It only makes sense that videos will finally be able to be uploaded to Miiverse! If it was being uploaded to Youtube it wouldn't have had the drawn comment on the bottom of the screenshot. I didn't want to randomly make a new heading because I don't know where to add "Mario Kart TV". There's quite a bit of info about it from the Direct, with more to come from the Official MK8 websites. {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 16:44, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
:I thought it's a given that videos can be put in Miiverse. :P {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:10, 3 May 2014 (EDT)

::At this time only Developers/Nintendo Staff can attach videos to their Miiverse posts. (Example: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlSLtyzvQ).

::Video-uploading to Miiverse (by everyday users) was incorrectly thought of happening, when the NES Remix 2 site said, "This all-new feature [Replay] lets you see recordings of your runs through each stage, as well as other players' replays via Miiverse™." This however didn't mean videos could be uploaded to Miiverse.

::Mario Kart 8 looks like the real deal. Which is why I asked about a Mario Kart TV section. {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 17:21, 3 May 2014 (EDT)

==Mirror Mode confirmed==

Watch Gamexplain's Qand A video at 23:19 and Andre confirms Mirror Mode. [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome.]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BNSMaOzPSM

:Now that I think about it, I was the one who asked the question on Mirror Mode, yet I never thought to put it up here :P. But in more construction terms, he also claimed that it's unlocked form the start so there's no need to unlock it for this game. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

::I remember though, that he said "at least for Vs." so it's not confirmed for Grand Prix, is it? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:::It is also used in GP mode, too. [[User:Breezebuddy25|Breezebuddy25]] ([[User talk:Breezebuddy25|talk]]) 07:09, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

==Since when is this game a direct sequel to Mario Kart 7==
Just because it's "Mario Kart 8" doesn't mean it's a direct sequel. It doesn't even have four 3DS courses! Sure it has most of MK7's stuff, but just because it worked and needed polish. I don't know why Nintendo would label this gem as a sequel to such a sloppy entry in the series. [[user:mariosonic444]]

Maybe a sequel to both Mk7 and Mk Wii? It sort of looks like it. [[User|Nintendoplayerawesome]]

1. I wouldn't say MK8 is a ''sequel'' to 7. 2. Who said it was a sequel!? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

None of the games in the Mario Kart series are really sequels to each other. They have ''similarities'' to each other maybe, but they can't really be called sequels. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

==NEW Trivia (Mario/Luigi)==
:Cool, so this is acually the first time that Mario and Luigi are in another class (now=cruiser) should this be noted in the trivia section?{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 10:48, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

::It could be but I'm not sure because the main reason for that is the Cruiser class didn't exist until Mario Kart 7. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

== Stamp ==

Can anyone upload the stamps of this game? I saw lots of stamps (or what looked like stamps) in the secret miiverse communities. The ones I saw: Mario in a kart, Mario upside down in a kart, Mario in a bike, Rosalina in a bike, Miis in karts,spiny shell, gold shroom, sound bix and the crazy8 {{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}

:I can link the images, and then someone can edit the stamps out. {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 14:49, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::<s>https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR5FgpokvNwdU6 https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR5DN6oAGD2d3D https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR5CtVc19BrcLX https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR5CTpks8bZeTu https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR44NE8vuIsGaJ https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR422HgFyQf0Rc https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR42rxc30emvNt https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR42owYxKEBEBR https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR42oWYDnoPBgz https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR42ZzomsJOUvp https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR411JMCHEWygL https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR41cGAzq9Nwoj https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR41UNMa-WSKzI https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR41RMAwW2MbHW https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4nl_AFDDJ_Ln https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4nnGgcK-tD8-</s>
 {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 14:55, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

EVEN MORE:
<s>https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4XUQYptGeYQS
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4cfAIIuFIBPw
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR31uWAzyuDjGD
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR34F_Muprvn9c
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4XbuoqhM0CXz
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4WpjQ_EiD2oW
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR3_BBQtY69gPN
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR3_0koY_DJ77A
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4NhA4N5xmoES
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4VzvU1MxjBQA
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4fcpwNZosswe
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4ODR0l_VUaEP
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4MKs0hK6c7ck
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4EOrAbatXbsR
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4Bid87XqH4AV
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4BQSYN0NQHe5
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4fd-MOSkMwuM</s>

Looks like there are stamps for all characters in sideview...{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}
::Anyone here has an Miiverse account? I was wondering to upload new satmps from Mario Kart 8 (Secret's community) in the wiki. Here we have all the ones listed [[Stamp (Mario Kart 8)|here]].{{User:Ashley anEoTselkie/sig}}

:::I have a Miiverse account. I'll keep an eye on the MK8 community. {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 23:11, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

:::: Here are a few that haven't been uploaded to the page: <s>https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4ZvZs1E6WGh- https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4ULgM_HdV5SD https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzR4PzMYkSH9BUU</s>
 {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 23:32, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::You guys should really label the links because I don't like having to constantly check if we uploaded or not by requiring to constantly clicking on the links.... {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:43, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::I'll strikethrough the ones that have already been uploaded. I have been adding links to the Stamp (MK8) Talk page instead. {{User:Agentdave7/Sig}} 19:46, 9 May 2014 (EDT)

== Weight Class Name Issue ==

A Smash Boards user who goes by the name of Z'zgashi is claiming that the Cruiser class's position is supposed to be for Donkey Kong, Waluigi, Rosalina, and Roy, and NOT for Mario, Luigi, Iggy, and Ludwig. Maybe we should alter the names of the weight classes to something more like the following. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 14:56, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

{|border="1" cellpadding="3" style="background:#f5f5f5;text-align:center;width:70%;border-collapse:collapse" align=center
|-
!colspan="6" bgcolor="#9c9c9c"|Character Stats
|-
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Weight class
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Speed
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Acceleration
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Weight
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Handling
!width="10%" bgcolor="#dedede"|Grip
|-
!title="Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Lemmy" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Feather</span>
| 2.25
| 3.25
| 2.25
| 4.75
| 4.5
|-
!title="Toad, Koopa Troopa, Shy Guy, Toadette, Lakitu, Wendy, Larry" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Super Light</span>
| 2.75
| 3
| 2.75
| 4.25
| 4.25
|-
!title="Peach, Daisy, Yoshi" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Light</span>
| 3.25
| 2.75
| 3.25
| 3.75
| 4
|-
!title="Mario, Luigi, Iggy, Ludwig" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Medium</span>
| 3.75
| 2.5
| 3.75
| 3.25
| 3.75
|-
!title="Donkey Kong, Waluigi, Rosalina, Roy" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Cruiser</span>
| 4.25
| 2.25
| 4.25
| 2.75
| 3.5
|-
!title="Metal Mario, Pink Gold Peach" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Heavy</span>
| 4.25
| 2
| 4.75
| 2.75
| 3.25
|-
!title="Bowser, Wario, Morton" bgcolor="#ededed"|<span style="border-bottom: 1px dotted">Super Heavy</span>
| 4.75
| 2
| 4.75
| 2.25
| 3.25
|-
|}

I'm not too sure, while it does seem right since Rosalina and Donkey Kong were Cruiser class in 7, I would wait on that because that user may be wrong. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:Yes, go ahead. This is more fitting to the characters anyway. --[[User:Mechawave|Mechawave]] ([[User talk:Mechawave|talk]]) 15:42, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

== Character Weight Classes ==

On the Mario Kart 8 site under Drivers, it shows that there are 3 weight classes rather than 7. Here is a link to the site. [http://mariokart8.nintendo.com mariokart8.nintendo.com]
:The problem with the website is that it's not accurate on the stat distributions that each character uses. Because characters from the same weight class don't necessarily use the exact same stats in this game, people need to be aware of that. This is why this article is splitting the weight classes. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 16:17, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

== Inside Drifting Changes ==

A [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3v8amOGKBs recent video made by GameXplain] has revealed that certain bike bodies have an inside drift feature, but it's not entirely like the inside drifting from ''Mario Kart Wii''. So far, it's been confirmed that the Sport Bike has this inside drift feature, but not the Standard Bike. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 18:26, 8 May 2014 (EDT)

:So when the game's released we can add which ones are inside and which are outside. Also the difference is that it goes outwards for a second before going inside. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
::I played a demo, and the Jet bike also has an inside drift. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 21:11, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
:::There is a diffrent Bike Logo next to the kart part name when it's inside drift in the kart part selection screen. So: You can see in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhVuLuLpaR8 Video about customization] that the Comet, the Sport Bike and the Yoshi Bike are inside drift. Standart Bike and The Duke are outside drift. I think the Varmint and "Broad Bean" are also outside drift because you can see how they drift in Trailers and Gameplay footage. And the Jet Bike should be inside drift. {{User|Mic}}
::::Here's the info that I've managed to gather from the video that Mic posted. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 15:41, 9 May 2014 (EDT)

{| border=1 cellpadding=1 cellspacing=0
|-
!width=100px|Drift Out!!width=100px|Drift In
|-
|Standard Bike||Comet
|-
|The Duke||Sport Bike
|-
|Flame Rider||Yoshi Bike
|-
|}

== Beta Elements ==

So I was wondering when the Beta Elements will come, in 3D world you already had Beta Elements when the game wasn't released yet. I already found one= [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naXCGrnO7kU Mario Kart 8 Wii U 2 Player Demo at E3 2013] The [[Toad Harbor]] Music was much diffirent at the E3 Demo 2013.{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 11:50, 9 May 2014 (EDT)

:I'm not sure how you managed to hear the music from the game in that video, but I played the E3 Demo at a Best Buy event and recorded the whole thing and I didn't notice a chance in music. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::Oh okay I tought I heard something else but did you find any elements?{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 14:16, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
:::I've noticed a few beta elements, such as the banner in Toad Harbor had a Galaxy Air logo instead of the Flower Cup logo. Also in the E3 Trailer, the anti gravity section in Thwomp Ruins was just a normal section and the finish line wasn't on the straightaway directly after. I'm sure all this will get put down when a page is created. If you feel you can supply enough information then you can create the page now, though I'm not sure if we create those pages after the game is released or not. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
::::I have a WIP page for it actually. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:39, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
I also saw the fact that the only gliders were the Super glider.
:That's ''not'' a beta element {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:44, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
::Anything to do with what the demo was restricted to doesn't really count, because for example, the first trailer had more courses than the demo. [[User:'Shroom64|'Shroom64:The Mushroomeditor]]

Lots of the music has been re-done (Listening to [[Mario Circuit (Wii U)|Mario Circuit]], [[Sunshine Airport]], and [[Electrodrome]], I noticed some of the instruments have changed. A saxophone has been added onMario Circuit, parts of Sunshine Airport's theme now have more violin, and the synthesizer in Electrodrome is far heavier.) This proves that the decision to change most of the music to orchestrated was somewhat late on in development, just before the [[Rainbow Road (N64)|N64 Rainbow Road]] trailer. (Although speculation, and shouldn't be added, I think this might be why Cheep-Cheep Beach, DK Jungle, and Grumble Volcano got left behind, due to the change being late on.) [[User:CompliensCreator|CompliensCreator]] ([[User talk:CompliensCreator|talk]]) 11:58, 11 May 2014 (EDT)

==More Gold Parts?==

Apparently user Jhonatan2 knows that there are more parts, and that a gold bike has inside drifting. Any proof? [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 16:28, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

Not that I know about. Do you know where he got that from? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]

:No idea. [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 20:18, 10 May 2014 (EDT)

::It's possible that someone thought the Sport Bike in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDGOFjkYTU this video] is a Gold Bike, but it's just Pinkgold-Peach with the female special varnish of the Sport Bike. {{User|Mic}}

:::Still doesn't explain where the Gold ATV and Gold Glider came from. [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 09:02, 11 May 2014 (EDT)

Unless there's a source that confirms the Gold Bike, Gold ATV, and Gold Glider, they shouldn't be on the article yet. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 09:29, 11 May 2014 (EDT)

:Argh, I'm trying to remove it but each time I do, it messes up. Also do we have confirmation that the Broad Bean is called "Mr. Scooty"? [[File:Spiny_Shell.png]]'''<span style="color:#0000FF">[[User_talk:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169]]</span>'''[[File:Spiny_Shell_Reverse.png]] 17:19, 11 May 2014 (EDT)

==Question==
I have a question: I want to add a Picture off Shy Guy in the Biddybuggy but it isn't an image yet if you know what I mean. Its on you this Video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h16c0YIWlXc] on 0:54. Thank You{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:33, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
:Put the video into high quality, then full screen it, print screen it, copy and paste it into an image editor where you can save it and make sure you resize it so it is the same size as other gameplay images. {{User|Yoshi876}}
::I don't have an image editor :( How do you get it?{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:38, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Not even something like Microsoft Paint? {{User|Yoshi876}}
It worked here it is : [[File:ShyGuyBuggy.png|150px]]{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 07:45, 11 May 2014 (EDT)

== Unlocking Criteria ==

Found this info on the Mario Kart Wii.com forums: http://www.mariokartwii.com/threads/136618-Character-Unlocks

Apparently, character unlocks are random, I'm not sure whether you can play a already beaten Grand Prix and unlock another character or if the Mii is unlocked randomly as well.

Unlockable characters can appear as CPU's even if you didnt unlock them yet{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 08:27, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

:Hmm, I didn't know that, but what I'm saying is that the "Unlocking criteria" table isn't needed since characters are randomly unlocked. As one user said: you could unlock Lemmy at 50cc Mushroom Cup while another person unlocks Lemmy at 150cc Star Cup and etc. You might be able to have the full character roster completed before even starting 150cc. [[User:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="purple">SuperPiz</font><font color="blue">zaLuigi</font>]] [[User talk:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="red">(talk)</font>]] 08:50, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

::Perhaps instead of jumping to the conclusion that characters are unlocked at random, we wait until we can officially see cause I doubt there will be a random unlocking criteria. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:::I am pretty sure that unlocks will not be random because the additions to the roster will be random and then things can get awkward like unlocking Pink Gold Peach before Metal Mario. Toadbrigade 5

::::Alright, I'm not so much saying it's for sure, but he did say that they are random in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKRtYK5cmo the video] (people who speak German confirmed it). Also, someone asked what character he unlocked at the end and he said it was Lakitu, this is for the 150cc Mushroom cup if you want to add it. I understand if you want some photographic evidence instead, though. [[User:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="purple">SuperPiz</font><font color="blue">zaLuigi</font>]] [[User talk:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="red">(talk)</font>]] 02:54, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

:::::Alright, it seems GameXplain has confirmed that it is random. [[User:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="purple">SuperPiz</font><font color="blue">zaLuigi</font>]] [[User talk:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="red">(talk)</font>]] 04:13, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

== Mii weight class ==

It's listed as any, but that's been like that before we found out there are 7 weight classes. With these additional weight classes, does this mean the Mii can be Super Heavy/Feather/Cruiser/Super Light and not just Light, Medium and Heavy? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

:According to a chart I saw above containing the racer's stats, there are only 3 Mii Weight Classes. {{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} 21:30, 12 May 2014 (EDT)

::Well then if that chart is true for the game, the Mii weight class should be changed to Light, Middle of Heavy instead of Any or we wait to see if maybe they can be all weight classes. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Are all the Karts actually karts? ==

I having trouble believing that ninetendo would confirm so many karts and not many ATVs. I think that maybe a few of these karts might be ATVs, but we don't know it... I am checking videos to see if I can find one of the female racers in the bike suit on a kart but I am exspecially suspicious of the BiddyBuggy, since Buggie where the original name of the ATVs. Toadbrigade5
:Well Kart is kind of the general term. {{User:Misty/sig}} 21:47, 12 May 2014 (EDT)
::I think they are classified as karts in the article because it has been stated so, or perhaps if not, because they look more like karts. The "buggy" in Biddybuggy might just be part of the name. [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:::ATVs have a special sign next to the name in the customization screen and you can see in videos that only the Standart ATV, the Teddy Buggy and also the Wild Wiggler have that special logo. I think that's also the reason why Nintendo didn't confirmed them in the december direct where the Standart ATV was first seen in a trailer, because they had no ideas for ATV-styled vehicles. {{user|Mic}}

== Mario Kart 8 - "Upside Down Test" Commercial ==

Here's a recent commercial for Mario Kart 8, apparently some people have started seeing it on television: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXNYmkc-88g] {{unsigned|SuperPizzaLuigi}}

We can add that as a reference, but it has no new info. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

== Unlockable Vehicle parts ==

Recently, a german YouTuber released the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKRtYK5cmo first part of his Let's Play] and you can see that he didn't play the game before because he didn't beat any cup in the game. So: He also didn't unlock any kart parts. At 01:42 in this video, you can see that the Standart Kart, Mach 8, Badwagon, Biddybuggy, Standart Bike, Sport Bike and Standart ATV are already unlocked. Also the Standart, Monster, Roller, Slim and Wood tires and the Standart, Parachute and Parafoil gliders are available. Should we add that to the "Kart Parts"-section in the main article? {{user|Mic}}

Wait, the European release is the same as the North American release date; May 30th. The game hasn't even been released yet there, or anywhere for that matter, so how did he get his hands on an MK8 disc before the release? [[User:'Shroom64|-'Shroom64: The Mushroomeditor]]
:It's probably those privileged bloggers/reviewers/whatever who has access to the game first. But yes please add it to the article {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:23, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

== Blue and Yellow Toad ==

What are images of a blue and yellow toad in space suits doing in the gallery? Are they just spectatators for rainbow road or what? {{unsigned|Toadbrigade5}}

I would think so. The image must have had something to do with Mario Kart 8 to be in the gallery. They may be supporting characters that we will see throughout the game, but I really don't know. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

Seems like you 2 didn't watch the MK8 direct, the 2 Toads are present in the Wi-Fi mode. Possibly Rainbow Road too.
Donaldthescotishtwin

See, that's what I thought, because one image had both of them in front of Earth (which MK has affiliated with Wi-Fi for obvious reasons) but I decided not to mention it. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

==Countdown timer changes==
What is the difference between the countdown timer in the E3 2013 demo and the full game? [[User:Breezebuddy25|Breezebuddy25]] ([[User talk:Breezebuddy25|talk]]) 10:05, 14 May 2014 (EDT)

==Controls==
I made a lazily crafted table image with the controls based off of the video someone took of the manual. Should this be something that gets turned into a table or should we wait until release to make a table for it? [http://i.imgur.com/h7Q8ia6.png Table of Controls]; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P0Zd6_zElw Source Video of Manual]. Hopefully both of those links work. [[User:Xalugami|Xalugami]] ([[User talk:Xalugami|talk]])
:I think we can if more people approve of it. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
::Maybe it's better to wait for the release. How did someone get the manual for an ''unreleased game''? {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 18:57, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Review copies have been distributed a while back for important reviewers; see below.[[User:Xalugami|Xalugami]] ([[User talk:Xalugami|talk]]) 19:19, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

If it's from the manual, there's no reason not to post a table now. It's not like the control scheme is going to be changed due to a Day 1 patch or something. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 19:35, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

I can confirm that everything on my table image works as anticipated (minus the U-Turn since the demo was Battle-less), but with the addition of Tricks being able to pull off by either hitting 1/B '''or''' simply waggling the Wiimote for both of the latter 2 control options. [[User:Xalugami|Xalugami]] ([[User talk:Xalugami|talk]]) 15:36, 19 May 2014 (EDT)

== Vehicle stats ==

How were the stats for vehicle parts and characters retrieved? The game hasn't been released ''anywhere'' yet! I don't understand how that can happen and it's really bothering me. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 19:09, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
:The full game has been out for a week or two and distributed only to review sites or important personalities that cover video games (ex IGN, GameXplain, etc). As far as I'm aware there was no NDA for any content besides the review embargo which lifted 16 hours ago.[[User:Xalugami|Xalugami]] ([[User talk:Xalugami|talk]]) 19:19, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
==Gamestop Demo==
They said a Mario Kart 8 demo will be held there this weekend. Can this be added to the advertising section?
{{unsigned|71.251.231.221}}

Go ahead, I don't see why not. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:He can't add that, he's not even a member. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 17:39, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

Oh, okay. I'll add it in then, and hopefully I'll be able to get there so I can add more info about it. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:Actually, I think we should wait until there's more details. One thing though; The E3 demo wasn't counted as advertisement. So I actually think now that this demo wouldn't be either. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:They already had heaps of Demo events in Australia and New Zealand, and I wouldn't count them as advertising. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 18:29, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

==New commercials with new tests==
I just saw two new commercials for the game with two more tests on Nintendo's YouTube Channel. Take a look: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqEpNRFaaFU Crazy Plunge Test], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvJFV8tbDfg Piranha Plant Test] [[User:Breezebuddy25|Breezebuddy25]] ([[User talk:Breezebuddy25|talk]]) 18:30, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

I found out about two more, based on the other two new items: Super Horn and Boomerang Flower tests. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:I can do that. Take a look: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RgwB8efn5g Super Horn Test], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibzbuXsAM-c Boomerang Flower Test] [[User:Breezebuddy25|Breezebuddy25]] ([[User talk:Breezebuddy25|talk]]) 18:33, 16 May 2014 (EDT)

== Should Bone Dry Dunes have a hyphen? ==

I don't think it should, because it is a possibility that this is just a translation of the Japanese game for the reviewers and the fully English version wasn't finished in time.  And also on the official Mario Kart 8 website, there is no hyphen.  Should we keep it there?  [[User:Siwel619|Siwel619]]
:The article itself doesn't have the hyphen either, so I'm going to change it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 00:05, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

== I'm not able to edit the page? ==

Why am I not able to edit the page? There's only the "view source" tab and no "edit" links next to the headlines in the article. So why the page is protected an d why can other users still edit the page? I registered months ago so I'm not a "new" user who cannot edit half-protected pages. [[User:Mariofan13|Mariofan13]] ([[User talk:Mariofan13|talk]]) 00:56, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

:You've only made two edits including the one you made on this page; if you make three more, you should be able to edit the page. - [[User:Turboo|Turboo]] ([[User talk:Turboo|talk]]) 00:59, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

== Weight Class names and Trivia ==

Hi, I think we need put the cruiser, super light, feather, super heavy etc. back in it. Because now they will think that for example Waluigi weighs the exact same as wario. In the Mario Kart 7 page they don't have all the same weight because there is feather, light, medium, cruiser and heavy. And on the official site it's just stated how large they are. One more thing, the trivia of the Unlockable cpu's is correct watch this video and you'll see several koopaling driving. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKRtYK5cmo]{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 03:03, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
:The reason why we reverted back to the light, medium, and heavy categories is because that's how the official website has the weight system set. Until the game is officially released, only contents from official sources can be inputted. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 07:56, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
::So then why are there multiple listings of "light", "medium", and "heavy" in the character stats table? Should that be fixed? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:::It doesn't make sense, and needs to be keep the way it was before, otherwise it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 08:24, 17 May 2014 (EDT)

== Gamestop Demo ==


I just went to the GS demo, should I give any details or it that completely unnecessary? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:What were the details?[[File:MK8 Luigi.png|link=|45px]]<sup>[[User talk:Billy-Luigi|<span style="color:green">I'm-a Luigi, number one!</span>]]</sup>[[File:MK8 BabyLuigi.png|link=User:Billy-Luigi|42px]] 01:55, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
::As in characters, tracks, etc. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:::Yeah I guess so, if nobody deletes it afterwards[[File:MK8 Luigi.png|link=|35px]]<sup>[[User talk:Billy-Luigi|<span style="color:green">I'm-a Luigi, number one!</span>]]</sup>[[File:MK8 BabyLuigi.png|link=User:Billy-Luigi|35px]] 07:48, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
::::Okay, this is what I got:

The playable modes were '''Single''' and '''Multiplayer'''<br>'''All 30 characters''' were available<br>The vehicle parts including these but this may not be complete:<br>Bodies: Standard Kart, Mach 8, Circuit Special, Biddybuggy, Standard Bike, Jet Bike, Standard ATV<br>Wheels: Standard, Monster, Roller, Slim, Wood<br>Gliders: Super Glider, Waddle Wing, Peach Parasol, Parachute, Parafoil<br>Courses: Mario Kart Stadium, Waterpark,  Sweet Sweet Canyon, Mario Circuit, Toad Harbor, Sunshine Airport, Electrodome, Cloudtop Cruise<br>Also, the demo was fixed to 100 or 150cc, I'm not sure which.

If anyone else has been to the demo and finds something missing or wrong, please let me know. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:That's Great I think you should put it there! [[File:MK8 Luigi.png|link=|35px]]<sup>[[User talk:Billy-Luigi|<span style="color:green">I'm-a Luigi, number one!</span>]]</sup>[[File:MK8 BabyLuigi.png|link=User:Billy-Luigi|35px]] 13:19, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
:The Prancer, Badwagon, and the Sport Bike are also available kart parts. I also saw the Airship and the Pipe Frame but they were NPC only. The demo was 100cc. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:19, 18 May 2014 (EDT)

Okay but where would it go? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

Don't add it, it will become irrelevant in a week and a half when the game comes out.  [[User:Siwel619|Siwel619]] ([[User talk:Siwel619|talk]]) 19:49, 19 May 2014 (EDT)

== Character Roster change ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|red|DON'T CHANGE 3-15}}

This is just my opinion but I think the weight classes of the characters should be diffirent.
I've made this but it got deleted several times. [[user:Billy-Luigi/work]]

'''Proposer''': {{user|Billy-Luigi}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 1, 2014, 23:59 GMT

===CHANGE IT:===
#{{User|Billy-Luigi}} It's more fun to read it and then you can see who's in what weight class before watching the table under it.
#{{User|Ninelevendo}} Having three classes of "Light" etc. doesn't make sense, even if the names aren't official. At least change it to "Light-Light", "Light-Medium", etc.
#{{User|Koopakoolklub}} Per Ninelevendo.

===LEAVE IT AS IT WAS:===
# {{User|Tails777}} It's been changed cause the official website lists Light, Medium and Heavy. Feather, Super Light, Cruiser and Super Heavy aren't confirmed names. It should stay like this and if said names are confirmed, we can change it.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} We don't use these names not because they're less accurate or anything, but they're explicitly unofficial by Nintendo, as in [http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/drivers/ here]. Those terms are coined by unprofessional members of a random Mario Kart centric forum; why should those names get priority over the ones Nintendo has? The terms are nearly exactly alike to those kart names we gave in the ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart 7]]'' pages that were deleted because the names were also unofficial. As I said in my revision, "''This weight class nomenclature is unofficial; it's not listed in the official website. It's much better to organize the latter table than use unofficial conjecture names''". By using this method, not only will we keep the official names but we also acknowledge the existence of such characters specific stats. This is the method I entirely prefer since it avoids conjecture names altogether while keeping the character specific stats in check.
# {{User|MKguy7}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|'Shroom64}} Per Baby Luigi and Tails777.
#{{User|Toadbrigade5}} Seven weight classes is far too much. Not even Mario Kart 7 went that far
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Icemario}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Whybee}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Siwel619}} Per Baby Luigi.  In the direct, they said Baby Rosalina was a lightweight, not a featherweight.
#{{User|Marshal Dan Troop}} Per Baby Luigi
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per all.
#{{User|Burb}} Per BabyLuigi. The word of Nintendo should be taken above that of a fan-operated message board.
#{{User|Mario}} peor baybyw bodlguigi
#{{User|Stonehill}} Per Baby Luigi. It's not confirmed yet, so ''why add it''???
#{{User|JF}} They're unofficial names, and not very clear ones at that.

===COMMENTS:===

I made a new table we can add in [[User:'Shroom64/work|here]]. One question though; is it possible to merge the cells so that "light" goes for two cells, et cetera? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

@Triple M. It does matter if it's fanmade or not, we don't cover fanmade material here. {{User|Yoshi876}}

With my new table the issue of two lights, two mediums and three larges should be fixed. Is it good? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

@Princess Rosaluma: That's why I created the new table (link above) to resolve the issue of that kind of confusion; I just have to figure out how to make sure there's one cell for "heavy" but still making it cover all three groups. If I can figure that out the issue's fixed. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:But if that table wasn't there and you would look above it, the section with the default characters and unlockable ones, the you would propably think that for example Toad has the same stats as Baby Mario because now its stated that they are both light. Thats why I think its a better Idea to put frathr in it too. {{User|Princess Rosaluma}}

What happened to the 7 weight classes that were listed on here? [[Special:Contributions/99.130.48.58|99.130.48.58]] 16:38, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
:I removed them. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:28, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
Ok, since many people oppose, why not just remove weight classes from that table anyway? Why do they ''have'' to be there if it's already clear that some characters in the same weight class have different stat boosts? It states what weight class each character is in the sections directly above and below. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 16:43, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
:We should at put "Light-1" or "Light-Light" to make it make more sense. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 17:39, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
::Which ''exactly'' why using conjectural names is a problem. The minute I saw stuff like [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_8&diff=1679552&oldid=1679447 this] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_8&diff=1679584&oldid=1679559 this] I knew it was a terrible decision because this random user (no offense!) who named it "Fat" isn't any less credible than a more experienced user who named it "Cruiser" and "Mid-Heavy". Edit wars over these names are stupid in nearly all ways possible and if we continue to use conjectural names like this we will continue to have meaningless edit wars over it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:35, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
:::I second Triple K's suggestion. We should just remove the weight class names from the table. The background colors and the fact that the weight class names are listed just above it are good enough, no need to re-iterate it. - {{User:Burb}}
::::Agreed. I removed the names from the table. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:00, 19 May 2014 (EDT)

Hey guys, I figured out the problem with my table and now it's fixed. If you don't want to scroll up for one second, [[User:'Shroom64/work|the link is here]]. My thoughts are it's completely unnecessary to put "Cruiser", etc. when Nintendo hasn't confirmed that name, which is what every opposing person seems to agree on. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:Looks good. The only problem is the cell color for the weight classes but I know how to fix it (I even left a message on your talk page saying how to fix it).{{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:00, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
::If we're going to go to the length if TPP, why not just remove the names altogether? The colours can stay and such, but shouldn't we just remove it altogether, considering the confusion some readers may have? Or do you'all just think we keep it like it is now? - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 02:49, 25 May 2014 (EDT)
:::I don't think it's confusing. To me, it looks like readers could tell that "Oh, Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Daisy, Baby Rosalina, Lemmy, and a light Mii are all in the "light" group in weight class, ''but'' they have different stats from Toad, Koopa, Shy Guy, Lakitu, Toadette, Larry and Wendy. They have different stat boosts even though they're all light."<br>I think my table is the best way to go because it still makes it clear who's light, medium and heavy without the use of fan-created names but still splits the weight classes into respective groups. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
::::Just a slight suggestion then, should you make the heavier lightweights have a darker blue, same going with the other weight classes? - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 07:42, 26 May 2014 (EDT)
I still don't think the weight classes need to be on the table! Can someone tell me why they think it should be? I mean, the classes for characters are '''already on the sections above ''and'' below.''' It just seems redundant. {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 19:48, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:That is true, but:<br>The above section labels the characters with the weight classes, more in the char. select screen's order.<br>The section below doesn't use the weight class names but actually labels the size of the body frame, using instead the names for (technically) Mario Kart Wii's size classes. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
::To add on to that, the above list is a character list, not a weight class list, so it's not organized by weight class, but, like I said above, in the order used in the character select screen. (Minus the fact that starters and unlockables are separate.) {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
Wait, I'm confused. What are we voting on? {{User:JF/sig}}
:This proposal was created because of the debate with fan-made weight class names like Super Heavy and Super Light, but as far as we know it's only Light, Medium and Heavy. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
::Hmm. So we can't remove proper info, but we can't give fake names either. At least the different colours I suggested would help a ''little'', but that's probably me being biased. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 18:17, 30 May 2014 (EDT)

== Track images? ==

I found these on the Mario Kart 8 site using inspect element and I was wondering should we upload these and use them as track images or should we wait until we find bigger images?

[http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/img/tracks/cup-01-01_mariokart_stadium.png Mario Kart Stadium]
[http://mariokart8.nintendo.com/img/tracks/cup-08-03_grumblevolcano.png Grumble Volcano]

Every track image is on the site as well. {{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} 20:59, 21 May 2014 (EDT)
:Typically we use the images on the course select screen for track images. Do you know if these are course select icons? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

== Mario Kart TV section / Page with all the changes and discontinued featues? ==

Isn't there going to be a section for Mario Kart TV? It's major feature of Mario Kart 8.
Here is the [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmeAV1sIUAEX-a1.png Logo] (I couldn't upload...).

Anyone besides me interested in a page which highlights all the features a specific Mario Kart game introduced. Also include the features from the previous game(s) which aren't in the game anymore. Just an easy list with the changes.

I shall upload the picture{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 12:50, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

I believe we won't have a section for Mario Kart TV because [[Mario Kart TV|there is already an article for it]], so we don't need many details on this article. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

At least refer to the article, like the Stamps section? Any comments on my other suggestion? --[[User:DonnaxNL|DonnaxNL]] ([[User talk:DonnaxNL|talk]]) 15:51, 24 May 2014 (EDT)
:It says this in the "Gameplay" section: ''"It has been confirmed that there will be Miiverse integration, which will allow players to share their replay videos and comment on others' videos, in a feature called [[Mario Kart TV]]."'' So I don't think we need that. The stamp section is basically rewording of what is said at the top of its own article anyway. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

== NASCAR as promotion and advertising? ==

Should the [[Mario Kart 8]] wrap on the NASCAR car be included in the promotion and advertising section or is that overkill? I can't edit it in as I'm relatively new. Here's a link http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/23/5745594/mario-kart-8-nascar-matt-kenseth [[User:Starman99|Starman99]] ([[User talk:Starman99|talk]]) 04:17, 25 May 2014 (EDT)
:Definitely {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 14:07, 25 May 2014 (EDT)

== Time Trials ==


Should we start a Time Trials Staff Ghost section since the game is almost out? Like, just make a table with the course names and fill it out with the staff ghosts when the game comes out? {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}

I just did.  [[User:Siwel619|Siwel619]] ([[User talk:Siwel619|talk]]) 22:24, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

== Mercedes-Benz DLC ==

No lie, check this out: 
http://www.mariokartwii.com/threads/137339-Free-DLC-this-summer-confirmed-get-a-kart-based-on-a-Mercedes-car
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=229298
It's a free DLC Kart being released this summer based off the new Mercedes-Benz GLA. [[User:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="purple">SuperPiz</font><font color="blue">zaLuigi</font>]] [[User talk:SuperPizzaLuigi|<font color="red">(talk)</font>]] 03:08, 29 May 2014 (EDT)
:You're right, I found a screenshot of it. I gotta say it looms a bit stupid, but Callaway in World Tour makes this beleivable. - {{User:Ninelevendo/sig}} 03:27, 29 May 2014 (EDT)

== Rival Order ==
What exactly is the table of rivalry particular driver? And how come the info? –N-liker

I'm starting to think that there is no actual rival order, and the rivals are chosen at random, as Lakitu was never present when I used Rosalina. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 15:16, 31 May 2014 (EDT)

So it's actually nonsense and we can underline the table –N-liker

== Gold Glider ==

Can anybody here who has the Gold Glider replace that awful pixellated eyesore of a mess that it looks like right now in the parts section? I can't even make anything out of it.
:GameXplain posted a video showing all the gold parts{{User:Billy-Luigi/sig}} 03:30, 1 June 2014 (EDT)

== Rivals ==

I know Wendy is Lemmy and Waluigi, but don't know the order. {{unsigned|198.144.198.170}}

== Unlocking the Mii ==

The strategy guide says the Mii is always eighth.  What's the source for gold in all cups in one engine class? [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] ([[User talk:Thanos6|talk]]) 03:24, 1 June 2014 (EDT)

Since there's 8 cups in one engine class that means the same thing --[[Special:Contributions/68.229.85.209|68.229.85.209]] 18:32, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
**But not if, for example, you play 4 cups in 50cc then jump to 100cc and do 4 cups there.  That's NOT the same. [[User:Thanos6|Thanos6]] ([[User talk:Thanos6|talk]]) 23:03, 1 June 2014 (EDT)

==Expert Staff Ghosts?==

I was wondering for sure if there are expert staff ghosts. i unlocked the gold wheels by beating all the normal staff ghosts and on cloud top cruise i beat the normal staff ghost by 11 seconds and there was no sign of an expert staff ghost. {{User:YoshiandDaisyrock77}}

== Cups and Characters ==

"Characters are unlocked at random by completing cups, unlike previous Mario Kart games,..."

''How'' many cups to get a new character? One? Two? {{User:Koopakoolklub/sig}} 19:52, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
:Based on gameplay footage, I've seen a new character get unlocked every time one completes a cup. If there are any restrictions, though, I'm not sure. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:20, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
::I don't think there are any restrictions. I play the cups in order, and by the 100cc Banana Cup I got Larry as my last unlocked character. {{User:'Shroom64/sig}}
:::You unlock a character every time you beat a cup ''for the first time''. If you re-beat the 50cc Mushroom Cup, you will not unlock anyone. [[User:Peanutjon|Peanutjon]] ([[User talk:Peanutjon|talk]]) 12:20, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

== Item Availability ==

After playing through most of the cups, I can confirm a bit regarding the items available in first.

Red Shells are
Green Shells are
Bananas are
Super Horns are
Coins are


Triple Bananas are NOT
Boomerangs are NOT (At least in my ~200 races leading almost every race start to finish, I have had none)

[[User:Jademalo|Jademalo]] ([[User talk:Jademalo|talk]]) 13:55, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

== Controls ==

The 1 button drifts on the Wii Wheel as well as the B button (as per testing it myself and the control screen on pause). I'd change it but I'm horrid at tables. [[User:Peanutjon|Peanutjon]] ([[User talk:Peanutjon|talk]]) 15:22, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

==Comet==

The Comet does not change colors depending on character. It is always red. should i change it? {{User:YoshiandDaisyrock77}}

== We are now the top Google result for "Mario Kart 8 Stats". Shouldn't we include the hidden ones in our table? ==

There are a list of hidden stats in the game that aren't included on this page yet, but do influence the karts/drivers on various different types of terrain.

Here's a link for more information. I would edit it in myself but I don't know how.

http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=229556

http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2014_5/tem.png

That table has some major flaws that really question if it's trustworthy. For one thing, not all stat values are divisible by 0.25, and the heavyweights are supposed to have weaker handling; this would have to mean that their stat totals are actually lower than the lighter characters. Likewise, the Monster and Hot Monster have mistakes with their stats, as they have a -0.5/6 acceleration boost, and a +0.5/6 weight boost. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 16:35, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

== Item Order ==

Is it really necessary? We don't have item order on any other Mario Kart game article. --[[Special:Contributions/69.244.174.29|69.244.174.29]] 16:58, 2 June 2014 (EDT)
:No it's not. I'd like to delete it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:36, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

:I also think the information is completely false, considering many gameplay videos I've seen on YouTube have people getting Triple Mushrooms in second and third. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:43, 2 June 2014 (EDT)

== Items ==

I've seen some people in second get stars. As far as the Lightning Bolt is concerned, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get it in first. That's all for now.  --[[User:AeroBlaze777|AeroBlaze777]] ([[User talk:AeroBlaze777|talk]]) 18:51, 2 June 2014 (EDT)