Talk:Blindfold Boo

Did I do something wrong?

Did I did something wrong I only remove this → 'a boo'? (A user revert my edit) Uh-oh!! Princess Grapes Butterfly 20:57, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

How come I never saw this in ANY of my play throughs and I've had this game ever since it came out, man! --Boo Luigi 09:26, 5 June 2009 (EDT)

Japanese name

Any source of the Japanese name? From what I can tell, it was randomly added three months ago, and no one bothered to check it. From what I can tell, it's from Japanese Wikipedia. Niiue (talk) 19:34, 20 December 2015 (EST)

A while back, 2257 added a whole slew of Japanese names for the YS enemies. Recently, when I asked him about his source, he responded with, "probably wikipedia tbh," and without a better source, I removed the translations. This didn't stop Tailikku from using the JP Wikipedia as a source again and reinsert some of the translations. Frankly, any of his edits involving Yoshi's Story and translations should not be trusted (excluding the three that he actually gave a source for). Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Merge to Boo Man Bluff

Should we merge this to Boo Man Bluff? From what I read on this page, they have the same attack methods and the only thing that differentiates it is the appearance.--^(TALK) 21:40, 17 April 2016 (EDT)

I believe they can stay separate just from different appearances and different names alone. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:56, 18 April 2016 (EDT)

Super Princess Peach

In Super Princess Peach, Blindfold Boos are never seen individually and are instead found as walls moving from one side of the screen to the other, which is totally different behavior from an individual Blindfold Boo in other appearances. Since enemy crowds like Boo Buddy Swarms and Fuzzy Hordes have their own articles, should the same be done for the unnamed Blindfold Boo swarms? LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:05, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

In the games which feature those, there is also an individual version with which to be distinct with. The crowd/wall of these is the only type of Blindfold Boo in the game. In the game's coding, it's worth noting that they each use individual graphics, and are simply piled together by the game itself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

LinkTheLefty what's the codename for the Blindfold Boo sprites? -- FanOfYoshi at 02:40, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

Split Teresa no Taigun from Blindfold Boo

This talk page section contains an unresolved talk page proposal. Please try to help and resolve the issue by voting or leaving a comment.

Current time: Thursday, April 10, 2025, 02:56 GMT

Blindfold Boo is an enemy introduced in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. As its name suggests, these are blind Boos that attack Yoshi by the sound that he makes. These enemies reappeared in Yoshi's Story, where they maintain their behavior but have a slightly modified appearance.

In Super Princess Peach, there is an group of enemies consisting of a large group of Blindfold Boos called Teresa no Taigun in Japanese, these enemies rapidly and relentlessly chases Peach.

While these enemies are obviously Blindfold Boos, their organization and behavior differ greatly from a Blindfold Boo.

Blinfold Boos move slowly toward the player's position based on their sound, stopping when they reach the place where the sound is coming from.

While Teresa no Taiguns, will chase the player quickly and without stopping .

I think there is a clear goal here to create a type of enemy in large numbers, inspired by other Boo formations such as Boo Crews and Disappearing Boo Buddys, while also being a predecessor of Fuzzy Hordes from Super Mario 3D World, Wonder Gnawshers from Super Mario Wonder, and Munchers from Donkey Kong Country Returns.

Because his Japanese name id different, and because of their differences in mechanics and inspirations from other Boo formations, I think spliting them from the main Blinfold Boo article while still maintaining their appearance would be ideal.

This would also fix the comparison, as it can be confusing to some that Blindfold Boo is comparable to Wonder Gnawsher, because if you look at their primary mechanics, they have nothing in common.

Proposer: Sorbetti (talk)
Deadline: April 22, 2025, 23:59 GMT

I see (Support)

1. Sorbetti (talk) Per proposal.
2. EvieMaybe (talk) a singular freestanding enemy and a giant chasing wall are different things, no matter how they're diegetically justified.
3. Nelsonic (talk) This feels like a Fuzzy/Fuzzy Horde situation to me. Per proposal.
4. Hewer (talk) Per LinkTheLefty's findings in the comments.
5. Arend (talk) Horde of enemies with a different behavior, plus a different Japanese name? Sure, split 'em.
6. ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per Fuzzy Horde being split.

I don't see (Oppose)

1. PrincessPeachFan (talk) So? They're just Blindfold Boos with a slightly different effect.

#Hewer (talk) Per Doc's comments, this feels more like a case of the same enemy with different behaviour for a different game.

Where i am (Comments)

The swarm also only starts chasing after Peach makes noise. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:55, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

From what I can see here they start chasing Peach as soon as she comes out of the pipe.Sorbetti (talk) 21:07, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Pretty sure it was because she started running, thought the Gloom-requiring ones may be an exception. Most only start when noise is made. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:09, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

I'm 99% sure that they move as soon as you enter the screen because I've a pretty vivid memory of annoying friends by accidentally leaving my DS on, making Peach say "ouch" endlessly because she doesn't run out of health. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:24, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Again, not only they do the same behavior as before, but they don't even move any faster than their Shriek Mansion version, as the article mentions. Sorbetti (talk) 21:16, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

The ones in 3-3 and 3-5 move slow enough that I don't think that gameplay video caught them; 3-9 is a postgame stage, so it makes sense to use the harder version there. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:19, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

I was totally unaware of that, thanks~ Sorbetti (talk)

Per policy, the title of a split page would be "Blindfold Boo swarm" (with "swarm" not capitalised). Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 08:42, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

addedSorbetti (talk) 09:46, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Actually, their official name is specifically...「テレサの大群たいぐん」(Teresa no Taigun, Boo Crowd)! LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:19, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

So the guide consistently treats that as the subject's proper name? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:43, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Very consistently, except for the last time they're mentioned here where they're Teresa generically, probably to save on ink because it's a cramped text blurb. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:24, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

@PrincessPeachFan Let me see, we have Fuzzy Hordes, Wonder Gnawsher, we also have Boo Crews and Disappearing Boo Buddys, they are all on their own page because they act differently and are recognized that way. Blindfold Boo Swarm does not have an official name so having their own article would not be entirely conjectural, also from everything I included in the proposal, it seems to me that you did not even take the time to read it.Sorbetti (talk) 09:46, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Those all appear alongside their singular forms in their games. This does not. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 09:59, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Yes, you're right, however, the fact that he doesn't have an official name raises suspicions. I also think a page for him would fix the "comparability" with Wonder Gnawsher would be useful. However, I would like PrincessPeachFan to elaborate a better argument for why they shouldn't be separated.Sorbetti (talk) 10:19, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

I don't see the issue there; they both chase while swarming like a wall of Langoliers. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:31, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

That's the problem Doc. When we refer to comparable with Wonder Gnawsher, do we mean Blindfold Boo in general, or just this Blindfold Boo formation?Sorbetti (talk) 10:35, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

@Hewer We don't have any source or name that considers them just blindfold boo, it would be conjectural and confusing to keep them merged. At least, while having them in their own article is also conjectural, the comparable would be easier to understand. Keeping them separate until name confirmation would be ideal as long as they remain on the main page.Sorbetti (talk) 13:53, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

We could just remove that "comparable" thing if it's such a big issue (though it does apply to one third of this enemy's few appearances). If the argument is to split because no sources call them "Blindfold Boo", I don't understand why the split article would be called "Blindfold Boo swarm". Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 16:16, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

It wouldn't be helpful because it would still be confusing, because there's a Wonder Gnawsher-like variant that isn't comparable. Blindfold Boo Swarm's name is only descriptive, like all the other conjectural names. Think about it, it's better to have its own article so it can be compared to other similar enemies.Sorbetti (talk) 17:06, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

I don't think making the "comparable" bit in the infobox a little bit clearer is enough of a compelling reason to split one of this enemy's appearances from the others. And my problem with the conjectural name is that it describes the subject as a swarm of Blindfold Boos, despite one of your arguments being that we have no source for them actually being Blindfold Boos. If this passes, will the Blindfold Boo page still mention that it appears as a swarm in Super Princess Peach with a link to the split page? Or will the Super Princess Peach ones not be considered the same thing as Blindfold Boos at all? If it's the latter, we might be better off with a more generic conjectural name along the lines of "blindfolded Boo swarm". Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 19:12, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

You've misinterpreted the entire proposal.

I don't want to separate Blinfold Boo Swarm from Blinfold Boo completely. It'll be like Goombas. In the SMW section, although Goombas don't appear, a variant of them does.Sorbetti (talk) 20:13, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

@Hewer @Doc von Schmeltwick @PrincessPeachFan LinkTheLefty found that the official Japanese name for these enemies is Teresa no Taigun = Boo Crowd, while normal Blindfold Boos name is Mekakushi Teresa = Blindfold Boo.

Now, they definitely deserve to be split up or have their own page now. Thanks LinkTheLefty.Sorbetti (talk) 20:13, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

My pleasure. (Just remember, "Teresa no Taigun" should be the page title.) LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:24, April 8, 2025 (EDT)