Category talk:Aliens

Why Don't we make a sub-section for SMRPG bosses? Max2 (talk)

I don't think they are really aliens. Pixl Power

Moon Cleft

Should the Moon Cleft be added? it does live on the moon in space in PM2. Isyou 19:05, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

You can also find it in The Pit of 100 Trials too though. -- Sir Grodus

Oh. Well then, what about that gray variety of the X thingys? I dont think they are in the pit of 100 trials, and there on the moon. Isyou 19:08, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, could probably add them. -- Sir Grodus

Super Mario Galaxy characters

Some characters in Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 are aliens. Examples are Dino Piranha and Major Burrows. Why aren't they in this catagory?
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tails777 (talk).

Well, you can just add them. The alien definition is very broad, and the characters fit the definition. If someone doesn't agree, then discuss with him or her. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:11, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Too broad

I think this category should be for things from outer space only, rather than space plus all the non-Mushroom World/Earth dimensions. People/creatures from Subcon and Smithy's Factory have nothing to do with each other or with actual "space aliens" other than the fact they all originate from somewhere other than MW/E; seeing as Subcon and Smithy stuff can both be navigated with templates and categories of their own, all they're really doing here is cluttering up the only way people can find all the space aliens. Plus, if these two groups of extradimensional beings are considered "aliens", almost the entire cast of Super Paper Mario should be here too for consistency's sake - but for navigation's sake, I say we go the other way and remove the non-space aliens instead. If no one opposes in the next couple days, I'm going to do it (and if someone opposes and we can't talk it out, I'll make a TPP, but I'm hoping it won't get dragged out like that: we're only really talking about the semantics of the word "alien" here, after all). - Walkazo 11:37, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, I think so too. It would have a ton of things on it if it included all non-Mushroom World characters. Pixl Power

Super Mario Galaxy

Okay, so, a lot of Super Mario Galaxy stuff is in this category. While I understand why, it seems kinda odd to say these bees are aliens, this orca is an alien, these wood people are aliens... Blinker (talk) 11:40, March 9, 2022 (EST)

Agreed. Perhaps it can be trimmed to the subjects/groups explicitly called aliens, like Ota Rock? LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:35, April 16, 2022 (EDT)

Don't forget the signposts and the color variants of the otherwise-Earthly Chomp! Given the Galaxy duology's plots involve Bowser invading outer space, the alien status of much of the new enemies may be a bit ambiguous. The Octoombas, Roctos, and their ilk can definitely be considered aliens, due to their likely basis in the cephalopod-like depiction of aliens commonly seen in Japanese media. ShootingStar7X (talk) 22:44, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

This always bugged me. Ones like the Octo Army, Topman Tribe, Mandibug Clan, and even the Montys to an extent make sense, but MANY of the things on here are otherwise just very non-alien variants of pre-existing things. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:55, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

Do you think making this a subcategory of Category:Super Mario Galaxy species, Category:Super Mario Galaxy enemies, etc. could help? While these categories also include entities from Mario's planet, you could technically consider them "aliens" to the galaxies they're visiting... SolemnStormcloud (talk) 14:41, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

That still feels a bit too "Category:creatures that appear in planets other than Earth", I think. Blinker (talk) 10:00, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Even those you mention, they might technically fit the definition, since they are first appeared in the Galaxy games, and aren't directly based on any preexisting enemy, but consider Clampy. It also first appeared in Galaxy, and wasn't directly based on any preexisting enemy, and it has since become a recurring enemy. It doesn't have the aliens category. Bat, on the other hand, was forgotten for around 13 years and has the aliens category, but has since appeared in the movie, in not-space. That's the thing, most of these things could just... appear in a new game. And then it would be awkward to keep calling them aliens. And I think, if all that it takes for one of these to stop belonging in the category is for it to reappear, then maybe it shouldn't be here in the first place. Blinker (talk) 18:33, December 30, 2023 (EST)

Agh! Dangit. I just realized I said this should be a subcategory of Category:Super Mario Galaxy species, Category:Super Mario Galaxy enemies, and the like, when I meant to say those categories should be subcategories of this. SolemnStormcloud (talk) 12:05, November 16, 2023 (EST)

Fellow Earthlings of the Super Mario Wiki, I hereby pose two questions: if humans colonized Mars and began a new civilization there, would any of their offspring born and raised there be considered "aliens" by us? And, what if a supposed alien moves to Earth, starts a new life, and naturalizes itself here? Whatever your answer is to this dumbass inquiry could probably decide which Mario characters we'd consider to be aliens on this wiki. My proposition is: if a Mario enemy is derived from an established enemy, but only appears in a setting outside of Mario's planet, then it's an alien; if, on the other hand, an enemy is introduced in that "outer" setting, but later games and media establish it to be endemic to Mario's planet, then it's not an alien any more. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:12, December 30, 2023 (EST)

That sounds like a good idea, but what articles would it affect? Besides the aforementioned Clampy and bat, I can think of the Fizzlit in Super Mario 3D World and the Prickly Piranha Plant as a temporary transformation of the Piranha Plant in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Also, why did I read your comment in my head with Orbulon's voice? SolemnStormcloud (talk) 12:35, December 31, 2023 (EST)