MarioWiki:Proposals

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then start to discuss on the issue. 24 hours after posting the proposal (rounding up or down to the next or previous full hour, respectively, is allowed), the voting period begins. (The proposer is allowed to support their proposal right after posting.) Each proposal ends at the end of the day one week after voting start. (All times GMT).
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
  4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. The voter can remove or rewrite his/her own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another User's vote lies solely with the Administrators.
  5. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
  6. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  8. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  9. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
  10. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
  11. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
  12. Proposals cannot be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
  13. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in GMT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Monday night at 23:59 GMT, the deadline is the night of the Tuesday of the next week at 23:59 PM. If it is posted a minute later, the deadline is 23:59 PM of the Wednesday of the next week, since midnight is considered to be part of the next day, as 00:00 AM.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example how your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Voting start''': [insert a voting start time here, f.e. "2 January, 2010, 14:00". Voting start times are 24 hours after the time at which the proposal was posted, as described in Rule 2 above.]<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the voting start, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on anoother user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".




Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

How To

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages effected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. There is no 24 hour delay between the posting of a talk page proposal and the commencement of voting.
  4. Talk page proposals may closed by the proposer if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
  5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

Remove Fake Bans/Warnings

OK, now that I royally screwed up my last proposal, let's try this again:
On more than a few userpages, I have seen ban notices saying a user has been blocked by ruling of Wario's Butt or something of that sort. These are immature, a waste of space, and can cause you to do a double-take before reading on and finding out that the user wasn't banned, they are just being extremely immature. So now that I've done this properly, let's get rid of this crap.

Proposer: Ralphfan (talk)
Voting start: 2 September 2010, 00:00 GMT
Voting closes: 9 September 2010, 00:00 GMT

Support

  1. Ralphfan (talk) – Per proposal.
  2. Marioguy1 (talk) - *sigh*, here we go again. Anyways, those templates are annoying. They are warnings and are not to be toyed with.
  3. Tucayo (talk) - These make sysops job much more difficult.
  4. Fuzzipede27 (talk) - Per all
  5. New Super Mario (talk) get in my way. Per Proposal
  6. Turtwig A (talk) I agree. They are official templates and even if the wording and terms are changed, it could still easily confuse new users if they get one of those templates.

Oppose

Comments

Now that I've realized the full effects of my other one, let's just get on with this. Ralphfan (talk)

I'm not sure navboxes are covered under this either, since they aren't an imitation of any real template. Actually, what exactly is the definition of a fake template? That doesn't seem to be clarified anywhere in this proposal. Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)

This only covers ban notices and warning notices. Navboxes are OK. Ralphfan (talk)

Yeah, I tried to write that in the original version of this and it didn't work right >_> Twentytwofiftyseven (talk)

So, will the other one get deleted? Tucayo (talk)

Once enough admins agree, I guess. Ralphfan (talk)

@2257: To answer your question, a fake template is when a user uses the HTML code for the template rather than the template itself. That way, you don't see the list of pages that links to it on the bottom. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Can this include fake maintenance templates too? Booderdash (talk)

Except the Under Construction, because users usually don't finish everything at once. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

@MrConcreteDonkey: {{construction}} isn't allowed in userpace. Ralphfan (talk)

BLOF: No, nothing uses HTML code on a wiki, it all uses wikicode. HTML code is kind of the same yet very different. Anyways, yes, that is a fake template. No, that does not include userboxes due to {{Userbox}} which is a real template with parameters. However it does include all fake construction templates, fake infobox templates and fake warnings. Marioguy1 (talk)

Removing Did You Know

I haven't been on the MarioWiki in a while, but I know there have been quite a few proposals for the main page. But I have yet another one, this time on the trivia section of the main page "Did You Know?". I have never understood the purpose of this section, as all it's for is to state bland info about random games, characters, etc. I doubt anybody is interested in it, and quite frankly, since it's updated every week, there is so little trivia left. And if you guys were willing to remove the featured images, I don't see why you wouldn't want to remove this.

Proposer: Reversinator (talk)
Voting start: 29 August, 2010, 13:00 GMT
Deadline: 5 September, 2010, 24:00 GMT

Support

  1. Reversinator (talk) Since I propoposed the proposed proposal, I suport the proposal I proposed.
  2. Booderdash (talk) Pretty useless. I never found it interesting anyways. Its trivia are usually obvious. And t only changes ONCE PER WEEK, which means we see the same old pieces of trivia which takes 2 seconds to digest and remember.

Oppose

  1. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) It has interesting pieces of trivia and is the perfect thing for it's place. I feel nothing else would be fitting or more satisfying in that position. Why remove it, it's pointless to remove it and what else do you suggest should go there?
  2. Emperor Yoshi (talk) Well, what do you think we should replace it with? When you remove something from the Main Page, you have to replace it with something else, not to mention it has some trivia that may interest some Users. If you think it is bland, then do not look at it, no one said you had to.
  3. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Before I signed up here, I always look the DYK for new and interesting information. I always thought it was interesting, until I am usually doing the job of updating it. Why remove it? It's interesting and pretty informative.
  4. Tucayo (talk) - Per all
  5. Fuzzipede27 (talk) - Nonsense. what would we use. Everytime, when i was a guest for a bit and always tested what the trivia was. It's excellent the way it is.
  6. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! I get your point, but, no. Per all. Zero signing out.
  7. Frostyfireyoshi (talk) Per all. With a capital PER ALL.
  8. New Super Mario (talk) I like some off the good ones. Maybe they could update it more often.
  9. Ralphfan (talk) – Per all.
  10. MATEOELBACAN (talk) - Per all.
  11. Commander Code-8 (talk) I do enjoy looking at DYK but some things in it are pretty LAME. I'm still opposing.
  12. Mikiuz (talk) - I like watch these trivias. Maybe, we should move up this section.
  13. Mechayoshi (talk) - What's wrong with it? It's helpful!
  14. Superboo922 (talk) - Per all

Comments

What will replace it? Fawfulfury65 (talk)

Umm.... I'm not sure. If it's removed, a pretty small part will be left, so I don't know what we could replace it with. And even if a large space was left, it wouldn't make much of a difference, since I still wouldn't know what to replace it with. Reversinator (talk)
Well, since the FIs were removed. Then why not this. Sounds pointless to me. There is no need to replace it.Mr bones (talk)

I don't see a reason to remove this template if it's not going to be replaced. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

Does it need to be replaced? I mean, if you think it needs to be replaced, suggest something. Reversinator (talk)

What about the old window that shows article needing rewrite and talk pages needing answers?Mr bones (talk)

Awwwwww. :( Why should it be replaced? What would fill its postion? I for one rather like the random, interesting trivia. Frostyfireyoshi (talk)

Well, I don't know if this can be possible. But what about a quiz? About random trivias? This will be much better then picking random trivias and placing them there.Mr bones (talk)

@Booderdash: Not everyone is online every day. It is good to have the trivia for a whole week so anyone who comes on during the week can read it. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

Ff65, still, the trivia are usually never interesting and are either extremly obscure and unneedd or rather obvious. Most of the GOOD trivia like the SMG (which is also a type of machine gun lol) boss music were removed. Booderdash (talk)

Hey, I find some of that trivia pretty interesting. Not everyone can agree with you, it's your opinion. And there's no reason to remove something (without replacing it) that isn't really that bad. It's better to have the DYN than to have nothing at all in its place. Fawfulfury65 (talk)

These facts seem pretty interesting to me. It's not hurting anything. But it does need to be updated more than just once a week. How about three times a week? Jayt55 (talk)

That would really overwork people Marioguy1 (talk)
Okay. But still, we shouldn't delete it if people like it.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jayt55 (talk).

@Anyone who thinks DYK facts are lame: Why can't you update it YOURSELF if it is lame? Maybe you can find an "unlame" fact and consider that to be added for the DYK section. It's not easy searching through the wiki via Random Page to find a notable fact. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

I WILL update them myselves if I knew how to... Booderdash (talk)

Template:DidYouKnow, then edit it, but do it on a Saturday, if someone hasn't already done it. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.

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