MarioWiki:Proposals

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}. Signing with the signature code ~~~(~) is not allowed due to technical issues.

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  7. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
  8. There are two topics that cannot be decided on through a proposal: the first is sysop promotions and demotions, which are decided by Bureaucrats. Secondly, no proposals calling for the creation of Banjo, Conker or Sonic series articles are allowed (several proposals supporting them have failed in recent history).

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 23:21, 30 October 2024 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Splits & Merges

None at the moment.

Changes

Wiki Appearance: Light Red

Alright folks, I guess I did get a little too bold in giving you too many options on changing on something that has stayed constant for our 3+ years - our skin. Well, I took all things into consideration, including the Encyclopedia feedback section, and I think I came up with a winner. Hopefully. :P

Screenshot 1, Screenshot 2

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Proposer: Wayoshi (talk)
Deadline: 20:00, September 26 2008

Switch to This Skin

  1. Wayoshi (talk)
  2. Shadow Boshi (talk) Freaking awesome.And SM64 Mario looks better than SMW Mario.GO WAYOSHI!
  3. Phailure (talk) Don't listen to those n00bs, this is epic win.
  4. Arend (talk) Not sure about the logo, but the back is good. It just FITS a Mariosite! why? It has 8-Bit Mario's and is red, the color Mario wears.
  5. tanokki (talk) It looks a lot better especially the logo.Template:Fakelink Now, the color is a bit messy but that can be changed in seconds so overall It's good.
  6. Pseudo-dino (talk) Awesome! But maybe tone down the background red a bit.
  7. shyguy27 (talk) Per all.

Keep with the White

  1. Super-Yoshi (talk) Your first proposal had many users state that we should oppose/propose. The logo needs a major change, but IMO that one wouldn't suite it. Besides, why can't you just create a monobook.css? The white background looks fine to me. It sorta gives that "Wikipedia" style look, which makes it look proffesional. However, these are just my opinions related to the wiki. I deny this proposal.
  2. Storm Yoshi (talk) The new one looks friggin weird. TOO MUCH RED o_0 . And the Mario logo thing is just far too weird for my liking.
  3. RedFire Mario (talk) I like the way it is. The new look is rly weird and it looks horrible. Keep the old and awesome one
  4. Walkazo (talk) - The background's not bad, but not good enough to be worthwhile. It'd be a novelty for a little; but our focus should be on information, not background colour (building on what Super-Yoshi said). The logo isn't that great either: it's too faded-out, and lacks "umph".
  5. DarkHero Sonic the Darkness (talk) The background doesn't really look good enough for the wiki. I think we should have the same skin the wiki has right now and I agree with Storm Yoshi.
  6. Jdrowlands (talk) - Per Super Yoshi.
  7. bob-omb buddy (talk) - the background would get boring quickly an as for the logo...no.
  8. Dark Lakitu 789 (talk) Per Walkazo. Also the logo's letters should of have a out line.
  9. Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk) Per all! So far I still think the white background is better. And the old logo looks better than the one shown above. (It kinda of creepy any other logo ideas?)
  10. Stumpers (talk) Mario's always been a very colorful series, but the new skin is very pink rather than colorful. I know you were looking to make it look like different varients of Mario's color red, but it ends up looking either, in the best case, faded, or in the worst case, efeminent (no offense intended wish that comment - I'm just saying that an efeminent color scheme does not fit the series: Super Princess Peach is currently the only efeminent game in the series). The logo is also lacking, I'm really sorry to say. I'm not sure how to improve it, really... but the previous opposer was right about the words at the very least needing outlines. Thing is: you're trying to replicate Super Mario 64's style but it just isn't working because the letters you're using aren't stylized as they were in the SM64 logo. Besides, don't you think the logo should reflect on the entire series, or at least on certain pivital points (ie SMB, SM64, and Galaxy)?
  11. Coincollector (talk) According to Stumpers. The background offers pink tones rather than red tones, and the edit zone, why in that color as well? Talking about the logo, not bad, but compared with the SM64 style of the title, is poor. I would rather the old logo's font style that reachs a bit of such style (although it may be inspired from the Super Mario World style)...
  12. Magitroopa (talk) OMG! It looks ugly! No offence Xzelion.
  13. Count Caterpie (talk) It looks like a picnic blanket, plus i like the logo we have.
  14. Luigi001 (talk) Per all. Personally I like the wiki's skin the way it is. But that's me. And that logo is kinda creepy!
  15. Per all. No. Just no. -Canama

Comments

I'm aware Mario's eyes are covered by the A & R. I could put all the text at the top and Mario at the bottom, if everyone else prefers such, but I like the hidden effect. Wayoshi (talk) 22:40, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

I admire that you are putting much effort to produce a good wiki Wayo, and I congratulate you for that. It must have taken a long time to do both, but still, per my response up above. Super-Yoshi (talk)

That screenshot looks exactly the same as our skin but with a different logo. :| I personally don't like that logo either, Mario should be semi-transparent not black and white. Uniju :D (talk)

Ok, technically, I don't like this text and the logo at all (the one seen above in the Proposal), but, while looking through, I thought of a logo... yet, I doubt it'd work. Palkia47 (talk)

My brother made an other logo. It has 9 Mario games on the background. 3 Mario 2D games, 3 Mario 3D games and 3 Mario Spin-offs. What do you think. Arend (talk)

That look better than the logo that Wayo made. (No offence.) It pwnz!! Princess Grapes Butterfly (talk)

I think I will soon see that Mario mini logo IN MY NIGHTMARES.

Arend's logo is pretty decent, although Mario looks kinda funky. --Blitzwing 11:10, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Arend's brother's logo is very close to what I was thinking of when I wrote my comment about your logo, Wayo. I think it's very unfair to ask you to keep coming up with ideas and to keep having them get shot down, so maybe we should make a main page talk and/or forum thread about this subject and get lots of different ideas from various users and then we can put the best ones together? Stumpers (talk) 14:11, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Only if everyone agrees in wanting to change the skin, and too many want no change at all. Wayoshi (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
Pretty much everyone wants to see a new logo, though. Perhaps we should have a contest? Stumpers (talk) 16:31, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

I have to agree that arend's brother's logo is far better than the one we have, and I still think a slight change in the skin colors could help. And if that doesn't work, things like (very) faded background images for the content and such would be cool. Uniju :D (talk)

How about a background with the clouds from Super Mario All-Stars or something? I dunno... something like that where we used the games' backgrounds as our background images would be pretty sweet IMO. Stumpers (talk)
Stumpers: I want the current logo to stay, though... D: Garlic Man (talk)
I secretly like it, too, but I wouldn't mind it being updated. ;) I'm a sucker for the old school titles, but there's been so much more content since then. Stumpers (talk)
I think a contest would be a fantastic idea. Stooben Rooben (talk)
Per Stooby. That Icon thing of Arend's bro pwns! King Mario (talk)
Lol, that was my idea! :) I think we'd need to have a proposal as to whether the logo needs updating... something like "Either keep the old logo or have a contest to decide a new one." Stumpers (talk)
Agreed. And if we do have a contest, I already have an idea for a logo. Stooben Rooben (talk)
Crazy! A contest sounds ftw :D Super-Yoshi (talk)

I like Arend's brother's logo, though I think it would look better if the red faded to yellow (instead of pink) for the lettering - Walkazo (talk)

That actually gives me an idea for the contest: if we limit ourselves to "rough drafts" of sorts (ie those versions of logos for which we haven't yet received input from the community) we're going to be limiting the quality of our eventual logo. In other words, why don't we first have a general, open-forum style logo page, where people post their logos and get ideas for improvement. Then, the next week, we open up a new page where people would post their final versions of their logos. We could then vote off logos as follows: after three days, top 50% make it to the second round, then the top three make it to the final round, and then only one makes it to be our logo of course. What do you think? Stumpers (talk) 00:54, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
I was worried about "works in progress" being used (hense I commented now, instead of waiting for the actual logo-voting), and I think your solution is a brilliant way to avoid that. - Walkazo (talk)
Sounds brilliant. - Stooben Rooben (talk) 01:27, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks very much! So we should start a proposal about whether or not we should replace the old logo, and if so that we should use that system? Stumpers (talk) 12:18, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, I suppose we should have a proposal on whether or not the logo should be changed. The options could be: Change the logo, or have a contest. Stooben Rooben (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.