Talk:Paah

Really needed?

Is this page really needed? -- YoshiHater at 14:05, June 24, 2022 (EDT)

It's a recurrent game feature with a perceptible effect on gameplay. Therefore, yes. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:25, June 24, 2022 (EDT)

Also, the effect on gameplay is hardcoded into the "bah" itself rather than just being aligned to the occurrence of the "Bah"s, so the gameplay effect isn't a coincidence. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 15:32, June 24, 2022 (EDT)

Yep. To wit, when a level's current music changes as a result of obtaining a star, pressing a P Switch, or some other thing happening, and there are consequently no vocals or equivalent sounds in the new music, enemies stop responding to the audio. This is the case in all NSMB games. Perhaps both this bit of information and yours should be incorporated somewhere in the article. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:51, June 24, 2022 (EDT)

IDK if that's the case; "bah" noises don't seem to line up very well when you put music mods in New Super Mario Bros. Wii; enemies still "react" with custom soundtrack, and not in sync. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:41, June 24, 2022 (EDT)

“Bah” in The Super Mario Bros. Movie

When Mario exits the Warp Pipe to Peach’s Castle, the note that plays at the end of the song playing is the “Bah” sound.

You can copy and paste this into the article if you want, while adding to it of course. This was signed by NintendoFan08 14:13, December 10, 2022 (EST)

Rename to Paah?

Since the original sample as it appears on the CD Library is called "Paah", shouldn't we be calling the article that unless Nintendo comes out with a unique name for it? We don't plan to put this to a vote unless it feels contentious enough, but just wanted to know what others think. (Bah would probably remain a redirect, since most people know of it as the "Bah" sample.) ~Camwood777 (talk) 17:08, December 30, 2022 (EST)

If there's no other working source for it, I agree. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:46, January 4, 2023 (EST)

Yeah, that's what I'm confused about myself. The article is "Bah" which is what everyone knows it as but the article itself calls it "Paah" from the CD library. Plus, if you listen, it sounds like the sound is "Bah" and not "Paah". PrincessPeachFan (talk) 12:53, January 9, 2023 (EST)

Proposal: Either expand scope of article, split article, rename article, or delete

Either expand scope of and/or rename Paah, split Paah, or delete Paah

I was genuinely surprised when I found that the "bah" had an article. I suppose it makes sense, since enemies do react to the music in certain games, but the article is named "Paah" when it also features two other instruments that are clearly not named Paah. The article name seems to be little more than a holdover from the article's previous fanon name, "Bah", which either way should not be used as an umbrella term for the differently-named "Taaaa" and "Cartoon Bell" samples.

In fact, why is this article restricted to the New Super Mario Bros. games (and these three samples) at all? Why not have a general page for notable situations where the environment and/or enemies react to the music? The article even mentions in a footnote that flowers in Super Mario 3D World also dance to the music, despite that having nothing to do with any of the previously mentioned instruments.

Going by the wiki's naming and article standards (that I'm aware of), I think that leaves a few different options for how this should be handled:

1. Split the article into Paah, Taaaa, and Cartoon Bell.
2. Expand the scope of the article to encompass more games and rename it.
3. Delete the article and move the info relating to how objects react to the music to their respective pages.
4. Leave article as-is, but give it a different name (i.e. not named after one of the samples)

Proposer: DrippingYellow (talk)
Deadline: November 7, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Expand scope of article, rename to conjectural name (or official name if available)

1. DrippingYellow (talk) Per proposal.