Talk:Baby Daisy
Is this indeed fact, or a clever ruse? My Bloody Valentine
No, it's not.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by MDupont (talk).
- Not a fact or not a ruse? :P Time Questions 10:32, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- I'd almost swear that photo was doctored from Baby Peach. <_< — Stooben Rooben It looks...odd.
It's really her. The screenshot was taken from someone who was on Wifi, plus, there is another pic floating around showing her on the Character Select screen with her 3D model. The hair styles with her and Baby Peach are totally different. - MDupont
- If it wasn't a screenshot though, it could still be doctored. The crown could easily be changed, and the hair could be morphed and colored somehow. — Stooben Rooben
Don't worry. The game comes out pretty soon, and then we'll all know. Jdrowlands (talk) 11:08, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, it's best to just wait. It wouldn't surprise me if she was a real character though. — Stooben Rooben Nintendo's always got a new Mario character to introduce.
- Quite Right! Jdrowlands (talk) 11:24, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
http://lh3.google.com/gohanrice/R_r4FDEo-TI/AAAAAAAAAK4/1sCzzMN6mzU/DSC08982.JPG.jpg?imgmax=720
The characters will shrink again once more are unlocked.
MDupont 12:21, 8 April 2008 (EDT)
It's real man. No matter how much we despise her, Daisy now has a baby form. A character with no personality... getting a baby form. ._. Master Lucario
The Aura is with me...
anyone notice that Baby Daisy's place on the character select screen is where Baby Peach's should be? And there is no Baby Peach, even though she is a starting character?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Super Joshi 7 (talk).
- Baby Peach is right to the right of Baby Daisy...
Paper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·
My thoughts exactly... My Bloody Valentine
- What about Baby Wario? — Stooben Rooben Or Baby Waluigi...
You are all brainless. Baby Peach and Baby Daisy have two completely different heads. She's in the spot because that's just when she was unlocked. Baby Peach's spot is never gone, it's simply cut from that image. The character select screen changes every time you get a new character; just like the brawl selection screen. Oh and King Boo, only a moron would say a character doesn't have a personality on a site with a page including a section on their personality. My guess as to why there is no Baby Wario or Waluigi? Because nobody would won't to be fat ugly obese/anorexic babies in a racing game. Seriously though, why would they have Baby Wario or Waluigi when neithe rof them would have enough in common with the other babies to have the same karts? Fixitup
Whoa, whoa, calm down, Fixit. That merits as flaming, ya know. Just cool it, I think you've made yourself perfectly clear on this subject. My Bloody Valentine
- "Brainless"? ... Stating our own opinions and discussing why something is the way it is because we don't know why it's that way makes us "brainless"? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. :P — Stooben Rooben Wario and Waluigi may be ugly, but they're cool.
I just noticed somthing! The "B" for "Back" is a gamecube "B"!
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jdrowlands (talk).
Oh no, I said a bad word? I didn't know even the slightest point of an insult could be considered a flame. Obviously I wasn't going off on people in a harsh manner, and I wasn't yelling at anyone. I was defending the facts. Also, that's a B from a gamecube controller because that's what the person is using, lol. Fixitup
Star children
I thought that their can be only 7 star kids. (Baby Mario, Baby Luigi, Baby Peach, Baby Donkey Kong, Baby Wario, Baby Bowser, and Baby Yoshi) Grapes
Just so people know, I didn't add that, I simply replaced it. Also, it didn't say she was one, it said it was unsure if she was. Also, it's gone anyway. Fixitup
Proved false: Gamefaqs faq has the line - New characters - Rosalina, Baby Peach and Mii Racer. No mention of Baby Daisy. Sorry guys, we've been fooled :( Jdrowlands (talk) 13:32, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
I doubt, on youtube (click here), a gamer was playing as baby daisy in a course
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she's sooooo adorable than baby peach....
- I'm getting it sunday, so we'll all see. Jdrowlands (talk) 14:18, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
Don't ya mean Sunday the 27? Oh and she is offical. I know it made be Gamefaq trying not to spoil the game. Grapes
Another golden statue!
Seriously there a other statue that shows Daisy and Luigi relationship as their baby self. Princess Grapes Butterfly (I'll try to find this image.)
Quotes
Alright, there is some edit war going on about the quotes on the page. We had a proposal about removing quotes that contain "just a bunch of giberious and also something like AHHH!!! thats just someone yelling". To me, the quotes in this article clearly qualify for gibberish, all of them. We need a consensus here. Time Questions 00:24, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
As I see it, I have removed the gibberish quotes from that section. I see just about every page has quotes just like the ones I still feel qualify. Just because certain quotes like the ones from the RPGs are longer, doesn't mean anything. Fixitup
- Do you have some examples? Imho, the purpose of the quotes is, and that was also brought up in the proposal I mentioned above, to show something about the character's personality. Every character can say something like "No", "Go", or "Yippieh" (all of them are even repeated, with slight variations, in this article), so those quotes say nothing about his or her personality. Also, seeing other pages that have such quotes doesn't mean that Baby Daisy can have them too, but that we should do something against them in general. At least that's what the proposal says. Time Questions 15:34, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
Examples of alike quotes? Is that a joke? You can go to other pages and look. You are human, right? A quote is a quote. Anyone can say anything, just because it gets repeated or is used in various forms doesn't change the fact it's a quote. The only thing that should qualify as gibberish is random noises like, "Augh!", or, "FGKshngvdjnjn". Saying yipee or yay or go, counts as saying something. Also, these count as defining personality. I don't see how anything can't define someones personality. Just because other pages have them too, and you disagree with it, doesn't make it wrong. Fixitup
- Well, it was you who claimed that "just about every page has quotes like the ones" in question, so you could also provide me with examples to support your claim. I admit I'm too lazy to do it myself, but laziness is human too, isn't it? Anyway, it's not just me disagreeing with having such quotes, it's the majority of the people who voted on the proposal. The decision might be about half a year old, but it's still valid. That's a fact. The question only is whether the quotes in this article (and possibly "just about every page") qualify for the kind of "gibberish" the majority of the voters was against. Of course these are "Quotes", and thus consistent with the header, but that's not reason enough to let them stay. You can't put whatever trivial facts come to your mind under "Trivia" either; it needs to be regulated. Aren't you the one who sets great store by making this wiki look professional (which, of course, is highly appreciated)? How could you say that quotes like "Yipee. Yipee. Yi-hee-hee-hm-hm.." look professional? Time Questions 17:00, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
- Those two-letter quotes don't qualify either, I don't think. I mean, "No!" and "Go!" is just a waste of space. Almost all of those quotes make no sense; thus gibberish. Marcelagus (T • C • E) All we need now is... BABY WALUIGI! XP
I know for a fact not all of them are gibberish. This is ridiculous, the reason other pages have these quotes, is because nobody cared until they saw the Baby Daisy page having them. No, I'm not admitting to them being gibberish, I'm speaking of your opinions. So at the very least I'd be willing to remove more of them, but I nkwo some of them should stay.
Examples(according to you): Peach
- "Sweet!" - Super Smash Bros. Melee
- "Wow!" - Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
- "Say Cheese!!" - Mario Strikers Charged
- "Come on. Bring it."
- "Princess...Peach!"
- "Hmmm...Oh yeah!"
- "Objection!" - Super Mario Sunshine
- "Thanks. Thanks." - Super Mario Strikers
- "I'll take that!" - Mario Party 7
- "Good Choice!"
- "Mama Mia!" - Mario Tennis
- "With love!" - Mario Power Tennis
- "Oh! Peachy!" - Mario Party 8
- "Go Peach! Ha!"
- "All Right!" - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
- "Here we go!" - Mario Kart Super Circuit
- "Mario!" - Super Princess Peach
- "Peachy!"
- "Nintendo."
- "Let's go!" - Mario Kart DS
- "I'm a super-star!"-Mario Party DS
- "Yay! Not bad!"-Mario Kart Wii
- "Alright!"
Waluigi
- "Waluigi Time!" – Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Awh Yih! (Oh Yeah)" – Mario Kart DS
- "Let's go already!" – Mario Kart DS
- "Heh Heh Heh, I ah got it!" – Mario Party 3
- "YEAH! Waluigi da winner!" – Mario Party 5
- "You Lousy!" – Mario Party 7
- "Waluigi's number one!" – Mario Hoops 3 on 3
- "Too easy! Yeah! Heh heh heh... losers!" – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Heh heh heh... yeah!" – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Hello! Buh-Bye!" – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Yeah?! You made-a CHEESE!! Uh...Shaddap!" – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Want the ball? Eh? HERE! Hahahah!" – Mario Strikers Charged(Waluigi throws the ball at a random sidekick on your team)
- "Wa-lu-i-gi, yeah, yeah, YEAH!" – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Uhh, Ah ah ah! heh heh heh heh." – Mario Strikers Charged
- "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyahh!" Mario Tennis: Power Tour
- "Heh heh heh... Waluigi number one!" Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games
Toad
- "O-kay!" - Super Mario Advance
- "Toad, Won!" - Mario Party 8
- "I'm the best!" - Mario Kart 64
- "Woo-hoo!" _ Mario Kart DS
- "Yeah! I'm the winner!" _ Mario Party 5
Toadette
- "Not bad! Hee hee hee!" – Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Hi!" – Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Yahoo!" – Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Let's Go!" – Mario Party 7
- "Mushroom!" – Mario Party 7
- "Yahoo! I'm the winner!" – Mario Party 7
- "Yowser!!!!" – Mario Party 8
- "Toadette's the winner!" – Mario Party 8
- "Woopie!" – Mario Party 8
- "Yippie, Yeah!" – Mario Party 8
- "Awwwwww!" – Mario Party 8
- "Yeah!" – Mario Party 8
Mario
- "Lets-a-play!" - Mario Tennis: Power Tour
- "It's-a-me, Mario!" - Super Mario 64
- "Let's-a-go!" - Super Mario 64
- "Mamma mia!" - Super Mario 64
- "The horror!" - Super Mario Sunshine
- "Crikey!" - Super Mario Sunshine
- "Mario Time!" - Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Yay for me!" - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
- "Woo-Hoo! Bravo, Mario!" - Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World
- "Gotcha!" - Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World
- "Fantastico!" - Mario Hoops 3 on 3
- "Lucky!" - Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
- "Here I go!" - New Super Mario Bros.
- "No." - Hotel Mario
- "Here we go!" - Mario vs. Donkey Kong
As far as I can tell from your comments here, you guys consider anything with short excitement, or short phrases, to be gibberish. Fixitup
- No, that's not what we're saying. True, some of those quotes do need fixing, but most can stay. For example, "Fantastico!" is a totally valid one-word quote. Fixitup, if you're extremely concerned, you could even raise another proposal regarding the rules, but I don't suggest it. Marcelagus (T • C • E)
- To be fair, most of these quotes don't provide any context whatsoever. For example, the "No" Mario says in Hotel Mario is hilarious considering the context and the ways Mario is saying it. Just writing that Mario said "No" in a game isn't really helpful. Maybe the quotes on this page would be more meaningful if a context was provided. --Blitzwing (talk · gnome work)
- You probably haven't even heard her say any of these things, and regardless, that is an opinion. Weather you find a quote amusing or not means nothing. Fixitup
- You're still rather alone with your opinion that the quotes should stay. Your only argument seems to be that the quotes in the article, well, are quotes indeed and thus just what the header says. But you didn't respond to my argument that there is perhaps an infinite number of trivial facts that could be put under the "Trivia" section, yet we don't mention them all, only those with a certain information content. So, why shouldn't we do the same with quotes? Considering that the majority is against having the quotes, I think we should finally remove them, unless you (or anyone else) has some very good argument for keeping them. Time Questions 17:04, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
- Trivia section? What are you talking about? Look, the point is not all of these quotes are gibberish, and not all of them need to be removed. I'd settle on removing more, but I know there are still some that should stay. Regardless of anyone's opinion. Do you realize the argument your upholding is based on nothing but your opinion? I've shown you that these quotes aren't gibberish, and that is what the proposal was settled on. I'm not going to start a proposal on the exact same thing. Why would Mario saying Here We Go, or No, be better than Baby Daisy saying Baby Daisy! or No ? It wouldn't that's why certain quotes should stay. Seriously, this is baffling how you think perfectly acceptable lines don't count just because they're repeated, and meaningful. That's totally based on opinion. When you base the facts on the proposal, that's not an opinion, is it? I've baked up my point, and if needed in order to keep certain quotes, I'll back it up more. Oh, and the fact I was the first one to say we need to wait til this is settled, shows that you were the one that shouldn't have started the edit war. I don't like how you tried to make it look like I'm the one that started it when all you did was repeat what I said in order to have your way. Fixitup
- You probably haven't even heard her say any of these things, and regardless, that is an opinion. Weather you find a quote amusing or not means nothing. Fixitup
- To be fair, most of these quotes don't provide any context whatsoever. For example, the "No" Mario says in Hotel Mario is hilarious considering the context and the ways Mario is saying it. Just writing that Mario said "No" in a game isn't really helpful. Maybe the quotes on this page would be more meaningful if a context was provided. --Blitzwing (talk · gnome work)
SMB Movie
Should that be mentioned as Baby Daisy's first appearance? CrossEyed7 23:46, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
- Hmm...yes, I think so. Also adding information about her short appearance in the movie is fine.
Paper Jorge ( Talk·Contributions)·
I don't remember much about the movie but...
Baby Daisy made a short appearance at the beginning of the movie. IT NEEDS A MENTION!! My Bloody Valentine
- *applauds* I can't believe it... that's just awesome that you would remember that. Stumpers! 02:12, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
Protecting
Erm, Time Q, it's against the rules to protect regular articles like this one. Sysops shouldn't be the only ones who can edit, ya know. If articles are protected, it's no longer a Wiki, just a regular website. Glitchman (talk · contribs)
- Well, in this case, it was to temporarily stop Fixit, who was insanely undoing edits, with no reason. The block will soon be lifted as the dispute is settled. Kind of like what happened with Toon Link. Marcelagus (T • C • E)
- Because you can't get blocked for doing this. Fixitup tried to force his point, but Garlic Man (and me too in the beginning) just did the same, so there's no reason to block one of them. The only solution thus is to temporarily protect the article. Sorry for the inconvenience, I don't like that either, but there's simply no better solution afaik. Time Questions 18:16, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
Possible relationships
Recently, there was a section of Baby Daisy's relationship with two of the other Babies. There was one of Baby Luigi:
"Like her elder incarnation, Baby Daisy may have a crush on (Baby) Luigi. As mentioned above, this is supported by the fact a statue of the two infants interacting appears in the Daisy Circuit level; just as a statue of their alter egos does. Any other hint at a relationship between the two is yet confirmed."
It, along with her relationship with Baby Peach (which wasn't as supported, but still) was deleted because of lack of proof and the fact it only being a possibility. But I think that it should have stayed. Because if other pages can include "possibilities" (Like reg. Daisy and Luigi), then I don't see a problem with hers. Does anyone else think that this should stay?
- Well, there's always a "possibilty" that Mario and Luigi have a romantic relationship (I know, bad example, sorry). And, while there is a statue of Luigi and Daisy on one of the courses, there are none with their infant versions. Possibilities originated from possibilities is just too non-official. Marcelagus (T • C • E) BTW, sign your comments with ~~~ or ~~~~
More bull, every page has relationship section(S) based on hints from the games, because unless stated in a biography, it isn't a complete fact, but an obvious outcome. They wouldn't have put Baby Daisy anywhere near Baby Peach, had they not been intended to have a good relationship. This is exactly how other pages support character relationships, so I don't see why this one is getting harassed out of nowhere. Fixitup
Possible Relationships
No, there is a statue of the two babies, its right behind the one of the adults:
(sorry it's so big)
But I guess I'm fine with the baby peach one being gone.
(Crap, I screwed up. REALLY sorry, I'm not an HTML person.) =/
Oh... Well, that changes things. Oh well, the page is protected right now, so there's no way to fix it, anyways. :P Marcelagus (T • C • E)
- Indeed, bad timing I suppose. xD
can someone put that pic. on the page, 'cause it's blocked! Blue KoopC
Ha, an image being big doesn't matter, as long as it isn't small, we can fix it. I suppose having a picture of the final ending screen would prove the baby peach relation according to the autmoatic acceptance of this? If not, then I smell something fowl; aside from that commentary I don't think any relationship section needs imagery to prove a point. . Fixitup
Heres the pic of the two standing next to each other. They're both in the center:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/gohanrice/R_xJazEo-eI/AAAAAAAAANk/McpakxjovN4/DSC08998.JPG?imgmax=512
-moonshine
UGH! I wish it was in a higher quality! Fixitup