Talk:Thorny

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This is listed as a Spiny, but looking at its graphics, it's a recolored Spike Top with two extra spikes. I think it might need to be reclassified as a Buzzy. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 06:24, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

The problem, though, is that its official artwork has it resemble a Spiny, so maybe it should be classified as both? ^(T|C) 09:57, 18 March 2018 (EDT)

But if it's basically a recolored Spike Top just with two more spikes on its shell, why not classify it as a Spike Top derivative? Seems the safest option to me. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:24, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

It's worth noting that Thorny's sprites lack the rim around the spikes, like Spike Top has, while the standalone shell sprites are also both edited from the Troopas (itself made to resemble a Shellcreeper), so....it's a bit complicated through resource reusage. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:28, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

There's also the final cutscene that occurs if you reach 999999 points, and in it, all of the basic enemies appear individually with white flags - except for Spike and Thorny, who appear together. It looks like Spike Top appears by itself, but then Thorny charges into it as if thinking "hey, I was the better version of that thing" (or at least, that's the impression I get). Either way, as far as the game is concerned, Thorny acts just like Spike except it gets stunned instead of getting defeated in one hit, so it does make more sense gameplay-wise as a derivative of Spike Top. As for it resembling Spiny in artwork, note that earlier appearances has less consistent designs than now. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:20, March 10, 2020 (EDT)