User talk:Grandet Omate

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Welcome, and FNC

Welcome to the Super Mario Wiki. Just to let you know, one of the images on your userpage titled ValiantComics-Toad.JPG has been moved to File:ValiantComics-Toad.jpg. Simply change the capital JPG to jpg and press save changes to fix the image. Have fun! Trig - 16:07, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

Userspace

Dear Grandet Omate,

It has come to our attention that you are currently in violation of the userspace policy. Please review the policy and abide by it, or else a warning will be issued. Thank you for your cooperation.

Hello, I've noticed you've been making a large amount of edits to your userpage. Please try to focus on editing mainspace more. Thanks! TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 17:48, July 24, 2019 (EDT)

Categories

Hello, Grandet Omate. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly categorize the file. It's simple to learn how to do so. Just search for the correct category by starting with the following groups:

Images Audio/video files

When uploading, copy the full title of the category and insert it in square brackets into the summary text box below the {{aboutfile}} template, replacing the {{uncategorized}} template entirely. If you're using the upload function from the text editor, simply add the category link to the description. For example, images related to the game Super Mario World would use:

[[Category:Super Mario World images]]
or one it its subcategories. Media files would use:
[[Category:Super Mario World media files]]

Please consider the above information before uploading more files. Keep in mind that some files can belong to multiple categories. Do not put images into the media files category, or vice versa. If you continue uploading files without categorizing them correctly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

Please also note that simply removing {{uncategorized}} will not suffice; categories should be added, like this: [[Category:Super Mario Bros. Images]]. Thanks! TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 01:21, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

Warning.svg This is a warning to stop your inappropriate behavior (incorrectly categorizing files) on the Super Mario Wiki. Please adhere to the rules or you will be blocked from editing this site.
If you feel this warning was undeserved, you may appeal it.

You are still doing this. Files should be categorized like this: [[Category:Super Mario Maker 2 Images]]. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 01:37, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

Sorry, I didn’t see the message until now. I added the categories to all of the images that other people didn’t add to already. Hopefully I’ll remember this next time I upload. Grandet Omate (talk) 19:11, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

List of games

I don't want to get blocked for inappropriate behavior, but why did you remove those games? Human beings including myself worked hard to get that information on that list and then you remove it. Why? I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just asking. Lord Falafel (talk) 20:39, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

My impression was the list was to contain every Mario game where Mario or another Mario franchise character was a Main Character and didn’t have an equal role with MANY others. In games such as Minecraft and Skylanders: SuperChargers, Mario characters don’t appear in the game until you either buy the Mash-Up Pack or scan the Bowser or Donkey Kong Skylander figures respectively. In games like Punch Out, Mario series characters (DK) only make very small appearances, and we have a page for that: List of Mario references in Nintendo video games. Finally, all Game & Watch games without a Mario Character in the title have nothing to do with Mario until most (not all) got a modern version in the Game & Watch gallery series which contained Mario characters as the lead roles. The thing is, that’s it’s own game! The original Game & Watch games are different from Game & Watch Gallery, those are separate remasters with Mario characters. Grandet Omate (talk) 01:07, August 2, 2019 (EDT)

Re: "Why would you source the name when it's used in game?"

It's likely an 'artifact' left over from previous editions of the page, especially if the game was a more recent release at the time, or else placed there by someone who isn't as well-versed in editing. You can probably just remove it without posing a likely-rhetorical question in such a manner - "Name is used in-game" is a much more succinct and less accusatory way of putting it. :V --ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 12:23, August 3, 2019 (EDT)

Sorry if I sounded aggressive, I didn’t mean to. I am using “Name is used in-game" now like you suggested I should. Thanks. Grandet Omate (talk) 12:27, August 3, 2019 (EDT)

Honestly, I think it's generally useful to have older references available when the names only show up in-game later (as opposed to in an accompanying product, which is when we do practice leaving references out). For example, having a Super Mario World reference for Jumping Piranha Plant conveys the clear idea that "okay, they used the proper name in other sources at the time so the in-game typo is clearly a mistake in that game's localization." It also prevents giving the reader false impressions like Ptooie Plant being Ptooie's name at the time of Super Mario Bros. 3 due to now being the only name reference left in the article. That, and it just makes it easier to keep track of when and where certain name changes occurred at a glance rather than having to dive into the article, helping to maintain it chronologically rather than having to resort to double-checking via the page history. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:09, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
That's perfectly fine, thank you for elaborating. Actually makes sense explained that way. --ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 22:34, August 3, 2019 (EDT)

One more thing, regarding stuff like this - on the flip side, I don't see any see any place where it says "in-game citations must be removed on sight" and in fact, is declared as an acceptable source given context in policy (note it also states that generally "references should never be removed"). While I'd say that unlockable content is obscure enough, there is another example taken from your own recent edits: you left the game text reference for "Parabiddybud" intact, despite your logic otherwise seemingly suggesting that it should be scrubbed from the wiki, so you must be aware that leaving in-game references out is obfuscating in some cases. I have seen instances of someone slapping a {{ref needed}} on an article or even rewriting it because certain in-game references were not properly cited the first time, and while you may not make that mistake, the loss of this information is not how to prevent further instances. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:45, August 4, 2019 (EDT)

Additionally, if you're still intent on doing that, be mindful of leaving around remnants haphazardly: this is one recent example, but others had to be cleaned up. Also, be aware of context. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:04, August 9, 2019 (EDT)

Broken references

When you're removing references, make sure you remove any other ones that call (reuse) those references as well. i.e. After removing a reference that looks like <ref name=Name>Source</ref> you must remove the ones that use the same "ref name" too (<ref name=Name/>) (see MarioWiki:Citations#Multiple citations of the same source). Otherwise you're leaving broken references at the bottom of the page. Samus costume, in Super Mario Maker. Mario JC 06:26, August 16, 2019 (EDT)

Profanity

While you may of seen my response, to prevent incidents like this happening again, it is perfectly fine to swear in your edits, or anywhere else on the wiki, as long as it is not in heavy excess, or directed at other users. To quote MarioWiki:Courtesy: "Swearing at other people is flaming and is unacceptable. The occasional use of profanity is allowed as long as it is not directed at another user, but it should generally be avoided. Similarly, if a user specifically requests that no profanity is used on their talk page, their wishes should be respected. You are free to use profanity in moderation in your own userspace, but if it is decided that you have overstepped the boundaries of good taste, you may be asked to tone it down.". All three of those examples of ‎Mario Sakuraba swearing were perfectly acceptable. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 17:10, August 19, 2019 (EDT)

Snake jar

Just for clarity, what was the source for that edit? LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:30, September 27, 2019 (EDT) Mario Kart Tour in-game. Grandet Omate (talk) 19:10, September 27, 2019

SMM2 Mii Outfit Sprites

Hey Grandet Omate,

I noticed that you uploaded the current photos for the Mii Outfits in Mario Maker 2. If you want, I have the sprites for all the outfits, but I don't have time to upload them all. Just tell me if you want me toggle them to you.

Thanks, TDS