Talk:Pokémon Trainer

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Playable?

Should this guy really be counted as a playable character? Considering that his Pokemon (which the player controls) do all the fighting, while he just stands in the background and watches. Yes, I know that you'll select him to "play" as him, but you'll never control him. -- Booster

That's indeed hard to tell. Well, you control him when using the Pokémon Change move, at last. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 10:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Ah, I see. I guess he is playble... barely. -- Booster

Red

Since this dude is the protagonist to Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow, most likely Yellow, because of the fact he has all three of the Kanto starter Pokemon, shouldn't we call him Red. Red is the default name that Nintendo calls this character, so...?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariofan132 (talk).

The site calls him Pokemon Trainer. Max2 (talk)

Yeah, but his real name is Red.

Mariofan132

The creators obviously chose to have a more generic name, the type of a Pokémon Trainer, modelled after on of them, who happens to be Red. You can guess that he will look different if he has alternate costumes, and this is the official name. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:18, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Okay, but could we at least have a redirection? Mariofan132

no. the site calls him Pokemon Trainer. Max2 (talk)

Correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't play the Pokemon games, but wasn't Red the final boss fight in R/B/Y? The player you control is whoever you name it, right? Phoenix Rider

1. no
2. yes. you could name the player.

My point is, though, he's never called Red on the site, meaning it's unnoficial. Max2 (talk)

It's NOT RED! It's a Pokemon Trainer! That's the name on THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE, so that's the OFFICIAL NAME! Max2 (talk)

We'll not have a redirect either. Because 1) noone is likely to search for the Pokémon Trainer and type in the name Red instead and 2) we already have a redirect on Red. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:38, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Not a redirect but a disambiguation. Anyway, the site and most likely the game calls him Pokemon Trainer so lets leave it like this. Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!

That's what I meant! Thanks PJ! To Max2, when Nintendo refers to the star of Pokemon R/B/Y/FR/LG, they refer to him as red. The article on Wiki- and Bulba- pedia is Red. Trust me. To Cobold, some Pokemon fan might be on here and found out that Red was in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, he types in "Red", and turns up at the disambugation page and finds Pokemon Trainer. And to PhoenixWrighter, same thing as Max2. Thank you.

Mariofan132

The official website calls him Pokemon Trainer! Who cares if Wikipedia calls him Red? The official website is THE BEST SOURCE. Max2 (talk)

When he's ever called Red in a trophy description or something, we can go for it. If not, this would be information from other series which is not represented by the crossover, and that's banned by the Importance Policy. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:47, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

Max2, you just sounded like some Smash Bros. zombie right there. THE WEB SITE IS THE BEST SOURCE... I know the website is for Super Smash Bros. and this character from Super Smash Bros. is called Pokemon Trainer. I just wanted this page on the Red disambugation. I was actually agreeing with a fellow Wikier and then poof! You guys are fun-suckers.

PS: Wikipedia calls him Red because NINTENDO calls him Red.

Mariofan132

The creator of the game beats the company in total. so there. He's not red. no one would look for him as red because he is not red. He's a pokemon trainer. Max2 (talk)

Okay, I visit Bulbapedia. They have this thing called Bulbanews. It really says Red put in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. They're now thinking, "Cool! I want to check this out on Red's page here." They go there, finding only about a small paragraph saying Red is in Brawl. They think "Dang it! Well, only two other places know about Super Smash Bros., SmashWiki or Mario Wiki. The majority of SmashWiki only talks about famous Super Smash Bros. characters that no one's ever heard of. This Wiki, though, has the information. They type in Red. A bunch of options pop up, Red Ninjakoopa, Axem Red, ect. But at the bottom of that page is "Also known as the Pokémon Trainer around Super Smash Bros. Brawl..." They're satisfied. If Pokémon Trainer isn't on that disambugation page. Pokémon fans that visit here will think this Wiki is slow on news.

Mariofan132

Look, I only added it so you'll be quiet. so do. please. Max2 (talk)

Also, you can't judge it's red just because he has all 3 starters. And, it IS mistaken, FYI. He's not Red at all, but people (like yourself) mistake him for Red. Max2 (talk)

I want to start by saying this is a stupid argument, and finish by telling Phoenix that Red was the protagonist in R/B/Y. He was the final boss in G/C/S.Saudy^Talk!

Considering so many bloody Pokemon trainers look like each other, I would say it's not Red. And this is a generic Pokemon Trainer. Not Red. And, for one thing, anybody can edit Wikipedia, but you have to get an account to edit MarioWiki. MamaWaluigi 13:36, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Max calm down. MamaWaluigi you are right. Just cuss hem ya look like Red, doesn't mean he necessary is Red. So I end this arguement by saying: His official name as of now is "Pokemon Trainer". Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!

He is BASED on Red(player charcter)'s look from FireRed/Leaf Green. Is he actully Red, doesn't really matter. Ktnxby. Lego3400 21:11, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Here are the facts. You cannot argue with the facts. Red and blue are baced off of Ash and Gary. They were called that because tecnically you could name them whatever you wanted to and as a refrence to the first games. He is baced off the guy from FR and LG. He is called Pokemon trainer because you could name him whatever you wanted to in the games, so he has no set name.

He should not be called Red(not a fact).