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The first eleven months. The summer of '08. The winter of discontent. The spring of squelching superfluous spaces. The sporadic fall. The absentee school semester of 2009-2010 The age of the new computer

Status: As always, school keeps me too busy for social calls, but if you have any questions about the Super Mario Wiki, feel free to ask away - I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Ridley Proposal Extended...

My bad dude... PHOENIX (talk • edits) 14:05, 4 March 2011 (EST)

*dudette

But anyway, it's no problem; we haven't had an extension in months, so there was nothing for you to go on: I don't think it says to show the extension in the rules (it's just an unwritten style thing). - Walkazo 14:13, 4 March 2011 (EST)

Okay, cool...um, I have another question (I know, big surprise, right? :D), can u just make a new category on anything u think there should be a category about?

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 00:17, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Depends on the type of category. If there's only a few pages that would go in it, it's probably not a good idea; other than that, it'll probably be allowed, but I can't say for certain without knowing any specifics - it's not a subject that lends itself to generalities. Why, are you thinking of making a couple categories? - Walkazo 00:27, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Yeah, I was thinking one for Books, and one for Giant Creatures...

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 00:30, 5 March 2011 (EST)

We've actually decided to use Category:Publications, rather than Template:Fakelink around the wiki (we used to have a "books" category, but it was deleted in 2009). IIRC, "Publications" was chosen because it avoids the possible confusion about whether the category is talking about in-universe books or actual RL books, and it incorporates a broader range of things (i.e. comics, compilations of comics, magazines), which makes it more useful as a navigation tool. I can see where you're coming from with the Giant Creatures category, but you'd have to be really specific (i.e. it's "giant" forms of standard enemies, rather than large creatures in general, since that would probably be considered unnecessary), and even then, it might not be accepted. You might want to consult another Sysop before making such a category. - Walkazo 00:50, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Yeah, see what I was talking about was in-universe books, but I was only able to find four books that would fit into that category, though I'm sure there are more, 'cuz there's tons of Mario games I've never even played before... :)

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 01:06, 5 March 2011 (EST)

I actually doubt that there's enough in-universe books to justify making an entire category for them. - Walkazo 01:15, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Good point...

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 01:27, 5 March 2011 (EST)

Hello Again

Its me DKC2 King Liam with a different username. Hows stuff going? Kaptain K. Rool

"school keeps me too busy for social calls" - Walkazo 15:19, 6 March 2011 (EST)

Um... you are online. Can you explain what you mean? Kaptain K. Rool

School keeps me busy a lot, so when I do make it online, I want to do work, not waste my time chit-chatting. - Walkazo 15:22, 6 March 2011 (EST)

"Title Screen" stuff

No offense, obviously, but the person who's been uploading screenshots of title screens has been doing so very frequently as compared to the majority of screenshots we have of actual gameplay. I did tell the person in question that in the future to not just upload title screens alone for that doesn't do the articles in the mainspace justice. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! User Page | Talk Page 12:58, 7 March 2011 (EST)

But I don't see why title screens "don't do the articles" justice. Sure they don't show gameplay, but they do show a perfectly valid (and interesting, imho) aspect of the game. What's the harm? - Walkazo 13:14, 7 March 2011 (EST)

What now...?

So now that this has already been extended an extra week, is it still considered to be a tie, or not?

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 01:33, 11 March 2011 (EST)

It gets extended for another week. If it's still tied by the end of the 17th, it'll have to be extended again (and again, and again, and again until a consensus is reached). - Walkazo 01:39, 11 March 2011 (EST)

Omg! I'm almost starting to wish I hadn't proposed it in the first place... :D

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 01:45, 11 March 2011 (EST)

Birdo^_^

Hiya Walkazo, what's wrong with my recent edit on Bido's article?? =0 Birdobeauties I'm not lying =/

Your observation may be valid, but the specifics of how she runs isn't really important to the reader's understanding of Birdo, and it breaks up the flow of the paragraph, which is focusing on her personality (running around and waving her arms from side to side doesn't exactly invoke the idea of her exuding beauty). - Walkazo 19:03, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

You're right, I just thought for a moment that this form of running could show up a part of her personality. Because every character runs in a different way and I think that shows their personality. e.g. Bowser, Mario, Birdo, Peach and Yoshi.Birdobeauties =/

{{personal-image}}

You've recently 2 years ago protected the Template:Personal-image. You see, the idea of "This image belongs to blablabla, etc." is incorrect. For example, if someone wants to upload audio file (*.ogg), he can't place this template because there's that "image" thing. Can you edit this so it says "This file belongs to blablabla, etc."? SWFlash

But the entire template is about images, not just that one line: altering that first use of "file" won't change the fact that a personal image template is being used on a completely different form of media. I can see the wisdom of counting personal image and audio files together, but right now, the entire system of organization is not set up to do that. You should suggest adding a line about audio files to MarioWiki:Personal Images on its talk page if you really want to change things, but I don't really see the point. Does anyone even have a personal audio file? Would anyone ever want one? Most of the time, users can just embed a YouTube video to share songs/themes they like, and frankly, it's preferable that they do that, instead of uploading a song themselves (saving on server space, and whatnot). - Walkazo 18:53, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Double King Boos?

Hey, so, I was just wondering, is there a reason that the File:Buuhuusluggazz.PNG King Boo article is completely separate from the King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine) article? I mean, they seem to be the exact same creature, just with a different appearance between games. Like, if you take away their crowns, then they're basically just this:File:BooNSMBWii.PNGand this:File:Booshine.jpeg, right? What I'm trying to say is that, if you omit the fact that they're kings, underneath they're really just large Boos, and despite their different appearance, both of the above Boos in the second set of pictures are classified as the same creature on the same article, just with a different appearance in different games.

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 07:47, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

It's explained here. Basically, they're different in Japan and the translators changed that for no good reason (not the first time this has happened), so we decided to go with the original idea and split them. The point about Boos in general being redesigned for SMS is interesting, but it's probably not good enough to outweigh the name-based decision, and the idea that "they're just big Boos who are kings" is redundant because everything is just a member of its species if you take away whatever happens to make it special. - Walkazo 22:24, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Ahhh, I see...

PHOENIX (talk • edits) 00:55, 17 March 2011 (EDT)

Question

I was wondering if when you said you didn't want any help removing the spoiler templates, did that mean you wanted people not to help you or you weren't going to ask people to help you. I would like to help if you don't mind people helping you, because I don't make a large enough percentage of mainspace edits, and want to come up with ways to contribute. Geekiness is an end, not a means - Bop1996 16:29, 20 March 2011 (EDT)

Well, I'm not going to get angry and tell people to stop if they start taking down Spoiler templates, or anything, but I'm definitely not soliciting help. I feel very strongly about getting rid of these things, and after years of begrudgingly putting up with them, I'm really looking forward to removing them with my own two hands - or at least be the one who takes the most down. I don't want to go away to eat dinner on Saturday, come back an hour later and find it's all been done for me by a bunch of folks who just want higher edit counts (of course, that's an extreme example). Also, sometimes a bunch of people trying to do the same maintenance work can backfire: if we're all using WhatLinksHere, we might keep getting edit conflicts as we tackle the same pages at the top of the list, for example. It's good that you want to help, and you can if you really want to, but you should try thinking of your own projects to improve the wiki. I sometimes rustle up maintenance work by choosing a game and then going around to all the pages linked in its navigation template looking for little things that I can fix, like removing unnecessary spaces in the headers, infoboxes and categories; or, I simply choose a template itself to "follow around" the wiki. - Walkazo 17:23, 20 March 2011 (EDT)