Talk:Cascading Stone

Official name? RAP... Does it mean you can throw it? :P

Not really.Knife (talk) 16:42, 16 December 2007 (EST)

Merge Cascading Stone, vanishing platform, and moon platform with Falling Platform

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I was going to make a unilateral move, but as this impacts several articles, a proposal would be more appropriate. I would like to consolidate the Cascading Stone, moon platform, and vanishing platform pages together into one. A preview is available here.

Browsing the Falling Platform article should convey what this object is, and that it is nearly identical to the recurring Cascading Stones from the Yoshi franchise in both design, mechanics, and form. The only outlier is that the Falling Platforms in Super Mario Odyssey are made of rusted metal, but I think this is outweighed by all of the mechanical and spatial similarities. Additionally, it does not seem like the platform's identity as a rock is very important or an defining trait, as the Japanese word "rock" has only been incorporated into the subject's name once, in Yoshi's Island DS, and never again. In addition, it seems like both subjects have gone by a series or very similar names throughout history (as apparent in the preview I link to above in my sandbox), which is not dissimilar to to the names of Donut Blocks, Flatbed Ferries, Note Blocks, Jet Pipes and many other recurring objects in the Mario franchise. So I view the similarities in nomenclature to be further indication that these objects are one in the same. This is not be the first time a object from Yoshi's Island has leapt into the mainline games, as is the case with Wobble Rocks.

Originally, my proposal only sought to merge the Cascading Stones and Falling Platform articles. However, there are a couple of over objects that think can reasonably be viewed as identical: namely the vanishing platforms and moon platforms from Super Mario Odyssey. A critical examination of the various kingdoms in Super Mario Odyssey reveals that most kingdoms support the same object or type of object with different designs to match the intended topography, but this does not make them ontologically different objects. This is apparent with a close comparision between many objects in the game, such as flowers, small animals, seesaws (note Timer Challenge vs. sub-area), Brick Blocks (note Wooded Kingdom vs. most other appearances), and so on. So while these objects do not look like rusted panels, I don't think that matters as much as the fact that they are mechanically identical. Objects during Timer Challenges, so as the mentioned vanishing platforms, tend to have vibrant toy-like appearances, and the moon platforms are nearly identical to the giant cube-shaped Falling Platforms from Super Mario 3D Land. The "vanishing platforms" and "moon platforms" are not signaled out as unique objects in any literature available to me other than the Prima Games guidebook, including The Art of Super Mario Odyssey.

I offer three options:

1. Support: Move them all: Cascading Stones, vanishing platforms, and moon platforms would be moved to the Falling Platform article, the same way it looks in my preview.
2. Support: Only move Cascading Stone: The Super Mario Odyssey objects would not be touched.
3. Opppose: Keep them all split from one another

Proposer: Nintendo101 (talk)
Deadline: Dec. 28th, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support: Move them all!

1. Nintendo101 (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose: Keep them split

1. Rykitu (talk) Each are different enough from one another.