Talk:Fangamer

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Current time: Monday, December 23, 2024, 02:30 GMT

The only reason for this article's existence is mainly because Fangamer made merchandise for RareRacers, a brand inspired by Diddy Kong Racing. And... that's pretty much it. Nothing about the brand has any Donkey Kong or Super Mario branding whatsoever. Yes, Diddy Kong Racing was branded as a kart racer featuring Diddy Kong. However, this particular brand avoids any Donkey Kong references in favor of Rare's original characters who are now far removed from the original brand. We don't have articles for Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie, just because Tiptup appeared in those games. I do think it's worth mentioning in Diddy Kong Racing''s article, but that's about it.

Proposer: TheUndescribableGhost (talk)
Deadline: August 31, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. TheUndescribableGhost (talk) Per proposal
2. Super Mario RPG (talk) There's Diddy Kong then there's the Microsoft-owned cast of Diddy Kong Racing. Per proposer.

Oppose

1. Hewer (talk) Articles for merchandise brands are valid, and the Diddy Kong Racing characters (besides Banjo and Conker) aren't really "far removed from the original brand". They were created for and used in Diddy Kong Racing, a game we fully cover, so it makes sense to cover its merchandise.
2. Pseudo (talk) Per Hewer.
3. Mario (talk) Per Hewer. The article is primarily focused on Diddy Kong Racing (not necessarily just Rare characters), a game we do extensively cover in the wiki so it's not too far off we cover brands that deal with Diddy Kong Racing merchandise.
4. Arend (talk) Per all, also see comments.

Comments

Okay, so imagine, if you will, Fangamer got the rights from Square-Enix to make, say, a Geno plush, maybe a Mallow one too. Both as part of a Square-Enix collection. And these are the only two plushes they make outside of other original Square-Enix-owned characters because they need the rights from Nintendo for the Mario characters in Super Mario RPG; they can do Geno and Mallow just fine because those are owned by Square-Enix. Would one still think this page needs to be deleted because Square-Enix owns the characters and are """far removed from the Mario brand""", or is the page allowed to stay because Super Mario RPG is basically the ONLY game these two appear in?
You see, I feel like the Diddy Kong Racing cast is in a similar boat. Sure, it started out as a Pro-Am kart racer but then has Diddy plopped in for marketing, so one could say it's generally less attached because of this origin, but at the same time, we don't see any of the characters in any other Rare game. Timber is pretty much exclusive to Diddy Kong Racing, and so is Pipsy, and Drumstick, and Taj, and Wizpig. Hell, Krunch became a Kremling due to the rebrand! I think Tiptup and maybe T.T. are the only ones that made a cameo outside of Diddy Kong Racing. Point is, we all associate these characters with Diddy Kong Racing the same way we associate Geno and Mallow with Super Mario RPG, because that's the only games they respectively appear in, despite the fact that Nintendo owns none of those characters. And that's why I suppose covering Fangamer would be fine. (To be honest though, I was actually kinda surprised at first that Fangamer was allowed to make merch of the DKR cast with only Rare's permission) rend (talk) (edits) 17:33, August 17, 2024 (EDT)