Template talk:MK8

Proof of Bowser Jr's weight class

Since there's been a minor edit war on this Template over whether Bowser Jr is a Lightweight (like in Double Dash and Arcade GPDX) or a Middleweight (like in MK Wii), I think it's high time some sourced evidence was provided-

File:Mk8dwcbowserjr.png Video version- https://youtu.be/MX5E68tfSvc?t=15m17s

As you can clearly see, Bowser Jr's kart is the same size as Baby Luigi's (a Lightweight), while the Middleweight Luigi's is clearly larger. He is a Lightweight, end of story. --User:Burb 14:57, 11 February 2017 (EST)

Looks can be deceiving though. Metal Mario and Pink Gold Peach are classified as medium body frame characters, and yet they're among the heaviest characters in Mario Kart 8. While it's likely that Bowser Jr. will be in the lightweight category, we have yet to figure out if he has a unique stat spread or not. M&SG (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2017 (EST)

To be fair, the template as a whole is deceiving right now. Cat Peach and Female Villager are between Larryweights and Yoshiweights, yet she's classified as Middleweight, based on body frame size. I think we should use body frame sizes for the template.--Mister Wu (talk) 21:11, 11 February 2017 (EST)

All official material for the game states that there are three weight classes. This isn't Mario Kart 7 where Bowser and DK are in different classes; they're both regarded as Heavyweights in 8 regardless of Bowser having a higher weight stat. It doesn't matter that Cat Peach and Female Villager are lighter than all the Middleweights. They are still Middleweights. This isn't even unique to Mario Kart 8. In Super Circuit, Yoshi was heavier than Peach and Toad, and Bowser was heavier than DK and Wario. Both were called a Light and Heavyweight respectively despite the difference. In addition to that there is nothing to suggest that Bowser Jr is going to be a special case like the Metals, and have a frame size that doesn't match his weight stat. "He was Medium in Mario Kart Wii!" isn't a valid point, and it's the only argument that can really be made. All we have to base judgment off is the frame size, and because of that, we should consider him a Lightweight unless some official news actually comes out that says otherwise. --User:Burb 21:45, 11 February 2017 (EST)

Actually, it's the site that has three weight classes, the PRIMA guide states:

Racers in Mario Kart 8 are divided into five categories: Featherweight, Light, Medium, Heavy, and Cruiser. These weight classes are one of the key determining factors in kart and bike performance, influencing how you take and dish out contact with other racers, how well you drift, how much you benefit from drifting, how powerful your Mini-Turbos are, and how well you recover from getting struck by items. As a general rule, lighter-weight racers tend to have great acceleration and cornering, but suffer from lower top speeds and a tendency to get pushed around with great ease by heavier racers. The heavier racers have the highest top speeds in the game, but have issues with cornering, and their acceleration is very poor. Of course, a heavy racer can easily shove aside any smaller and lighter opponent!

Anyway, neither the PRIMA guide nor the official site classify Cat Peach and Female Villager, their placement is completely arbitrary, if we use weight as criterion.--Mister Wu (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2017 (EST)