Talk:Clubba

Why are the White Clubbas called albino? #1: that's not revealed in-game and #2: They don't seem to have pink eyes, even though most characters in that game have little dots for eyes. Lemmy Koopa Fan Lemmy Koopa Fan 18:14, 4 December 2009 (EST)

First of all, there are several types of albinism in the real world, not all of which result in pink eyes... Now, having got past that, yes; the word is used incorrectly. If it's such an issue for you, just changed it to "White-colored" or some variation thereof. Redstar 18:22, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Alright, I changed it to "white-colored", but the only reason I made this page is so I could check with someone before I made my edit (which I always do) and also, I was just trying to be logical (which, again, I always am) Lemmy Koopa FanLemmy Koopa Fan 22:37, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Grubba

Isn't Grubba a Clubba? I'manumber1 (talk) 22:50, December 12, 2021 (EST)

If so it should be added to the article. I'manumber1 (talk) 22:51, December 12, 2021 (EST)

This was touched on here. The long and short of it was that Spike's English name was inconsistent at the time of the first two Paper Mario games, and the localizers didn't pick up on Clubba's Japanese name connection to Spike, which is why Tubba Blubba and Grubba were renamed after Clubba despite not fitting Clubba's "club-wielding soldier" description. LinkTheLefty (talk) 02:20, December 13, 2021 (EST)

Consider Tubba Blubba and Grubba as Clubbas

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I'm aware the Japanese name of Clubba is derived from Spike's which is also the case for these two characters. However, there's also the fact that regular Spikes do not appear in these games with Clubbas being the only kind that do, and Clubbas along with these two characters don't spit spiked balls from their mouths. Although Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door also doesn't have normal Clubbas as enemies, Grubba's name and design does still alude to them.

Proposer: Swallow (talk)
Deadline: February 21, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Swallow (talk) Per Proposal
2. Sparks (talk) Per my comment below.

Oppose

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - I don't see no clubs, nor are these characters soldiers. They pun simply because they are the only Spikes present (and to be honest, with the slapdash localization jobs, they may have forgotten about what was at the time an obscure SMB3 enemy when naming these - note how SMW2 and YS also gave Spikes different names.)
2. DrippingYellow (talk) I think what Doc's trying to get at is: Clubbas are called ガボンへい ("Spike Soldiers") in the Japanese version, suggesting that Clubbas might not even be a separate "species" per se; they're just Spikes with clubs. Tubba and Grubba are Spikes without clubs; ergo, not Clubbas. The naming connection in English definitely ought to be acknowledged, though, but that's easily mentioned in the intro, and there's also the "Comparable" section of the infobox for this sort of blurry connection.

Comments

Clubbas look similar to Spikes, but they do have their differences, noticably their dot eyes and longer tail. I agree that Tubba Blubba and Grubba resemble Clubbas, and plus their names sound similar to "Clubba". Sparks (talk) 21:39, February 7, 2024 (EST)

The dot eyes (and orange lips, for that matter) are a carryover from the SMW2 sprites, like so many other things from the first three Paper Mario games. Don't use modern designs in reference to a specific era. ...also, Tubba Blubba doesn't even have the dot eyes, he has black sclera and glowing pupils, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove there. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:09, February 7, 2024 (EST)