Talk:History of Mario
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i dont understand why was this split? are we going to split other character history pages too now? Bowser article is ginormous
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by CoolNintendo (talk).
- I think the idea was brought up somewhere, but this really should have had a proposal first. Nightwicked Bowser 16:58, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- I saw a link to MarioWiki:Article size in the edit summary and it says that >100KB pages "almost certainly should be divided" so i think it's a rule here i guess. i actually think i approve of the rule because my computer in general sometimes lags when going on those articles -CoolNintendo
- Yeah I decided to split because our policy outlines it explicitly (it also helps with accessibility immensely, as you said with your computer; it's not easy loading with mine either and mine is a good pc), and it even has a listed example concerning Mario's page, mama mia. "For example, summarizing the "History" section of Mario to give a much more top-level overview and using {{main}} to link to a new page entitled "History of Mario"." Bowser's article SHOULD get a split, pronto too. The only reason it hasn't happened is that IMO the initiative hasn't been taken yet (it's not an easy undertaking). I decided just today to take it. Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:09, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- What about Wario -CoolNintendo
- Probably. As long as Nintendo continues treating him like a major recurring character, he's going to eventually need his own history. This probably also applies to recurring objects like Super Mushroom or Pipe, depends on how large the articles are for those, but I think we should focus on characters first. Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:12, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Okay thank you for explaing, I'm just new here and didn't understand what was going on. CoolNintendo (talk) 17:14, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- Probably. As long as Nintendo continues treating him like a major recurring character, he's going to eventually need his own history. This probably also applies to recurring objects like Super Mushroom or Pipe, depends on how large the articles are for those, but I think we should focus on characters first. Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:12, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- What about Wario -CoolNintendo
- Yeah I decided to split because our policy outlines it explicitly (it also helps with accessibility immensely, as you said with your computer; it's not easy loading with mine either and mine is a good pc), and it even has a listed example concerning Mario's page, mama mia. "For example, summarizing the "History" section of Mario to give a much more top-level overview and using {{main}} to link to a new page entitled "History of Mario"." Bowser's article SHOULD get a split, pronto too. The only reason it hasn't happened is that IMO the initiative hasn't been taken yet (it's not an easy undertaking). I decided just today to take it. Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:09, May 19, 2023 (EDT)
- I saw a link to MarioWiki:Article size in the edit summary and it says that >100KB pages "almost certainly should be divided" so i think it's a rule here i guess. i actually think i approve of the rule because my computer in general sometimes lags when going on those articles -CoolNintendo
Split again?
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This article already reached 100 KB, I think they should be split into new pages under a name like Mario Party history of Mario or History of Mario in Mario Party. Derekblue1(talk) 07:10, December 2, 2023 (EST)
- Interesting that you mention this because I asked an admin about it earlier. I agree with a split, but I'm currently uncertain of how one could do it efficiently or what will have to be split. Super Game Gear (talk) 07:33, December 2, 2023 (EST)
- Yes, and it is not only Mario. I noticed Luigi and Princess Peach; even Bowser's history is gigantic. I think we should split the article into different articles; the ones that can be left out are miscellaneous appearances. Derekblue1(talk) 09:18, December 2, 2023 (EST)
- I thought splitting histories from a character's page was already a dubious move. It is arguably the most important part of what a character's page should have (descriptions of their roles in each game), and moving it behind a separate page just adds one extra step that I do not like. With that said, I think splitting History pages further is even worse. How many links would I eventually need to jump through just because I looked up "Mario" so I could see what he did in Sparks of Hope? Or in Mario Party 5? From Mario to History of Mario, then to History of Mario in RPGs or something, then I have to go back and go to History of Mario in the Mario Party series. It seems like an unnecessary hassle to me, just to cut down on page sizes that are already mostly just plain txt. Would that really help with loading times? Or convenience? — Lady Sophie (T|C) 09:47, December 2, 2023 (EST)