Talk:Sumo Bro

Isn't the NSMB image a Sledge Bro.? Phoenix Rider

I think Sumo Bros. in NSMB resemble the Sledge Bros. from SMB 3. It's probably another name goof-up by Nintendo. -- Son of Suns

Check the Sledge Bro page, it says that Nintendo calls them Sumo Bros now. ;P
~ Luigi hc

Relation to Hammer Bro, or relation to Boom Boom? Or neither?

Looking at them, their mouth shape, and their shell front, I'd say these were actually intended to be either related to Boom Boom or their own distinct species of Koopa. The fact that their Japanese name is "K.K." and has no reference to Hammer Bros helps in that regard. I'd say that the relation to Hammer Bros is a localization thing. But to be sure, would someone who knows Japanese check their description from this guide? It's on page 77 [1]. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:47, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

The book doesn't directly state that Sumo Bros. have a relationship to Hammer Bros. - it lists their clan as Turtle Tribe, but that is in most Koopa profiles, including Hammer Bros. etc. It does, however, make a comparison to Sledge Bros. in the first sentence.

「ヒマンブロス(P171)に次ぐ超重量級キャラだ。」

("A super heavyweight character akin to Himan Bros.")

By the way, there are also Amazing Flyin' Hammer Brothers, which have the Japanese name "Appare" and isn't directly stated to be related, but the similarity is still noted in the second sentence.

「ハンマーブロス(P165)の仲間らしく、どんどんハンマーを投げ降ろしてくるので危ない。」

("Seemingly a companion of Hammer Bros., it dangerously throws down its hammers.")

I think they're fine the way they are. This is a case where the English names would appear to be making the connection clearer, not quite just making it up. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:30, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

Given Mario Kart Tour's Hammer Bro Tour and a line in Paper Mario: Color Splash indicating that the core "family" of Bros. consists of Hammer Bro, Boomerang Bro, Fire Bro, and Ice Bro (with the Super Mario Maker series cementing Sledge Bro as the equivalent of "Big Hammer Bro"), I'm open to reconsidering Sumo Bro's relation to Hammer Bro. If we do, I suggest replacing Hammer Bro as parent species with Sledge Bro as related species, given the above and the fact that Sledge Bro was called Sumo Bro for a while (likely as a consequence of Sledge Bro being renamed in Japanese). LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:52, April 8, 2020 (EDT)

I'd like that. The only physical indication they're related to Hammer Bros. is the Border Bros' faces looking vaguely similar. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:03, April 8, 2020 (EDT)

OK, so in Paper Mario: The Origami King, this is what Olivia has to say about Sumo Bros. when they appear with Boss Sumo Bro:

They're so cuuuuute! Heehee! Do you think they're related? I mean, they must be called Sumo BROS. for a reason... They're the littlest little bros. I've ever seen! We can go a little easy on them, right?

The implication is that "bro" is literal and retroactively connected with Boss Sumo Bro, not Hammer Bro. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:30, July 16, 2020 (EDT)