MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived. All past Merges & Splits proposals are archived here. A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~). How To Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at: Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm) Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm) Sunday: 15:00 (3pm) Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line. At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as 'NO QUORUM' A user calls the result of the proposal and takes action(s) as decided if necessary, and archives the proposal. The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights). So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours. CURRENTLY: 04:45, 1 December 2024 (EDT) New Features Videos For Articles I propose we add videos to articles such as Mario Party Mini Games so we can see what the mini games are actually like instead of having to imagine what it would be like. Proposer:File:MP8 DryBones.jpgSuper Yoshi10Lookey This Deadline: 19:00, Oct. 23 Add Them Reasons given above. File:MP8 DryBones.jpgSuper Yoshi10Lookey This rend (talk) (edits) That's such a good idea! Shrooby Talk We already have <youtube> (my idea) but we can only use on userpages! Steve thinks that they have so bad quality but we put the videos on the articles but with links I don't see the difference! Yes. Not just mini-games, but videos for all sorts of articles. In fact, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING TODAY (they're under a section I called "Have a Look!")! Check out my first one on the Super Mario Bros. article. And I'll keep on finding more if I wan't to. All you have to do to stop me is deny this proposal. You know, I was thinking of doing this proposal anyway, but instead, I'm making it happen.Mr.Benio 20:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT) Glowsquid I think that these videos could be useful on article about obscure glitches or Beta Elements, I don't think we should link to Youtube on every pages thought. --[[User:Nasakid|Zach121]] 21:53, 21 October 2007 (EDT) Add them Yes, videos help User:Gowser Youtube links are used in the halopedia articles, why not here? Master Crash Don't Add Them My Bloody Valentine The article already states what the Mini-game does. No need for videos. Besides, it would be VERY hard to upload movies. I have horribly slow internet, and webpages with movies would take way to long for my computer to load. The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShyGuy27 (talk). Ghost Jam We tried this long ago. Didn't work out so well. -- Chris 15:57, 16 October 2007 (EDT) Walkazo - Per Shyguy27. And even though my computer's not slow all the time, movies eat up SO much memory: I wouldn't be able to see images after three pages with videos, and three pages after that, the computer itself would stop working right. Other people are bound to have similar problems... Per Walkazo XzelionETC King Mario ~PY -Per DP. What's the point? This isn't a virtual reality video game. ~Uniju(T-C-E) Per DP. It makes articles look less professional. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Links to (important) movies can be put on some pages, but we shouldn't flood the wiki with superflous, mostly low-res videos. Stumpers! I'm changing my vote based on DP and Uniju's comments regarding professionalism. I could see linking working well in the cases I was talking about (trailers, etc.) Also, Youtube just sloooowed down a brand new computer in my house and reminded me just how finicky bandwidth was. Sorry, guys. :( Comments Super Yoshi, PLEASE vote yourself! Also, FOR GOODNESS SAKES!! You didn't add any vote sections to this Proposal! Yeesh, anyone would have enough common sense to add the vote sections! My Bloody Valentine No, he gets MY vote! rend (talk) (edits) Pokemon DP:Never heard of the Youtube tag? Arend: I think Pokemon DP was talking about the fact that Super Yoshi didn't add any section to vote. Glowsquid Glowsquid: It doesn't matter, movies don't seem very much needed on articles. I would say use that Youtube tag only on Userpages. My Bloody Valentine I agree, but I was only pointing out that it wouldn't be "it would be VERY hard to upload movies", like you said. Glowsquid Who was Oppose voter #2? PP Shroobario I think u put ur vote on the wrong 1 King Mario All we have to do is put links on the article to the video. It's so simple everyone can do it. Everyone SHOULD do it if they want to help out. Mr.Benio 20:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT) You could do something like this on the 'Shroom, like a Video of the Issue? I don't care if it says we can only use youtube on user pages! Just change that law. Oh and Shy guy 27 Just because you have slow internet doesn't mean we all have a slow computer! The wiki is not just centered on you you know! File:MP8 DryBones.jpgSuper Yoshi10Lookey This You can't simply change that rule. Porplemontage set that rule up for a reason! We can ONLY use the Youtube extension on Userpages, get used to it! And also, we must respect other Users computer issues. If they have a slow computer, that means Youtube extensions will slow down their computer and, yes, probably even freeze their computer. They will get REALLY mad at us for it. My Bloody Valentine You are acting like a real brat. DP, stop it with the flaming and the stuff. You activate Youtube by clicking first. Though I think videos should only be used on userpages and to show trailers of a game. Plumber 23:16, 17 October 2007 (EDT) Mr Benio: You can't do anything untill the proposal is done, not before it's archived Mr. Guy the GuyBBBRRRBBBE Sorry baby, but I put so many on (about 82 articles) already that there is no need to continue pondering this proposal. I gotta keep it up. Why not just give in and help me out? Mr.Benio Okay, snooty. Until this thing is accepted (which it will be), I'll be putting them on a Word Document sheet. Happy? Mr.Benio You shouldn't be too confident about it. Glowsquid, You can't just say that since you've started spamming the article with video, the proposal is pointless, it's the community that should decide that, we can remove these link if the proposal don't pass. I hope not, because I've been finding more, and my brother's been helping, too. It would be a shame and a complete waste of time if this did not pass. It must. If not...well, at least I'll look forward to doing some more for my "Gaming Acheivements" section on my homepage... As a matter of fact, I should stop for a while, for college has gotten harder, and I should be working on my clases a bit more. But, if it passes, I will continue every now and then (GO SUPER YOSHI! MAKE IT HAPPEN!). Mr.Benio This'll be the best thing to happen to these articles scince...writing them!! Mr.Benio Would the opposition change their minds if they might be able to put sites of videos on their homepage, hmmm? Mr.Benio I don't oppose the idea of putting Youtube video on page, but I tihnk we shouldn't put a Youtube link on every page. I think that the Youtube Video tag should be used for thing like obscure bugs and Beta Elements, I don't think we should link to Youtube in the Crystal King article when the battle is already described well in the article itself. Glowsquid To quote DP (don't worry, I'm not going to be a brat and slam you or anything): "Porplemontage set that rule up for a reason! We can ONLY use the Youtube extension on Userpages, get used to it!" You went on to say that it was because of people with really slow computers would freeze up. Do you have another reason, too? The way you wrote it was a tad confusing is all. My Internet varies from time to time in regards to speed (never blazingly fast, mind you), but just using the Wiki seems to slow it down right now. Loading that sample YouTube video didn't do anything bad to it. Stumpers! 21:18, 21 October 2007 (EDT) I am basically saying that it might cause problems to computers with slow internet. It also makes an article look unprofessional, as Uniju said. My Bloody Valentine At least people will get a better idea on what they look like! Not all screenshots say it all (especially some on this site)! Don't you think it would be better if they saw these things after reading the descriptioins so that they won't have a bad guess on what those things would look like (because I've had a fair share of that problem!)? Mr.Benio A lot of the time pictures would suffice in showing us what the thing looks like... Anyway, I'm sticking by my (and others') complaint that YouTube videos will slow down and crash plenty of computers (mine included). However, I think putting links to YouTube videos on the pages is a good idea. That way people who can view that stuff will be able to get a better understanding of the subject matter, and those of us who can't won't get penalized. - Walkazo Removals Unoffical Music Articles We have articles on Music on this Wiki. Quite a few of them are official CD's released by Nintendo, or some Company associated with Nintendo. BUT! It also seems we have articles on music that were NOT put on official CD, aka, In-game songs and themes (an example being List of Songs in Super Smash Bros. Melee, which is listing the music tracks in the actual game, but NOT the music tracks on the Official CD). I propose we remove all In-game songs and themes, and keep only the music articles on official soundtracks that were released by a REAL Company. Proposer: Pokemon DP Deadline: 22:00, Oct. 24 Remove all In-game songs and themes My Bloody Valentine I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above. Keep Them Plumber If the songs were ripped from the game, they are official. 23:18, 17 October 2007 (EDT) ~Uniju(T-C-E)Per Plumber. Stumpers! Nintendo is an official company, obviously, so by your arguement we should be keeping them rather than removing them, as long as we note that the tracks in question did not appear on the official CD. Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean we can't post about them. I mean, we have an article about Hotel Mario, but that wasn't affiliated with Nintendo even. Nintendo's offical music should be in then, right? Comments I don't think we should completely get rid of them. There should be a track listing in the game's own article. -- Son of Suns Heres a good compromise. Remove the lists, move them to the appropriate articles and replace the names with those from the official sound tracks. No official name? Then it's not on the list. -- Chris 14:00, 17 October 2007 (EDT) We agree with SoS, the song's aren't officially named, but they are official. - Walkazo and PP I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying. My Bloody Valentine 1. List of Songs in Super Mario Kart, move all that crap to Super Mario Kart (including download link). 2. If the name of those tracks can't be verified, add a citation needed tag next to it. 3. Run through all the articles about published game OSTs. Track for SMK have a name on one of those albums? Use that one in the article instead of X Theme. -- Chris 01:36, 18 October 2007 (EDT) DP: We just meant that the somgs are conjectural, but still valid. It's a shame we can't get official names (same with all other conjectural information), but the info itself is still canocal and worthy of a place on the wiki. - Walkazo OK, can we, instead, remove those In-Game articles and merge them with the actual game article? My Bloody Valentine If so, you can completely ignore this Proposal. But if an actual soundtrack has been released onto a CD, that article is kept, correct? -- Son of Suns Tough call, I know how you want every named Mario-related thing to have an article, SoS, but how much could we really write about these songs? How long they are, what CDs and/or video games they're in, whose theme songs they are (if applicable), the actual lyrics... but what else? Maybe all the officially-named songs should be put in articles for the CDs they're relased on (to make sure we don't end up with a bunch of stubs that get deleted). And as DP said, all the unnamed songs can just be part of the game articles. - Walkazo Quotes? Lately i've been searching around the wikis quotes, and have seen quotes like "whupee heeheeheehee!" when thats just a bunch of giberious and also something like AHHH!!! thats just someone yelling! should we get rid of these? Proposer: Master Crash Deadline: 22:00, Nov. 4th Remove Master Crash my Reason is given above Glowsquid I agree, quotes like "AHHHH!!!!" are useless and make the wiki look less professional. Luigibros2 they are very useless quotes that make us seem like we well add any thing to articles. My Bloody Valentine A perfect example of a good quote, can be seen on Snake's article. Quotes like "AHHHH!!!!" have no meaning, as Glowsquid says. €zlo Zakor1138 'Nuff said. Keep Comments At the very least, they shouldn't be the lead-in quote. -- Son of Suns I'm conflicted on this one. True, things like "Ahhh!" are a bit redundant in principle. But if you know the context it could have meaning. For instance, in one of the Mario Party games, Peach goes, "Booooo!" Alone that sounds like a pointless, generic utterance, but if you actually hear it, it's hilarious! All in all, I just can't decide which way to vote. - Walkazo See, most of the point in the quote on the page is to show the personality of the character. So, unless the screams have something to do with the personality of the character, remove them. Example: Instead of having "Princess Peach!" as Peach's quote have "Oh? Did I win?" so we can see a bit about her personality...and stuff like that... Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! Definately get rid of them from the "main quote" thing, but can you leave them in the article? Check out Daisy's quote page for what I'm talking about. Stumpers! 22:49, 22 October 2007 (EDT) "What Other Users Think Of Me Lists" These things are just dumb. We got rid of Cool User Lists, and these are only worse. As you can most likely see, they have caused nothing but bad, and flame wars. Some of these might be OK(Like Xzelion's), but others go over the limit(Like Pokemon DP's, even if they are all MY quotes. <_<). These are mostly just the depressed people trying to make themselves look more hated, anyway, *continues into a long rant about DP that would getting him ****ing banned if he actually said it*. Therefor, I propose that we ban these, as we did with the Cool User Lists(Which NEVER ACTUALLY CAUSED ANYTHING!). Proposer: Uniju :D Remove ~Uniju(T-C-E)I am the proposer, and, blah, blah, blah... Keep My Bloody Valentine Hey, if someone flames someone, the Wiki has a right to know about it! These lists show which people have flamed who, allowing them to get what they deserve when they flame. And, you only made this proposal because you are mad at me for adding all of your flames towards me onto my list. You coult end up becoming banned for what you wrote on this Proposal! Zakor1138 Just cause its for good intentions. So what? If you act like a lurdo [1] everyone should know 'bout it. Comments DP: -_-' Why do YOU ALWAYS THINK THAT MY REASONS ARE SELF-CENTERED? WHY THE H*** CAN'T YOU JUST DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT I'M NOT DOING THINGS FOR ONLY MYSELF!!!!! ~Uniju(T-C-E) Did I see some anger? It is the path to the dark side![2] Zakor1138 Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down, Uniju. You continue like that, you will get in BIG trouble. My Bloody Valentine Changes None at the moment. Merges and Splits Time Machines Page The Time Machine page consists of three officially named (one being conjectural) Time Machines, all with significant content to have its own article. Also they effect gameplay (sorta). Proposer: Xzelion (talk) Deadline: October 29th, 17:00 Support Split XzelionETC Per Above Booster -- Three of them are officially named, and have different designs and functions. Walkazo - Per all. Dodoman - Per all (except Walkazo >_>). Stumpers! On one condition: see below. My Bloody Valentine Per all. Oppose Split Comments My vote stands as long as we can use the Time Machine page to discuss the concept of time machines... and we could do double duty by listing time machines on the article and making it a psudo-disambiguation page. Sound good? Of course, if you want to just make the article disambiguation until someone gets around to writing it, be my guest. Stumpers! 22:45, 22 October 2007 (EDT) Miscellaneous None at the moment.