Talk:Lakitu (character)

Is this even necessary? He's a minor character with a very minor cameo in the Mario & Luigi games (and the unreleased Mario Kart 7) and all this information is on the page for generic Lakitus! Oh, and if this must stay, what about the Lakitu in BiS? Technickal 19:09, 26 November 2011 (EST)

In BiS the red-shelled Lakitu was replaced with a standard green-shelled one. -Four Paper Heroes 19:14, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I'm agreeing with the motion to delete this. The Mario & Luigi appearances are too short and generic to count for anything and being a PC in Mario Kart with a differently-coloured shell doesn' mean much if he still has a generic species name. Of course, if anyone disagre... --Glowsquid 19:54, 26 November 2011 (EST)

That's a silly reason. It's only concerned on the Red-shelled Lakitu, of course he is not the same as all the Lakitu species. I'm against the delete. You could've just change the infos of the Lakitu page.--Prince Ludwig 19:58, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I'm actually for its deletion. It's too minor a character in ML:PiT and ML:SS. And as Glowsquid said, the different colored shell doesn't make it any different from others. This is why Wiggler, though appearing in MK7 as well, doesn't have its own article for that appearance. --FREAK ~Game Freak~ OUT!

No difference? What makes you think that the Lakitu is actually the same as all the Lakitus? A red-shelled Lakitu who is now a racer and an ally of the Mario Bros.? And a green-shelled Lakitu who often appears as an enemy or plays the role of a Fishin' Lakitu in the Mario Kart series? Hm? Think about it. You can't say that as if a Lakitu could change his color just simply by painting it or something like that...Of course, he's a seperate character.--Prince Ludwig 20:04, 26 November 2011 (EST)

In PiT you can't see the red shell because the Lakitu's back is turned anyway! Mario Kart 7 hasn't even been released anywhere yet, so we should wait on that. Just because the shell is a different color doesn't mean it's a separate character (even if the shell is naturally that color). Do we have separate pages for green and red-shelled Koopa Troopas? (besides the shells?) Technickal 20:13, 26 November 2011 (EST)

There are other normal Lakitus that aren't hostile to Mario (mostly in SMRPG) and shell colour doesn't mean anything - Green and Red (and blue, and yellow, and flashing...)-shelled Koopas don't have separate pages despite being more different (due to AI behaviours) from each-other than this Lakitu is from other Lakitus. You're going to need a stronger case. --Glowsquid 20:15, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Listen Technickal, we are five days before the release of this game in Japan. Now is not the time being complaining about it. He is a seperate character. This article isn't about a species of red-shelled Lakitus. There were only one red-shelled Lakitu seen throught the series, this Lakitu. Don't compare him to Koopa Troopas because they are different, except that he's the same as Metal Mario.--Prince Ludwig 20:23, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Per GameFreak. It's too minor to have its own article. RandomYoshi^{(Talk • PMs • C)} 21:07, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Per Glowsquid. PikaSamus (talk)

It's five days early to be much more "Official" than minor. There lots of minor characters out there who got their own articles. Leave Lakitu out of this plz.--Prince Ludwig 22:18, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I agree with all the calls for deletion it's two minor Raven Effect (talk)

Why are you so impatient before the release of the game?--Prince Ludwig 22:22, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Also there is no confrimation that this Lakitu is the same one in all 3 games it could just be some random lakitu with a red shell Raven Effect (talk)

It may could be both pal, but no. You can't say it's random since there were only one red-shelled Lakitu. It's the same for Yoshi, considering some Green Yoshis, even Super Mario Sunshine's, to be him. And DON'T erase this article.--Prince Ludwig 22:33, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I am also all for deleting this article. Per all except Ludwig Jazama 22:39, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I don't think you are...You just don't like me. Tell me, why can't you at least wait for five days? Mario Kart 7 will be released soon. It's useless to delete or want to delete it.--Prince Ludwig 22:41, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Are you blind nobody wants to delete the article because the games not out yet Raven Effect (talk)

No. Because Lakitu's appearance will be more official in Mario Kart 7 and you keep saying that he's a minor character, or probably that he makes a minor appearance in the Mario & Luigi series. Are you blind that Mario Kart7's gonna be released in Japan in December 1, 2011?--Prince Ludwig 22:44, 26 November 2011 (EST)

That has nothing with my argument my argument is that there is no difference between this lakitu and a regular lakitu except the shell color and we don't have articles on red shelled koopa troopas nor do we have articles on the koopa troopas that appear in Mario Kart Raven Effect (talk)

There we go again...I just told them before you, there is only 1 red-shelled Lakitu, the character, that is. And the green-shelled Lakitu often appears as a Fishin' Lakitu in the Mario Kart series. Where else have you seen a red-shelled Lakitu besides Mario Kart 7 and the Mario & Luigi series anyway? No where else than these games dude. Maybe he acts the same, but the difference is his appearance and him being an ally of the Mario Bros.--Prince Ludwig 22:50, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Prove that they are the same characters. Prove that they aren't just a generic Lakitu with a red shell Raven Effect (talk)

(Do I really have to? *facepalm) Just 1 red-shelled Lakitu, not two or plus. We haven't seen another red-shelled Lakitu besides this Lakitu. If you are imagining or seen another one, tell me. Have you ever seen a green-shelled Lakitu who races in the Mario Kart series? He's not just a Lakitu, it shows him to be different. He doesn't have a clould when he drives his kart.--Prince Ludwig 23:00, 26 November 2011 (EST)

Delete This Page

As per the title. Seeing the argument above, how about we make an official proprosal.

Proposer: Jazama (talk)
Deadline: December 11, 2011 23:59 GMT.

Support

1. Jazama (talk) Like what everybody said, this "character" is too minor for his own article.
2. Raven Effect (talk) Per all the arguments given to delete this article
3. Technickal (talk) Per all except Ludwig
4. Glowsquid (talk) - per my reasoning above.
5. RandomYoshi (talk) — per me in the comments above this TPP.

Oppose

1. Prince Ludwig (talk) What the heck do you mean by "refuses to see sense", it's one of these supporters for deletion. It's useless to wait until December 2, 2011, since Mario Kart 7's gonna be released in Japan in December 1, within five days.
2. Tails777 (talk) Per Prince Ludwig. We have many minor character articles. What makes this one so different?
3. King Booranha (talk) Per Prince ludwig. He is One character. Have you ever seen two or more at the same time? It doesn't matter if it's a minor character or not.
4. Toad85 (talk) If we delete this, we might as well delete every other one-off or extremely minor character we have an article for. Per all.