MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then start to discuss on the issue. 24 hours after posting the proposal (rounding up or down to the next or previous full hour, respectively, is allowed), the voting period begins. (The proposer is allowed to support their proposal right after posting.) Each proposal ends at the end of the day one week after voting start. (All times GMT).
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. The voter can remove or rewrite his/her own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another User's vote lies solely with the Administrators.
5. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
6. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
8. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
9. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
10. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
11. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
12. Proposals cannot be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
13. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in GMT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Monday night at 23:59 GMT, the deadline is the night of the Tuesday of the next week at 23:59 PM. If it is posted a minute later, the deadline is 23:59 PM of the Wednesday of the next week, since midnight is considered to be part of the next day, as 00:00 AM.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example how your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

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===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Voting start''': [insert a voting start time here, f.e. "2 January, 2010, 14:00". Voting start times are 24 hours after the time at which the proposal was posted, as described in Rule 2 above.]<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the voting start, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

How To

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages effected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. There is no 24 hour delay between the posting of a talk page proposal and the commencement of voting.
4. Talk page proposals may closed by the proposer if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

• Merge Lakitu Travel into List of Implied Organizations (Discuss) Extended: September 15, 2010 at 23:59 GMT.
• Merge Nurse Toadstool into Princess Peach (Discuss) Deadline: September 18th, 2010 at 23:59 GMT.
• Merge Mega Mushroom House into Toad's House (Discuss) Deadline: September 27, 2010 23:59 GMT.

New Features

None at the moment

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Main Page Dilemma

Lately, we have gotten many proposals dealing with none other than the main page. "Remove FI's.", "Bring back the Polls.", "Fit all content on Main Page." and so on and so forth. Why can't we just settle that and try to please all of them?

FI's and the calendar that told of interesting facts of that month was personally one of my favorite MP templates, but now they are deleted. We have Polls and now the 'Shroom template, which is also good, yet I really missed some of them that have faded into obscurity. What I propose is that we feature all those templates we all love and enjoy their presence on the main page! Before you go thinking that I am the fit all content on MP proposal, well read on.

We don't need to have all of them on all at once, or else an overload of data would constantly cause a big list of problems. My proposal here is to make a schedule and trade places with the Main Page! To help you understand what I am aiming at, let me describe it for you.

Week 1 -

• FA template
• Did You Know
• 'Shroom
• Latest Proposals
• M/Nin News
• Polls

Week 2 - This is just an example of what we could change. Not saying this would be the exact change.

• FA - to - FI template
• Did You Know - to - Quotes (Hand-written into seperate template like the DYK.)
• 'Shroom
• Latest Proposals
• M/Nin News
• Polls - to - Monthly Calendar

Week 3 - Back to Week 1.

It would be a MAJOR change for us all, and I wouldn't doubt that it would be hard, but at least picture of such quality and awesomeness we would have for the main page! If we just timed each template correctly, from my calculations, then it should work out perfectly! I know that you all have your opinions about this, so I think I will wrap up this proposal. Just remember that even though it would be some difficult work getting everything started, we could be able to make an outstanding Main Page to satify all!!!

Proposer:Baby Mario Bloops (talk)
Voting start:18 September 2010, 00:00 GMT
Voting closes:25 September 2010, 00:00 GMT

Support

1. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Per MY proposal.

Comments

No. Having a differentiating main page is a bad idea. When someone comes to look for FAs, they'll find FIs. When someone looks for the calendar, they will find the polls. The calendar has to be a month-long thing if it is there at all, stuff doesn't just stop because we remove it from the main page. Furthermore, the FI template was removed from the main page because the process was shut down for a reason. Not to clear up the main page; the FI process is not good enough. And quotes will have the same problems. This proposal is just too inconsistent, we need to have some of those things for a month-long period or not at all. Other things will have bad nomination processes because they are matters of opinions. Sorry but this proposal is not a good idea in my opinion. Marioguy1 (talk)

It is just an idea, and let me see if I can reason with your logic. The Quotes would be made in the same format as the Did You Know? so that we don't have that problem. The calendar we could make it for weekly so that we could show what happens for two weeks (the week it being on and the week it won't be on). FI's did have so trouble with the process and all, so I decide that we should re-cycle the ones we have for the FI if this passes of pure luck. Also, what I have shown above was just a random example of what could be, just to help better image the idea I am creating. I need to make a test page and show everyone what I plan could work out, so give me time to do that and then I will post the links for you to further see my plans. Also, it was just an idea for solving the dilemma of "I want this" and "I want that", so it will either be a win or lose, majority wise. Baby Mario Bloops (talk)

Well, if the idea is destined to become a reality and I object the idea, I must show why. Now let me explain further. Quotes would be updated once weekly but what would be considered a good quote? We just find a random quote and post it? How is that any different than the quote of the day from a while ago? Nobody cares enough to want to see a quote and if they want to, the old template is much more useful. The did you know is actually entertaining to read. The calendar can not be there half the time and not there the other half, a calendar has to be there 24/7. Recycling FIs will also get boring, it is much better to just have a constantly shifting article on the main page. I don't think a test page could really show the theory behind the disorganization of a temporary calendar or the redundancy of reusing Featured Images. A test page can't show all of those things, it'll look good, I'm sure, but it won't be a good concept for the above reasons. Marioguy1 (talk)

This will just end in a chaotic mess. The inconsistency will reflect badly on our website. Sorry, but no. - Edofenrir (talk)

Maybe creating this proposal was not such a good idea, but I still want to see what people think of this. I don't think I will delete it, as I really do want to see the outcome (even if 1-30). It is an idea that is possible, and if done correctly and organized just right would be amazing. But of course, all that there is in need is the inconsistency to fix. I understand that, and I need to figure out how to overcome that, but with some time and previews, I will try to find a way to make my proposal worth it. All we really need is users willing to keep track of all that and be able to consistently swap templates. Baby Mario Bloops (talk)

Okay, Test 1 and Test 2 are given right here in those links. Test 2 will be edited a lot to tinker with what should and shouldn't be where. The Quote shall now be updated every day (and I can easily help keep track of that) if this passes. Of course we still have to deal with the dilemma about the Calendar, as that is the main problem I need to figure out, but I think with time I can come up with something. Baby Mario Bloops (talk)

It's just plain crazy how you did it. I don't understand how you just copied the entire Main Page. But...wasn't the Mario Calender mainly useless, and was that why it was deleted? LuigiMania (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.