MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then start to discuss on the issue. 24 hours after posting the proposal (rounding up or down to the next or previous full hour, respectively, is allowed), the voting period begins. (The proposer is allowed to support their proposal right after posting.) Each proposal ends at the end of the day one week after voting start. (All times GMT).
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. The voter can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another User's vote lies solely with the Administrators.
5. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
6. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
8. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
9. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
10. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
11. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
12. Proposals cannot be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
13. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in GMT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Monday night at 23:59 GMT, the deadline is the night of the Tuesday of the next week at 23:59 PM. If it is posted a minute later, the deadline is 23:59 PM of the Wednesday of the next week, since midnight is considered to be part of the next day, as 00:00 AM.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example how your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

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===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Voting start''': [insert a voting start time here, f.e. "2 January, 2010, 14:00". Voting start times are 24 hours after the time at which the proposal was posted, as described in Rule 2 above.]<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the voting start, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on anoother user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

How To

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages effected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. There is no 24 hour delay between the posting of a talk page proposal and the commencement of voting.
4. Talk page proposals may closed by the proposer if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

• Split Template:Fakelink from Star Hill. (Discuss) Passed
• Split the weekly microgames from NinSoft and contests in WarioWare: D.I.Y. into separate pages. (Discuss) Overtime
• Split 1-Up Super from 1-Up Mushroom. (Discuss). Deadline: July 10 2010, 24:00
• Merge Giant Spiked Ball into Spiked Ball. (Discuss). Deadline: July 19, 2010, 23:59
• Merge Mad Big Boo into Mad Boo. (Discuss). Deadline: July 19, 2010, 23:59

New Features

None at the moment

Removals

None at the moment

Changes

None at the moment

Miscellaneous

Replace Super Mario Wiki's Logo

Since the Logo is viewable from every page of the entire wiki, I think it should be replaced by something better. No offense to whoever created the current picture, but for me, it just doesn't fit. So, I created a possible alternative to it which you can see here: [1] It's a mix between Wikipedia's logo and Mario's head. I'm not saying that the current logo has to be replaced with my version, just that it has to be replaced. But if you all like my new logo, I wouldn't mind seeing it on the wiki.

Proposer: Nelde (talk)
Voting start: 4 July, 2010, 16:10
Deadline: 23:59, 13 July, 2010

Support

1. Nelde (talk) Per my proposal.
2. Nerfman2227 (talk) I think the new logo is genius, and, personally, I don't think people would see the logo and say that we are affiliated w/ Wikipedia. Most people should immediately recognize Mario's trademark moustache.
3. Damariogamr (talk) Not bad, but it looks a little more like Starship Mario. But that's not a complaint.

Oppose

1. Commander Code-8 (talk) I think the current logo is fine. And Per the users in the comments who believe that the new image basically copies Wikipedia.
2. Twentytwofiftyseven (talk) We're not affiliated with Wikipedia. This logo will likely make many people new to the wiki think the opposite.
3. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! I get where you're comming from but even though the logo is original the current one we have is fine and original also. Zero signing out.
4. Walkazo (talk) - Per all. Also, since our logo is used in NIWA affairs, changing it requires a fair bit of effort all over the place, so unless something is so great that it just has to be our new logo, it would be best to stick with the current design.
5. Edofenrir (talk) - Per 2257, per Walkazo, and per myself in the comments section.
6. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Sadly, per all. "Wiki" itself is enough to make new people assume we are affiliated with the wiki. The logo looks nice, but it looks too similar to the Wikipedia logo.
7. Stooben Rooben (talk) - Per all, including myself in the comments section below.
8. KS3 (talk) Per everyone and everyone in the comments.
9. BluePikminKong497 (talk) Per Stoob.
10. 4DJONG (talk) Well, we are not affiliated with Wikipedia, and it looks somewhat like what would happen if Mario received a head-cracking head shot. Plus, we are not a ripoff of Wikipedia.
11. Alexfusco5 (talk) Maybe a new logo wouldn't be a terrible idea but the Wikipedia one is not a good alternative and I'm pretty sure its a copyvio
12. LuigiMania (talk) Per all.
13. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per all.
14. MeritC (talk) Per all. That logo itself that I see wouldn't be one that I'd recommend using.
15. Mario jc (talk) Per all. Nice logo, Nelde, but the original is fine.
16. M&SG (talk) – Image might look good, but there will be copyright issues if it gets used; logo is the property of Wikipedia, which the Mario Wiki isn't affiliated with.
17. (Green Falcon) The current logo is too beautiful to be replaced.

It's a tough desicion, but I'm going for the first logo.

Comments

I like originality, though. I think the current logo is fine too. But, it's a matter of taste, not objective facts. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Personally, I don't like borrowing logos. I mean, the logo you created was borrowed from wikipedia and Mario's face was borrowed from Starship Mario. Besides, that Mario head is creepy, in my opinion. Make the Mario head a mushroom, and I'll be happy! LeftyGreenMario (talk)

@LeftyGreenMario: Which Mario head do you mean? The one above the mushroom emblem? Nelde (talk)

The whole logo is Mario's head with pieces flying away at the top. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

It reminds me of the logo of Earthbound Wiki (anyone at NIWA should know this)
The preceding unsigned comment was added by KS3 (talk).

Er... is it just me or does the lower left of the picture have the Pikmin logo from brawl? LuigiMania (talk)

I am Zero! @LuigiMania: That is Daisy's emblem. At first I thought this was a joke proposal, but I like the originality also, but that logo will do better if when you enter the SMW it will be similar to Wikipedia, instead of the main page, a page with nothing but that logo and a search bar if you understand. Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

@Zero: So basically this? BTW, I like the logo but the current logo is just as good - logos are logos; they all depict different things but pretty much all work. May I also suggest that if this proposal does not pass, you make a personal Monobook.css page and then implement your logo? Marioguy1 (talk)

It's a fine logo - I personally like it - but I agree with LeftyGreenMario. I think we should run this by Porplemontage/Steve - the wiki's creator. Bowser's luma (talk)

I don't really have a problem with our old logo. 'tis fine. A logo is a statement about a website, and your logo basically states "Look here, we are a rip-off of Wikipedia!". I don't want to be a rip-off of Wikipedia, though. - Edofenrir (talk)

You know, if you don't like the logo, you can just change it in your monobook. -- Stooben Rooben (talk)

His logo is freaking awesome. Booderdash (talk)

Well, @Edofenrir: I agree, and I still think this logo is inappropriate because there are 5 year olds on the wiki, the proposed logo looks like Mario is receiving a head-cracking head-shot with no blood. 4DJONG (talk)

TPPs on Main Page

A week or two ago their were no proposals up so nothing appeared on the proposal box on the main page, so I propose when that happens then we should put the TPPs into the proposal box on the main page when no proposals are made. See when their are no proposals then the box is blank with nothing in it except "No proposals at the time", to a visitors point of view a blank box only saying that looks obscure and unprofessional, it make it look like if we don't do that much to better improve the SMW.

Proposer: Zero777 (talk)
Voting start: 6 July, 2010 15:30
Deadline: 13 July, 2010 15:30

Support

1. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Per proposal. Zero signing out.
2. Commander Code-8 (talk) Per the proposal.

Comments

I'd vote and support but I'm not to sure about the time as I'm Austraian. I'll wait till tomorrow. Commander Code-8 (talk)

I'm not entirely sure if switching back and forth between two different topics depending on if there is a current proposal or not will make us look any more professional. It might seem random and confusing to guests to see a proposal on one day, and a list of things on the other. Maybe that's just me, tough, I probably need to see it in practice. - Edofenrir (talk)

Maybe we should have a section underneath the proposal about the TPPs. KS3 (talk)

No, that would add needless clutter to have Proposals and TPPs on the Main Page. Maybe we should just choose one TPP (the one ending soonest) and make a blurb about it on the main page as if it were a regular proposal: then the template would be consistent and almost always in use: everyone gets what they want. - Walkazo (talk)

I am Zero! @Walkazo, no I'm not saying to add the TPPs into the proposal box while a proposal is there, I'm saying when their are no proposals then we put the TPP list in. Zero signing out. Zero777 (talk)

I knew that: my opening comment was addressing KS3's suggestion to have both. - Walkazo (talk)

Erm... what ARE TPPs? LuigiMania (talk)

Milk shake those abbreviations. It's Talk Page Proposals. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Do you ever remember that I had the same idea before? [2] For some reason Steve removed it despite the question. Coincollector (talk)