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Recently on the wiki's Discord server, the user PalaceSwitcher brought out how inconsistent the recipe tables are for ''Paper Mario'' series item pages. They even went through every page and categorized how the tables on each differ, determining that '''12''' variations exist. 12! Dreadful. Where's the <s>lamb sauce</s> consistency?!
Recently on the wiki's Discord server, the user PalaceSwitcher brought out how inconsistent the recipe tables are for ''Paper Mario'' series item pages. They even went through every page and categorized how the tables on each differ, determining that '''12''' variations exist. 12! Dreadful. Where's the <s>lamb sauce</s> consistency?!


With that said, I think it would be best if we simply come up with a new table format altogether, and then implement it onto all these pages for both consistency and better readability. Many pages are also missing recipes, and this will make it easier for those to be completed. Another issue with how things are handled now is the fact that there is one big table per page, requiring another column to specify which game(s) the recipe is in. Not only does an extra game column make the table clunkier, but it's harder for a reader to spot the exact game they're looking for. Sure, there might be repeated recipes on a page, but I feel the benefits of having one table per game outweigh this negative (which I don't even consider to be one, necessarily). A few pages also incorporate item icons into their tables, which I think should be the case on every page because they really help with readability. The subject of the article will be in bold.  
With that said, I think it would be best if we simply come up with a new table format altogether, and then implement it onto all these pages for both consistency and better readability. Many pages are also missing recipes, and this will make it easier for those to be completed. Another issue with how things are handled now is the fact that there is one big table per page, requiring another column to specify which game(s) the recipe is in. Not only does an extra game column make the table clunkier, but it's harder for a reader to spot the exact game they're looking for. Sure, there might be repeated recipes on a page, but I feel the benefits of having one table per game outweigh this negative (which I don't even consider to be one, necessarily). A few pages also incorporate item icons into their tables, which I think should be the case on every page because they really help with readability; by splitting by game, we can use game-specific icons (and names too, now that I think about it).  


So, here's what I'm thinking the Recipes section of these pages could look like with the new table format. We'll use the [[Mushroom Steak]] as an example, considering it's a recipe found in all three games. Note that each game will be its own subsection on the actual pages, as doing so here would just mess up the formatting of the proposal.
So, here's what I'm thinking the Recipes section of these pages could look like with the new table format. We'll use the [[Mushroom Steak]] as an example, considering it's a recipe found in all three games. Note that each game will be its own subsection on the actual pages, as doing so here would just mess up the formatting of the proposal.
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Should the subject of the page be bolded?
Now, I'm wondering about a couple more things...
Should the icon from each page be used? Like, we don't just use the TTYD remake icons?
 
Do you guys prefer results on the left or right?
1. Should the subject of the article be bolded to make it stand out more? For instance, compare the table above to this:
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
!width="75%"|Recipe
!width="25%"|Result
|-
|[[File:Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Ultra Shroom Shake]]
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] '''Shroom Steak'''
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] '''Shroom Steak''' + [[File:Gorgeous Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Gorgeous Steak]]
|rowspan=2|[[File:Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Dyllis Deluxe]]
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] '''Shroom Steak''' + [[File:Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Mushroom Roast|Roast Shroom Dish]]
|}
 
2. Should the result be on the left or right?  
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
!width="75%"|Recipe
!width="25%"|Result
|-
|[[File:Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Ultra Shroom Shake]]
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak + [[File:Gorgeous Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Gorgeous Steak]]
|rowspan=2|[[File:Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Dyllis Deluxe]]
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak + [[File:Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Mushroom Roast|Roast Shroom Dish]]
|}
 
{|style="text-align:center"class=wikitable
!width="25%"|Result
!width="75%"|Recipe
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak
|[[File:Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Ultra Shroom Shake]]
|-
|rowspan=2|[[File:Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Dyllis Deluxe]]
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak + [[File:Gorgeous Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Gorgeous Steak]]
|-
|[[File:Shroom Steak SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] Shroom Steak + [[File:Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png|25x25px|link=]] [[Mushroom Roast|Roast Shroom Dish]]
|}

Revision as of 19:25, December 31, 2024

Outline a consistent table format for "Recipes" sections

Recently on the wiki's Discord server, the user PalaceSwitcher brought out how inconsistent the recipe tables are for Paper Mario series item pages. They even went through every page and categorized how the tables on each differ, determining that 12 variations exist. 12! Dreadful. Where's the lamb sauce consistency?!

With that said, I think it would be best if we simply come up with a new table format altogether, and then implement it onto all these pages for both consistency and better readability. Many pages are also missing recipes, and this will make it easier for those to be completed. Another issue with how things are handled now is the fact that there is one big table per page, requiring another column to specify which game(s) the recipe is in. Not only does an extra game column make the table clunkier, but it's harder for a reader to spot the exact game they're looking for. Sure, there might be repeated recipes on a page, but I feel the benefits of having one table per game outweigh this negative (which I don't even consider to be one, necessarily). A few pages also incorporate item icons into their tables, which I think should be the case on every page because they really help with readability; by splitting by game, we can use game-specific icons (and names too, now that I think about it).

So, here's what I'm thinking the Recipes section of these pages could look like with the new table format. We'll use the Mushroom Steak as an example, considering it's a recipe found in all three games. Note that each game will be its own subsection on the actual pages, as doing so here would just mess up the formatting of the proposal.

Paper Mario

Recipe Result
PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom PaperMario Items ShroomSteak.png Shroom Steak
PaperMario Items LifeShroom.png Life Shroom + PaperMario Items DriedShroom.png Dried Shroom
PaperMario Items LifeShroom.png Life Shroom + PaperMario Items Mushroom.png Mushroom
PaperMario Items LifeShroom.png Life Shroom + PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom
PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom + PaperMario Items Mushroom.png Mushroom
PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom + PaperMario Items SuperShroom.png Super Shroom
PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom + PaperMario Items VoltShroom.png Volt Shroom
PaperMario Items UltraShroom.png Ultra Shroom + PaperMario Items DriedShroom.png Dried Shroom
PaperMario Items LifeShroom.png Life Shroom + PaperMario Items SuperShroom.png Super Shroom
PaperMario Items ShroomSteak.png Shroom Steak + PaperMario Items PotatoSalad.png Potato Salad PaperMario Items DeluxeFeast.png Deluxe Feast

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

Recipe Result
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Mushroom Steak
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Dried Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Super Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of the Volt Mushroom from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Volt Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Dried Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Super Mushroom
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Golden Leaf Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Mushroom Steak (International)
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom (Japan)
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Life Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Turtley Leaf
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Golden Leaf
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Ultra Mushroom + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Turtley Leaf
Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Mushroom Steak + Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Healthy Salad Icon of an item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) Zess Deluxe

Super Paper Mario

Recipe Result
Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png Ultra Shroom Shake Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Gorgeous Steak SPM.png Gorgeous Steak Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png Dyllis Deluxe
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png Roast Shroom Dish

Now, I'm wondering about a couple more things...

1. Should the subject of the article be bolded to make it stand out more? For instance, compare the table above to this:

Recipe Result
Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png Ultra Shroom Shake Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Gorgeous Steak SPM.png Gorgeous Steak Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png Dyllis Deluxe
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png Roast Shroom Dish

2. Should the result be on the left or right?

Recipe Result
Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png Ultra Shroom Shake Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Gorgeous Steak SPM.png Gorgeous Steak Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png Dyllis Deluxe
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png Roast Shroom Dish
Result Recipe
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak Ultra Shroom Shake SPM.png Ultra Shroom Shake
Dyllis Deluxe SPM.png Dyllis Deluxe Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Gorgeous Steak SPM.png Gorgeous Steak
Shroom Steak SPM.png Shroom Steak + Roast Shroom Dish SPM.png Roast Shroom Dish
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