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This article feels like it's being unreasonably generous which what it considers to be an appearance of Mr. Game & Watch. Mr. G&W as a character was invented for ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' as a representative of all Game & Watch characters combined into one, and that doesn't mean that every appearance of a silhouetted Game & Watch character prior and since is retroactively Mr. G&W. The ''WarioWare'' series and ''Super Mario Odyssey'' examples are particularly questionable. How are we supposed to know they're referencing Mr. G&W, and not the identical nameless figures in ''[[Helmet (Game & Watch)|Helmet]]'' or ''[[Fire (Game & Watch)|Fire]]''? I think for an appearance to count as specifically Mr. Game & Watch it needs to explicitly state his name like ''Super Mario Maker'' and ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' or otherwise connect pretty strongly to ''Super Smash Bros''. --[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 17:51, August 1, 2024 (EDT) | This article feels like it's being unreasonably generous which what it considers to be an appearance of Mr. Game & Watch. Mr. G&W as a character was invented for ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' as a representative of all Game & Watch characters combined into one, and that doesn't mean that every appearance of a silhouetted Game & Watch character prior and since is retroactively Mr. G&W. The ''WarioWare'' series and ''Super Mario Odyssey'' examples are particularly questionable. How are we supposed to know they're referencing Mr. G&W, and not the identical nameless figures in ''[[Helmet (Game & Watch)|Helmet]]'' or ''[[Fire (Game & Watch)|Fire]]''? I think for an appearance to count as specifically Mr. Game & Watch it needs to explicitly state his name like ''Super Mario Maker'' and ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' or otherwise connect pretty strongly to ''Super Smash Bros''. --[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 17:51, August 1, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:Ignoring the fact that Mr. Game & Watch effectively serves as a composite of every Game & Watch game protagonist that isn't already a pre-existing character (up to and including a ''literal octopus''), looking at the actual images, we don't quite buy the idea that the examples listed are meant to be "the Game & Watch character specifically from Helmet or Fire" any more than they're just meant to be Mr. Game & Watch, because every game's reference to those specific games are, at best, a bit fuzzy. For the WarioWare examples, the Mr. Game & Watch-esque crowd from both ''Mega Party Games'' and ''Smooth Moves'' don't share any of the poses either of those two have, with only the ''Touched!'' emblem sharing any particular resemblance to the ''Fire'' character... only in terms of pose, anyways; except, they have a cartoon dust cloud under them, which definitely isn't in the source material. Meanwhile, the Mario Odyssey example seems to be a fusion of the ''Fire'' pose and trampoline and the hat from ''Helmet''! {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:46, August 1, 2024 (EDT) | :Ignoring the fact that Mr. Game & Watch effectively serves as a composite of every Game & Watch game protagonist that isn't already a pre-existing character (up to and including a ''literal octopus''), looking at the actual images, we don't quite buy the idea that the examples listed are meant to be "the Game & Watch character specifically from Helmet or Fire" any more than they're just meant to be Mr. Game & Watch, because every game's reference to those specific games are, at best, a bit fuzzy. For the WarioWare examples, the Mr. Game & Watch-esque crowd from both ''Mega Party Games'' and ''Smooth Moves'' don't share any of the poses either of those two have, with only the ''Touched!'' emblem sharing any particular resemblance to the ''Fire'' character... only in terms of pose, anyways; except, they have a cartoon dust cloud under them, which definitely isn't in the source material. Meanwhile, the Mario Odyssey example seems to be a fusion of the ''Fire'' pose and trampoline and the hat from ''Helmet''! {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:46, August 1, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::''Brawl'': "The guy you're looking at now, Mr. Game & Watch, was a character who appeared in these games." - '''Otacon''' <<< | ::''Brawl'': "The guy you're looking at now, Mr. Game & Watch, was a character who appeared in these games." - '''Otacon''' <<< This seems like a good enough indicator he's meant to be retroactively considered the same as the "Screen Beans"-type characters in those games. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:19, August 1, 2024 (EDT) | ||
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- He wasn't named until SSBM, correct?
04:38, 15 September 2007 (EDT)
- I don't think so, only the system was called Game & Watch. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 07:55, 15 September 2007 (EDT)
- He was called "Hideo". So his full name should be Hideo Game & Watch--LordVoldemort 07:01, 20 February 2008 (EST)
- I don't think so, only the system was called Game & Watch. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 07:55, 15 September 2007 (EDT)
Um... That's probably the worst quote ever. Anything better from the games?
- I don't think he has all that many quotes aside from that. Maybe his quote should be "BEEP BEEP" from when he ko's on Brawl. BTW, he pwns you all. BWAHA! Ok...I let THAT outta my system...Wait...FEEL MY FLAT, MONOCHROME FURY!!! Ok, I'm done.
I think it should be "BEEP BEEP" or his bell ringing.4DJONG 11:13, 14 August 2009 (EDT) MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Redirect
Would someone mind making Tropical Fish not a redirect to this page? I feel that Tropical Fish the game deserves an article.
Name
Is he Mr. Game & Watch or Mr. Game&Watch? Why Bother (talk)
- He's Mr. Game & Watch, as seen in his trophy descriptions in the Super Smash Bros. series. MarioComix 03:23, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
- So it's 3 words? Why Bother (talk)
Wario Land 4
Is it confirmed that the shop keeper look-alike, that Princess Shokora was disguised as; is in reality a Mr. Game & Watch?
- It just says that there's a huge resemblance between the two. GreenDisaster (talk) 18:20, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
Should we count his appearances in Rhythm Heaven Fever and Megamix?
He does cameo in Working Dough with his Mario's Cement Factory appearance, but I don't know if that counts. Yellow Sphere Dude 573 (talk) 18:10, 16 December 2017 (EST)
- Might work better in List of Mario references in Nintendo video games, maybe?
18:16, 16 December 2017 (EST) - We have an article for Rhythm Heaven Megamix, which I've noticed gets covered on the pages for characters who've appeared in that game like Ashley and Red, so I don't see why we shouldn't count it here.
Mario JC 23:07, 16 December 2017 (EST)
- We do have a section for cameos, though. Sometimes. Maybe. To be honest, I don't know when we should or shouldn't list a cameo. At the very least, as Mario jc said, since Megamix has its own page, it can be covered in a separate section. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 23:17, 16 December 2017 (EST)
Game & Watch Character ≠ Mr. Game & Watch
This article feels like it's being unreasonably generous which what it considers to be an appearance of Mr. Game & Watch. Mr. G&W as a character was invented for Super Smash Bros. Melee as a representative of all Game & Watch characters combined into one, and that doesn't mean that every appearance of a silhouetted Game & Watch character prior and since is retroactively Mr. G&W. The WarioWare series and Super Mario Odyssey examples are particularly questionable. How are we supposed to know they're referencing Mr. G&W, and not the identical nameless figures in Helmet or Fire? I think for an appearance to count as specifically Mr. Game & Watch it needs to explicitly state his name like Super Mario Maker and Yoshi's Woolly World or otherwise connect pretty strongly to Super Smash Bros. --PopitTart (talk) 17:51, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Ignoring the fact that Mr. Game & Watch effectively serves as a composite of every Game & Watch game protagonist that isn't already a pre-existing character (up to and including a literal octopus), looking at the actual images, we don't quite buy the idea that the examples listed are meant to be "the Game & Watch character specifically from Helmet or Fire" any more than they're just meant to be Mr. Game & Watch, because every game's reference to those specific games are, at best, a bit fuzzy. For the WarioWare examples, the Mr. Game & Watch-esque crowd from both Mega Party Games and Smooth Moves don't share any of the poses either of those two have, with only the Touched! emblem sharing any particular resemblance to the Fire character... only in terms of pose, anyways; except, they have a cartoon dust cloud under them, which definitely isn't in the source material. Meanwhile, the Mario Odyssey example seems to be a fusion of the Fire pose and trampoline and the hat from Helmet! ~Camwoodstock (talk) 20:46, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
- Brawl: "The guy you're looking at now, Mr. Game & Watch, was a character who appeared in these games." - Otacon <<< This seems like a good enough indicator he's meant to be retroactively considered the same as the "Screen Beans"-type characters in those games. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:19, August 1, 2024 (EDT)
