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#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per booprosal.
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per booprosal.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per proposer.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Per proposer.
#{{User|Dark-Boy-1up}} Per all.


=== Merge ''WLII'' ghost enemy with ''Luigi's Mansion'' series ghosts, leave ''DK'' series ghost ===
=== Merge ''WLII'' ghost enemy with ''Luigi's Mansion'' series ghosts, leave ''DK'' series ghost ===
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the DK one's intended JP name is "Powan," with DKJC calling them "ghosts" or "yurei" in a "this island's full of ghosts" bit of dialogue. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:33, January 15, 2024 (EST)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the DK one's intended JP name is "Powan," with DKJC calling them "ghosts" or "yurei" in a "this island's full of ghosts" bit of dialogue. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:33, January 15, 2024 (EST)
:I figured that they were originally called "Powan" but renamed to just "Ghosts", since "ghost" was in katakana so I assumed it was its proper name. Looking into it, though, katakana seems to be moreso used as italics or something similar to help make the text easier to parse? Not entirely sure now. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 11:18, January 15, 2024 (EST)
:I figured that they were originally called "Powan" but renamed to just "Ghosts", since "ghost" was in katakana so I assumed it was its proper name. Looking into it, though, katakana seems to be moreso used as italics or something similar to help make the text easier to parse? Not entirely sure now. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 11:18, January 15, 2024 (EST)
@DrippingYellow I think its funny that you referred to the [[frog |frog page]] because there is already a [[Talk:Crow#Split_Luigi.27s_Mansion_series_crows_.28and_frogs.29|debate about it]] happening right now. I voted that the frogs all stay on one page. I think that just like in the frog debate, simplicity matters. So that's why I am voting that these ghost pages get merged. -- {{User:Dark-Boy-1up/sig}} 11:56, January 15, 2024 (EST)

Revision as of 11:56, January 15, 2024

Merge Ghost (Wario Land II enemy), Ghost (DK series), Ghost (Luigi's Mansion series) into a single "Ghost" article

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Current time: Tuesday, December 24, 2024, 23:12 GMT

This is quite possibly the biggest disambiguation on the entire wiki. Nintendo got really lazy when it came to their ghost characters, huh? This isn't a case of the English localizers slacking off, either: I've counted a total of four creatures that are all named either named yūrei (ユーレイ, the Japanese equivalent of our ghosts) or obake (オバケ, sometimes used as a synonym for yurei), and there's also the unnamed ghost from Wario Land 4 who is referred to as a yūrei.

Now, some of these have scraped by for having some semblance of creative design, like WL4's ghost being a pirate and stuff, and the Yoshi's Story ghost being... unique, let's put it that way. However, the Wario Land II enemy ghost and the DK series' ghost are pretty clearly intended to just be generic ghosts, based on the combination of confirmed generic names and (in my opinion) unremarkable appearance, similar to how Zombies are little more than just that - zombies.

With that laid out, my intent with this proposal is to try to merge these with the Luigi's Mansion series ghost page, since those games use a similar stock concept for ghosts. It just so happens that there are a lot of types of ghosts in that franchise. The end result would be a ghost page, similar to what we have already for frogs, and the disambiguation here would go to Ghost (disambiguation)

Proposer: DrippingYellow (talk)
Deadline: January 29, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Merge all

  1. DrippingYellow (talk) Per booprosal.
  2. Super Mario RPG (talk) Per proposer.
  3. Dark-Boy-1up (talk) Per all.

Merge WLII ghost enemy with Luigi's Mansion series ghosts, leave DK series ghost

Merge DK series ghost with Luigi's Mansion series ghosts, leave WLII ghost enemy

Merge Wario Land II & DK series' enemy ghosts, leave Luigi's Mansion series ghosts

Do nothing

  1. Okapii (talk) idk I feel like the Luigi's Mansion ghosts are clearly their own thing, and clogging their page with generic ghosts from outside that series would bring down the page's overall quality. I very much doubt either the Luigi's Mansion or the DK King of Swing devs were designing their ghosts and went "you know, like the ones from Wario Land"

Comments

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the DK one's intended JP name is "Powan," with DKJC calling them "ghosts" or "yurei" in a "this island's full of ghosts" bit of dialogue. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:33, January 15, 2024 (EST)

I figured that they were originally called "Powan" but renamed to just "Ghosts", since "ghost" was in katakana so I assumed it was its proper name. Looking into it, though, katakana seems to be moreso used as italics or something similar to help make the text easier to parse? Not entirely sure now. DrippingYellow (talk) 11:18, January 15, 2024 (EST)

@DrippingYellow I think its funny that you referred to the frog page because there is already a debate about it happening right now. I voted that the frogs all stay on one page. I think that just like in the frog debate, simplicity matters. So that's why I am voting that these ghost pages get merged. -- 1UP MushroomDark-Boy-1upArtwork of a 1-Up Mushroom, from Super Mario 3D World. 11:56, January 15, 2024 (EST)