Talk:VS. Super Mario Bros.

Capitalization doesn't matter while using the search box, so let's delete the redirect. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Please use {{Delete}} instead of creating more things to delete.--Knife (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2010 (EST)

The redirect includes the first edits for the game. As the page history would be gone, it can't be deleted, unless the page histories of both pages can be merged (I don't know how). --Grandy02 18:04, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

This game's exact release date

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I've been wondering when this game was really released. While most sources claim it's somewhere in 1986, this one guy says its PCB (Printed Circuit Board) is from 1985. Meanwhile, Giant Bomb claims it was released in June 14, 1986. Take note that this is only eleven days after the release of The Lost Levels. This could mean that we'd have no real way to say if this game takes levels and other stuff from The Lost Levels or vice versa, because this implies the two games were in development at the same time. SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 11:35, 21 December 2015 (EST)

He doesn't give the exact timeframe, but in an interview, Miyamoto says Lost Levels was made due to the team's experiene in making harder levels for Vs. Super Mario Bros. so it definitely came before. --Glowsquid (talk) 14:17, 21 December 2015 (EST)

While I'm unsure of a 1985 date, it was certainly available before June 14, 1986. This magazine from May 1986 mentions how Japanese arcade owners were illegally importing VS. Super Mario Bros. ROM kits as it was never released in Japan. Wikipedia lists an April 1986 release date but doesn't give a source, however it looks realistic given all that we know so far.--Platform (talk) 01:49, January 1, 2021 (EST)

I found a source that lists two release dates for some reason. Here, among Nintendo of America releases, it lists 86/05 as the date, but here, among Nintendo of Japan releases, it lists 86/02 as the date (note it states the VS. Super Mario Bros. was released overseas in parenthesis). I'm not sure what happened there. Maybe somehow the official release got mixed up with around the time bootlegs started showing up, or a Japanese release was planned? At any rate, if there are no better sources, which of the two would be the likelier date? LinkTheLefty (talk) 03:00, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

As I've noted elsewhere, that book is unreliable. Wikipedia has links to several contemporaneous sources. A possible prototype of VS. SMB was shown in London in January '86. It may have been pulled for reworking due to difficulty. I would argue that the Chicago expo in March is the true debut as it is the final version. Arcade trade shows are unlike ones for console or PC games which preview or announce a new game many months in advance. Sales take place directly to distributors and operators at arcade shows after prospective buyers test them out in the floor. Delivery time varies and it is up to the operators discretion on when to install new games at their venues.--Platform (talk) 06:17, October 16, 2022 (EDT)

I'm not sure if this is on to something, but I found this nugget. The wording's a little strange, but it seems to indicate VS. Super Mario Bros. debuted after the Famicom release of Super Mario Bros., but before the NES release. That doesn't necessarily pin things down too well given it puts the NA release of Super Mario Bros. back up in the air, given the back flyer's 1986 date, but a general release timeline of Famicom SMB -> VS. SMB -> NES SMB -> PlayChoice SMB would make some sense. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:42, October 26, 2023 (EDT)