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| ==Poll Committee Discussion==
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| Written by: {{User|Fun With Despair}}
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| Welcome back to another Poll Committee Discussion, I’m Fun With Despair, Poll Commitee Chairperson, bringing you another… Poll Committee Discussion.
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| That was pretty obvious, wasn’t it?
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| Well, I have to write something here. Y’know, fill the dead air and such. Gotta make the intro post. It’s important. Crucial to the brand. All glory to the brand. May the glorious ‘Shroom assimilate us all.
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| ===Archives===
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| ====The Mario & Luigi series has been dormant since AlphaDream's bankruptcy in 2019. How would you like the series to continue? - ({{User|Waluigi Time}}, February 14th, 2023)====
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| {{Archived Poll
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| |pollname=The Mario & Luigi series has been dormant since AlphaDream's bankruptcy in 2019. How would you like the series to continue?
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| |choice1=I would like Nintendo or another studio to develop a new Mario & Luigi game. 77.83% (2602 votes)
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| |result1=77.83
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| |choice2=I would like Nintendo to create a new RPG series to replace Mario & Luigi. 6.7% (224 votes)
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| |result2=6.7
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| |choice3=I have no opinion. 6.01% (189 votes)
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| |result3=6.01
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| |choice4=>I would like to see remakes/remasters of the existing games, but I do not think Nintendo should make a new one. 5.23% (175 votes)
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| |result4=5.23
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| |choice5=I would like to see the original games re-released on other hardware, but I do not think Nintendo should remaster them or make a new one. 3.02% (101 votes)
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| |result5=3.02
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| |choice6=I do not like Mario & Luigi and don't want to see it continue in any form. 1.2% (40 votes)
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| |result6=1.2
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| |totalvote=3,343
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| }}
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| ====On which of these Nintendo systems have you played Mario games? - ({{User|Hooded Pitohui}}, February 28th, 2023)====
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| {{Archived Poll
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| |pollname=On which of these Nintendo systems have you played Mario games?
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| |choice1=Switch 13.8% (3221 votes)
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| |result1=13.8
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| |choice2=Wii 12.59% (2938 votes)
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| |result2=12.59
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| |choice3=Nintendo 3DS 11.13% (2597 votes)
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| |result3=11.13
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| |choice4=Nintendo DS 10.39% (2424 votes)
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| |result4=10.39
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| |choice5=Wii U 9.94% (2321 votes)
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| |result5=9.94
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| |choice6=Gamecube 7.69% (1795 votes)
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| |result6=7.69
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| |choice7=Nintendo 64 7.6% (1775 votes)
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| |result7=7.6
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| |choice8=Game Boy Advance 7.57% (1768 votes)
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| |result8=7.57
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| |choice9=SNES 7.05% (1645 votes)
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| |result9=7.05
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| |choice10=NES/Famicom 6.29% (1467 votes)
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| |result10=6.29
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| |choice11=Game Boy/Game Boy Color 5.96% (1390 votes)
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| |result11=5.96
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| |totalvote=23,341
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| ===Analysis===
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| ====The Mario & Luigi series has been dormant since AlphaDream's bankruptcy in 2019. How would you like the series to continue?====
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| [[File:MLBISBJJDarkFawfulBomb.png|thumb|Still less of a bomb than the M&L remakes.]]
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| It’s no secret that the future of the Mario RPG spinoffs is in a bit of a weird place right now. For years, the [[Mario & Luigi]] series was the last holdout in the genre - ever since the [[Paper Mario]] series went off to do its own thing after the release of Sticker Star on the 3DS anyway, and it was a series with its fair share of… interesting releases.
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| Let’s take a bit of a history lesson, shall we?
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| If you’d rather not, I’m sure you can scroll down a bit and find the raw analysis - though you’ll also find that this poll is so completely stacked that it’s rather hard to write much about on its own without context. The people know what they want, apparently.
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| In 2023, developer [[AlphaDream]] released [[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]], a game that was so popular that it’s been rereleased twice and entirely remade once. It’s defined the world and characters for many a fan, and produced the character that has probably went on to be the most popular non-mainline character in the series; the ever-memorable [[Fawful]]. It was a big success both critically and commercially, leading to several sequels on the Nintendo DS and the Nintendo 3DS.
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| While [[Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time]] and [[Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story]] on the DS are both remembered fairly well today (albeit the latter more than the former, which is mostly notable for the rather strange, dark tone of the story and certainly not the world or gameplay), [[Mario & Luigi: Dream Team]] and [[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]] on the 3DS would go on to have a much less pleasant reputation. With the former suffering criticisms of tedious length and overwhelming tutorials, and the latter facing accusations of soullessness and unoriginality due to the lack of original characters from the Paper Mario series, things began to change for AlphaDream’s reputation.
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| Then, for whatever reason, instead of continuing the series, they decided to remake and release both Superstar Saga and Bowser’s Inside Story for the 3DS. The latter being a game that you could already buy and play on the 3DS as it was. Nobody bought them, and they promptly went bankrupt. Whether you believe that they remade those games out of the goodness of their hearts or as a cheap cash grab, there’s no denying that this leaves both the series and the future of the Mario RPGs in a bit of a weird place. With the development studio no longer existing and Paper Mario no longer embracing its RPG roots, the very concept of a Mario RPG may very well be a dead dream.
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| So, that brings us to today, where {{User|Waluigi Time}}’s asking everyone what they think Nintendo should do next when it comes to this iconic series. Do they continue it with a new team? Do they replace it with something new? Well, anyone who read the results up there should know that I’m asking a futile question, because a whopping 77.83% of our 3,343 voters (wow, that’s a lot! You people sure are passionate) think that yes, Nintendo (or another development team they hire) should continue the Mario & Luigi series. The Mario & Luigi series is important to a lot of people, and it boasts so many unique things that even at its worst, there’s something to be found in every one of these games. There’s people who outright wouldn’t even like this franchise if not for these games, whether they be simple RPG fans, or active contributors to the Tumblr Sexymanification of Fawful, and even in spite of the series’ relative decline, it’s obvious that a huge amount of fans - Mario & Luigi specific or otherwise, who think these spinoffs have something worth keeping.
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| Now, that’s still not the only viewpoint obviously. 6.7% of our voters think that Nintendo should start a new RPG franchise to fill the void, and this one is my personal pick. While Mario & Luigi is honestly almost a generation-defining series, after witnessing AlphaDream’s (and the series’) death spiral, I feel like I’m more interested in something new. Nintendo needs something fresh for the Mario franchise at this point, and a brand-new RPG could be just the thing. Mario & Luigi, sadly, is mired in a history of relative mediocrity at this point for a variety of reasons, and I feel like a fresh start could really help a Mario RPG take off in the same way that first game did.
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| On the other side of the coin, 5.23% think that the series should remake its existing titles but not make anything new, while 3.02% think that the series going forward should be limited to just rereleases. Well, I’ve got some good news for that 3.02%, because they’re already doing that with Nintendo Switch Online, at least with Superstar Saga. I think the 5.23% that voted for remakes is somewhat more interesting though, because the previous remakes didn’t do particularly well by any means. Has the market simply changed now that the 3DS is out and the Switch dominates both the handheld and console categories? Would these hypothetical remakes ideally be HD 3D games? Something akin to the 3DS remakes? Would you buy the remakes if they came out now? I’m genuinely curious about this, so feel free to drop by the forums and let me know in either the Poll Discussion thread or the ‘Shroom thread.
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| …And as for you, the 1.2%, the 40 people who voted for the option claiming that you did not want the series to continue, well, joke’s on us because you’re probably the only ones among us to be blessed with the gift of prophecy. There’s been no sign of Nintendo wanting to continue the franchise or even keep a leg in the RPG genre at all since the collapse of the developers, and the frequency of first-party releases has slowed to a crawl. If anything’s in the works, it’s going to be a long time coming.
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| In any case, while we may no longer have AlphaDream, 77.83% of you still have… some kind of dream, a wish to see a beloved series continue, despite all odds.
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| For now, all that’s left to do is to wait and see.
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| ====On which of these Nintendo systems have you played Mario games?====
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| [[File:192PCD-1.png|thumb|Yes, this is the same image I used for the poll. You are very clever for noticing. Good job.]]
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| Hoo boy, a nice, simple, easy one to talk about after that last one. Guest submitter (and previous Chairman) {{User|Hooded Pitohui}} brings us a poll that I personally think is best to refer to as somewhat of a userbase age range litmus test. On which Nintendo systems have you played Mario games… Quite the question, isn’t it? Mario as a franchise has existed for over 40 years now, spanning a variety of consoles over that length of time.
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| So, what’ve you played on?
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| Well, before we get into the results, I have to say that because this one’s another big multiple-choice poll, the actual percentages and numbers probably aren’t going to mean terribly much to people. Someone who voted that they played on the Switch may well have voted every other category, so I’m going to discuss this one using some broader strokes across the board. There’s also the fact that some people probably have emulated and voted based on that, so really it’s a bit of a mixed bag.
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| The first thing to glance at here, is the interesting fact that the Wii U is a solid 526 votes above the Gamecube despite both of them having sold about as well as a carton of expired milk at a clothing store. There’s an obvious reason as to why I labeled this a litmus test for the age of our voters though, because I’m pretty sure this is exactly why the Wii U and Gamecube have such a gap between them. If I had to guess, a lot of the random voters we get are probably aged 14-16 and therefore were at the prime age for a Wii U to be the up-and-coming Nintendo console when they were at the right age for it, just like a lot of our older users were around the time of the Gamecube’s release.
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| As for the Wii being above the Wii U, well, everyone alive on this planet owned a Wii regardless of age and also you could play Gamecube games on it, so I’m honestly surprised it’s not higher than the Switch.
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| Once you start going below the Gamecube on the rankings here, you do start to see much smaller decreases in percentages and voter counts though, which, as one of the people who did grow up and have their parents get them a Gamecube, does check out. I had a Nintendo 64 before that, and a Game Boy Color (which, you have to remember, existed as their primary handheld until 2001 brought the GBA) - if you had one of these systems, chances are you had all of them. This especially applies once you take into consideration the heavy interconnectivity advertised through games like Pokemon Stadium or the Gamecube “equivalents”. That whole era felt like everyone had everything, it was kind of wild.
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| And, of course, while the Game Boy sold like hotcakes for the above reasons and simply because of the sheer novelty at the time, it doesn’t surprise me that it ranked last. The Game Boy did not have very many Mario games at all, and almost all of them besides Super Mario Bros. Deluxe on the Game Boy Color were at least in my own professional opinion, utter dog water.
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| ===Conclusion===
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| Well, that was fun. Always enjoy doing these, personally. I have to enjoy them. Gotta fill the void. Gotta keep the brand consistent. Gotta keep posting and helping the ‘Shroom to grow. There’s nothing else. We are all forsaken.
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