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:::::::::::::Dark Horse was incompetent at this. We can't cite the encyclopedia, but is it still the english name because it's in an officially licensed encyclopedia? Also, does it have a passing mention on the Prima, or isn't mentioned at all? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:41, 27 January 2019 (EST) | :::::::::::::Dark Horse was incompetent at this. We can't cite the encyclopedia, but is it still the english name because it's in an officially licensed encyclopedia? Also, does it have a passing mention on the Prima, or isn't mentioned at all? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:41, 27 January 2019 (EST) | ||
::::::::::::::No, that would defeat the purpose of the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|proposal]]; even the partial citation option was only meant for apparent new names (e.g. the ''Super Mario 64'' section's "Micro Koopa" and "Micro Piranha"). "Lumacomète" was part of the co-translator's self-admitted tendency to take from wiki souces ('''despite''' there being a nice, big disclaimer for our foreign and conjectural titles), and thus citing it would be citing ourselves. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:05, 28 January 2019 (EST) | ::::::::::::::No, that would defeat the purpose of the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|proposal]]; even the partial citation option was only meant for apparent new names (e.g. the ''Super Mario 64'' section's "Micro Koopa" and "Micro Piranha"). "Lumacomète" was part of the co-translator's self-admitted tendency to take from wiki souces ('''despite''' there being a nice, big disclaimer for our foreign and conjectural titles), and thus citing it would be citing ourselves. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:05, 28 January 2019 (EST) | ||
:::::::::::::::I wasn't asking to cite it. Also, i don't think it's mentioned on the [[Prima]]. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:12, 28 January 2019 (EST) |
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Luma Templet
Should we add a templet for Lumas, like we do with Toads or Koopas, listing the main Lumas? Thanks 1upYoshi (talk) 21:10, 13 January 2013 (EST)
- Nah there aren't enough lumas to justify a template. Marshal Dan Troop (talk)
Official French name
In french, its name is "Lumacomète". It comes from Luma (= Luma) and comète (= comet). So we should rename this page, right ? Should we rename it "Lumacomet" or "Lumacomète" ?
Banon (talk · edits) 05:39, 10 November 2012 (EST)
- Well our naming policy says that an official name from a non-english region is acceptable, so go for it. The page should be moved the title as seen in the source (that is, with the grave accent on the "e"). But just replace the {{Conjecture}} template with {{another language}}, so as to show that the name comes from a non-english source.
- Tres bien.
Glitch
I was being a guest commentator on a chap's LP, when an odd glitch involving Lumacomète happened. Take a look for yourself, it's right at the start of the video; [1]
I expect the most likely thing to do in this circumstance is to make either a Trivia or a Glitch header, and link to the LP episode there, but I'll see what you guys suggest. Toast ltimatum 15:01, 4 December 2012 (EST)
- Lol, the Luma is upside down! And yep, it's worth mentioning in the article. Put it under a Trivia section.
Name
Shouldn't we be using an English translation of the name, since the name itself has a definite English translation of a name? Most languages use a name that translates to "Comet Luma", including Lumacomète. (T|C) 11:32, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
- When using foreign names, we do not translate them. See: the Donkey Kong Jungle Beat enemies. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 11:34, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
- Are enemies from the Game Boy Donkey Kong an exception to the rule? -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE
- If the original Japanese name is just an English word, we're free to write them in English. A good example of this is Sūpā Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Pāti, whose article is titled Super Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Party. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:39, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
- Shouldn't it be called "Kometto Chico," since the original Japanese name is preferable to the French translation? Raymond1922A (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
- I think the rationale for that is supposedly due to the Template:Media link being the first international name, but that's not true. It might be the case for Super Mario Galaxy 2 since the North American release predates the Japanese release, but it's vice versa for the first Super Mario Galaxy. In-game, Butler/Polari does indeed refer to it as Kometto Chico (the corresponding English line is "If you want to learn more about these curious comets, ask the Luma who knows about such things."), which we would render as Comet Tico. Or we could wait until the English translation of Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia comes out, since it's listed among the other NPCs on page 126. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
- I think it would actually be "Comet Chico". Raymond1922A (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
- Makes sense, since that's the route Dark Horse went with Zelda: Arts and Artifacts (which was kinda disappointing...), but it still remains to be seen what they'll do here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
- So can we move it to "Comet Chico"? Raymond1922A (talk) 17:07, 18 May 2018 (EDT)
- We should really wait for SMBE to be released so there's not a bunch of superfluous link-changing, though the amount of pages that link here through ways other than the SMG template is probably rather small. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:08, 18 May 2018 (EDT)
- "Tico" is the official romanization for Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2, but "Chiko" is how it's spelled in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U. Either way, not Chico. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:15, 18 May 2018 (EDT)
- OK, so it ended up being pointless, as Dark Horse are stinky. Anyways, Tico or Chiko? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:23, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- We'll see how things run their course, but if we wanted to reference the object data in lieu of Dark Horse, it's "TicoComet". LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- So given how Jungle Beat names were used, that would work out as "Tico Comet" for us if we did the filename approach? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:09, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- It would be swapped to "Comet Tico" since most of the time filenames only consist of "base" first and descriptor second so that related objects are grouped together (also it would be more consistent with the order of the Japanese name). LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:51, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- Dark Horse was incompetent at this. We can't cite the encyclopedia, but is it still the english name because it's in an officially licensed encyclopedia? Also, does it have a passing mention on the Prima, or isn't mentioned at all? -- FanOfYoshi 13:41, 27 January 2019 (EST)
- No, that would defeat the purpose of the proposal; even the partial citation option was only meant for apparent new names (e.g. the Super Mario 64 section's "Micro Koopa" and "Micro Piranha"). "Lumacomète" was part of the co-translator's self-admitted tendency to take from wiki souces (despite there being a nice, big disclaimer for our foreign and conjectural titles), and thus citing it would be citing ourselves. LinkTheLefty (talk) 01:05, 28 January 2019 (EST)
- Dark Horse was incompetent at this. We can't cite the encyclopedia, but is it still the english name because it's in an officially licensed encyclopedia? Also, does it have a passing mention on the Prima, or isn't mentioned at all? -- FanOfYoshi 13:41, 27 January 2019 (EST)
- It would be swapped to "Comet Tico" since most of the time filenames only consist of "base" first and descriptor second so that related objects are grouped together (also it would be more consistent with the order of the Japanese name). LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:51, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- So given how Jungle Beat names were used, that would work out as "Tico Comet" for us if we did the filename approach? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:09, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- We'll see how things run their course, but if we wanted to reference the object data in lieu of Dark Horse, it's "TicoComet". LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:40, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- OK, so it ended up being pointless, as Dark Horse are stinky. Anyways, Tico or Chiko? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:23, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
- So can we move it to "Comet Chico"? Raymond1922A (talk) 17:07, 18 May 2018 (EDT)
- Makes sense, since that's the route Dark Horse went with Zelda: Arts and Artifacts (which was kinda disappointing...), but it still remains to be seen what they'll do here. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
- I think it would actually be "Comet Chico". Raymond1922A (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2018 (EDT)
- I think the rationale for that is supposedly due to the Template:Media link being the first international name, but that's not true. It might be the case for Super Mario Galaxy 2 since the North American release predates the Japanese release, but it's vice versa for the first Super Mario Galaxy. In-game, Butler/Polari does indeed refer to it as Kometto Chico (the corresponding English line is "If you want to learn more about these curious comets, ask the Luma who knows about such things."), which we would render as Comet Tico. Or we could wait until the English translation of Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia comes out, since it's listed among the other NPCs on page 126. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
- Shouldn't it be called "Kometto Chico," since the original Japanese name is preferable to the French translation? Raymond1922A (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
- If the original Japanese name is just an English word, we're free to write them in English. A good example of this is Sūpā Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Pāti, whose article is titled Super Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Party. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:39, 16 August 2017 (EDT)