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== Enemies in Bubbles == | == Enemies in Bubbles == | ||
I always found it interesting that the "G(al)oomba/Bob-omb/Cheep Cheep in a Bubble"-type enemies seemingly never had separate articles at any point. Maybe it's just because nobody got around to it, but I seem to remember giving them articles to be dissuaded. With that in mind, why? For starters, the enemy variants do have official names (at least in Mario Mania): the Galoomba is "Goomba in a Bubble", the Cheep Cheep is "Fish in Bubble" or "Bubble Fish", and the Bob-omb is "Bubble Bob-omb". Names alone aren't enough to warrant splitting them, sure, but because of the Bubbles, their behavior is different; with the bubble, they act differently than they would without it. After it pops, they might "return" to normal enemies, but the wiki's no stranger to giving separate articles to enemies with characteristics that don't last forever, such as, say, the [[Winged Goomba|various]] [[Koopa Paratroopa|winged]] [[Parabuzzy|enemies]], the [[Para-Goomba (Super Mario World)|parachuted]] [[Parabomb|enemies]], and even [[Balloon Goomba|Goombas attached to balloons]]. It really seems to me that the bubbled enemies, by all means, should have separate articles. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} | I always found it interesting that the "G(al)oomba/Bob-omb/Cheep Cheep in a Bubble"-type enemies seemingly never had separate articles at any point. Maybe it's just because nobody got around to it, but I seem to remember giving them articles to be dissuaded. With that in mind, why? For starters, the enemy variants do have official names (at least in Mario Mania): the Galoomba is "Goomba in a Bubble", the Cheep Cheep is "Fish in Bubble" or "Bubble Fish", and the Bob-omb is "Bubble Bob-omb". Names alone aren't enough to warrant splitting them, sure, but because of the Bubbles, their behavior is different; with the bubble, they act differently than they would without it. After it pops, they might "return" to normal enemies, but the wiki's no stranger to giving separate articles to enemies with characteristics that don't last forever, such as, say, the [[Winged Goomba|various]] [[Koopa Paratroopa|winged]] [[Parabuzzy|enemies]], the [[Para-Goomba (Super Mario World)|parachuted]] [[Parabomb|enemies]], and even [[Balloon Goomba|Goombas attached to balloons]]. It really seems to me that the bubbled enemies, by all means, should have separate articles. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} | ||
:Sure, why not. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT) | :Sure, why not. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT) |
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Why isn't the bubble from Super Mario Land 2 included here? That was a pretty significant bubble. Buddy Christ (talk)
Enemies in Bubbles
I always found it interesting that the "G(al)oomba/Bob-omb/Cheep Cheep in a Bubble"-type enemies seemingly never had separate articles at any point. Maybe it's just because nobody got around to it, but I seem to remember giving them articles to be dissuaded. With that in mind, why? For starters, the enemy variants do have official names (at least in Mario Mania): the Galoomba is "Goomba in a Bubble", the Cheep Cheep is "Fish in Bubble" or "Bubble Fish", and the Bob-omb is "Bubble Bob-omb". Names alone aren't enough to warrant splitting them, sure, but because of the Bubbles, their behavior is different; with the bubble, they act differently than they would without it. After it pops, they might "return" to normal enemies, but the wiki's no stranger to giving separate articles to enemies with characteristics that don't last forever, such as, say, the various winged enemies, the parachuted enemies, and even Goombas attached to balloons. It really seems to me that the bubbled enemies, by all means, should have separate articles. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Sure, why not. - Walkazo 15:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
- Their behavior may be different since they're helplessly trapped, but all floating objects in bubbles are basically identical until popped out. Wouldn't this be not unlike splitting ? Block based on content type? LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:44, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
- You're thinking about it a bit backwards; I'm thinking of the bubbles less as item blocks and more as wings and parachutes. They're not containers for the enemies so much as they are attachments to them. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- And you're looking at it wrong, the bubble in itself is the primary entity. What it contains is completely irrelevant until it's popped-bubbles that carries goombas don't behave any different from bubbles that have a koopa in them, while a goomba with wings has different properties from a koopa with wings, and its parent species. --Glowsquid (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
- ? Blocks don't have different names based on their content - except Coin Blocks, I guess, which we do split, but they behave differently too overall, so it's not a perfect comparison either. Para-Goomba (Super Mario World) and Parabombs act the same too iirc, and the regular Galoombas and Bob-Ombs they become once they land are helpless passengers as long as they're airborne, same as the bubbled enemies. But I actually don't care overly much either way; both sides have valid points, which is probably why nothing's been done about them yet. - Walkazo 19:37, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
- And you're looking at it wrong, the bubble in itself is the primary entity. What it contains is completely irrelevant until it's popped-bubbles that carries goombas don't behave any different from bubbles that have a koopa in them, while a goomba with wings has different properties from a koopa with wings, and its parent species. --Glowsquid (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
- You're thinking about it a bit backwards; I'm thinking of the bubbles less as item blocks and more as wings and parachutes. They're not containers for the enemies so much as they are attachments to them. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
- Their behavior may be different since they're helplessly trapped, but all floating objects in bubbles are basically identical until popped out. Wouldn't this be not unlike splitting ? Block based on content type? LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:44, 7 July 2015 (EDT)