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===Merge Minor NPCs with their location===
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If I'm right on the definition, you want Culex, Jinx and Monstermana merged with Monstro Town, Toadofsky merged with Tadpole Pond and The Sunglasses Salesman and Doot-Doot Sisters merged with Isle Delfino? They have nothing to do with the main plot. {{User|Magikrazy51}}
If I'm right on the definition, you want Culex, Jinx and Monstermana merged with Monstro Town, Toadofsky merged with Tadpole Pond and The Sunglasses Salesman and Doot-Doot Sisters merged with Isle Delfino? They have nothing to do with the main plot. {{User|Magikrazy51}}
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===Input new rules for name changing===
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I used up my 2 chances to change my name, but I find my current name to be too long. I say to increase the number of times we can change our names to three, and place a limit on how many letters, numbers, spaces, etc. to 20. It saves users from making their second (and last) name change, then realizing that the username is too long.
{{scrollbox|'''Proposer''': {{User|DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr.}}<br>
'''Voting start''': March 29, 2011 at 21:30 GMT <br>
'''Deadline''': April 6, 2011 at 21:30 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr.}} Isn't it annoying to have to type my long name EVERY SINGLE TIME? Also, the limit prevents people from making really long usernames like "I enjoy Nintendo games so much I like (insert Nintendo series here)! My favorite character is (insert character here)."
====Oppose====
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per my comments.
#{{User|DKPetey99}} Per FF65 comments.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per all.
#{{User|Iggykoopa}} i don't think you should change the rules just cause you messed up
#{{User|Bop1996}} Per FF65.
#{{User|Luigi is OSAM}} Per all. Bending the rules so you can change your name? Maybe next time you make an username on something, make it shorter!
#{{User|Phoenix}} Per my comment.
#{{User|Zero777}} How does this benefits the wiki? This only helps you. Look, if you really think your name is too long then I suggest to truly show a mod that your name is WAY TOO LONG and must change for one last time to a shorter name. Also, I prefer that it should be illegal to change usernames the wiki, forum is one thing but in the wiki it gets too confusing on who is who.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all, including Xzelion in the comments.
#{{User|Xzelion}} - Per my comments
#{{User|Ultrahammer5365}} Your name IS too long, but like Phoenix said, you can't change the rules just because they inconvenience you.
#{{User|Nicke8}} Per Zero777.
#{{User|Superfiremario}} Per Fawfulfury65's comments and Zero777.
#{{User|Paper Yoshi}} - Per all.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} You picked it, your problem. Per all.
#{{User|Magikrazy51}} This looks like a job for Hindsight Man! You should have picked a smaller name. Per those above and below me (if any are below me).
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per Iggykoopa, Luigi is OSAM, Zero777 and Ultrahammer5365.
#{{User|Volatile Dweevil}} Per all.
#{{User|Turboo}} - per all
====Comments====
So you're basically making this proposal to help yourself change your username? Users shouldn't have to change their username at all, and changing it just causes confusion. Users should know that they should avoid changing their username to something long and that they only have two times to change it. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
:I shortened the title because the old title ''really'' expanded the TOC at the top of the page, feel free to change it to another message; just as long as the new message is not a full sentence.
:Also, my suggestion to you would be to go to your preferences, replace the signature with [[User:<yourname>|<yourname>]] [[User talk:<yourname>|(Talk)]] - then just click the signature button when trying to sign a comment. {{User|Marioguy1}}
I find two changes to be too short. Three should be enough.
{{User|DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr.}}
:I don't think so. I'm sorry, but you can't just change the rules simply because they inconvenience you. No offense, but you wouldn't be stuck in this situation if you had read the rules in the first place. {{User|Phoenix}} 23:02, 29 March 2011 (EDT)
Ya know if you just got rid of your first account and made a new account that would settle that matter easily instead of changing the rules {{User|Iggykoopa}}
:Um, no, that's called sockpuppeting and is ''completely'' against the rules: the only time we let people replace their account is if they forget their original password. - {{User|Walkazo}}
fair enough {{User|Iggykoopa}}
:Name changes are quite the big deal and users should think it through before going ahead with it, also the limit is foolish, you should know when there's too many characters in your name yourself. Should there be a law that you can't chop off your own hand? No, cause it should be common sense. Two is just fine, heck one would be perfectly fine. {{user|Xzelion}}
My username is long and has the symbol é. That means I can't go here on my laptop and it takes me a little longer to type my name at certain times. {{User|Pokémon Trainer Mario}}
Just a thought, but maybe you could type your username in a blank word document, save it, and just copy and paste it into the login page each time you go to log in. That would be easier. {{User|Tails777}}
:You know, if you get that é symbol once, most browsers (at least ones that I use, such as Firefox and Chrome) will give you the option to remember the username and password. {{User|Bop1996}}
When you make your name, shoundn't you choose a shorter one? And at Pokémon Trainer Mario, You can click "Remember me on this computer" BTW I'm laptopin, and I Wrote your name! {{User|Luigi is OSAM}}
I'd also like to mention that if we use the 20 character limit mentioned in the proposal, a lot of users will need their usernames to be changed. This just gives bureaucrats a lot of worthless work to do, and it would cause a lot of problems. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
You should of been wiser for your username.  {{User|Superfiremario}}
It would be worth considering to have a character limit for new users. Old users may keep theirs, and this could prevent problems like this or even some name changes in the first place. But that's only if it is possible. {{User|Cacciaguida}}
:If the number of characters is ever a problem, we will fix it. {{User|Marioguy1}}
Pokémon Trainer Mario, a really easy way to get that "é" in Pokémon is to google "pokemon". The first entry has the word Pokémon with an "é". Just copy and paste it. [[User:Volatile Dweevil|Volatile Dweevil]]}}

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Allow autoconfirmed users edit other users' userpages

DON'T ALLOW 1-34

Recently I have seen red links, redirect links, etc. on other peoples userpages along with deleted images and I was wondering if us autoconfirmed users can edit their userpages for errors, etc. It really doesn't make sense that only sysops get to edit this so I set up this proposal. Also, on Wikia we get to edit others' userpages along with most other wikis.

Proposer: Kaptain K. Rool (talk)
Voting start: March 19, 2011 14:30 GMT
Deadline: March 26, 2011 3:30 GMT

Support

  1. Kaptain K. Rool (talk) - Because I made this proposal.

Oppose

  1. Yoshiwaker (talk) Sysops only edit userpages if they need to. This would let almost anybody put anything on your user page. It's just pointless anyway.
  2. M&SG (talk) - I agree with Yoshiwaker.
  3. Ultrahammer5365 (talk) - Per all. You shouldn't be allowed to mess with other people's userpages.
  4. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Per all. Zero signing out.
  5. Tails777 (talk) Per all
  6. Bowser's luma (talk) Yes, let us support vandalism.
  7. Super Mario Bros. (talk) - Ask a sysop to fix it. I believe the "Keep Your Hands to Yourself" extension was added to the wiki by Porple because vandals were messing with user pages. It makes complete sense that only sysops and the user that owns the user space gets to edit it. And nobody cares if you can edit others' user pages on Wikia, as we aren't Wikia.
  8. Phoenix (talk) No way, I'm sorry, but there's really no reason...
  9. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Imagine a vandal coming onto your userpage and replacing all of your personal information with fake, unnecessary and inappropriate information that could be offensive to you. This is why only sysops can edit other peoples' userpages. If there's a problem with a userpage, you are expected to ask a sysop to remove it. It only takes a minute to ask.
  10. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) - Per all. Only Sysops can be trusted with these powers. In my opinion, you've made just another proposal to suit your personal wants.
  11. Bop1996 (talk) Per all. I like how you have control of your userspace and I don't want a vandal messing up my page, even if I can revert it later.
  12. Yoshidude99 (talk) I don't want some random person editing my userpage.
  13. Reversinator (talk) Per all.
  14. Ralphfan (talk) - Per all.
  15. UltraMario3000 (talk) Per all.
  16. Luigi is OSAM (talk) Ummmm editing another person's page? Most users are autoconfirmed, and you never know when someone could VANDILIZE!
  17. Edofenrir (talk) - None of your points is significant enough to outweight the benefits this extention provides.
  18. SWFlash (talk) I've just imagined how my userpage was edited…that's……:(
  19. Pokémon Trainer Mario (talk) I think once a vandal moved a sysops userpage.
  20. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.
  21. Paper Yoshi (talk) - Per all.
  22. DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk) - Per Bowser's luma and Yoshidude99.
  23. T.c.w7468 (talk) Per all.
  24. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Only if we autoconfirmed users can ONLY have the ability to remove fake new message boxes, but this is all or nothing, so I say nothing. Per all.
  25. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) - Where to begin...hmmm...oh yes, no! There is too much vandals around the wiki to even let this happen. Not only that, but some users don't want other users putting crap on their page.
  26. Gamefreak75 (talk) - Per my comment below and the rest above.
  27. Mariomario64 (talk) - Per all. Plus, why give normal "everyday" users (I guess you could say that) access to editing other users' own pages? If you ask me, that makes no sense.
  28. New Super Mario (talk) I like my userpage and don't want anyone editing my page.
  29. Magikrazy51 (talk)Okay, so if your proposal passes, I'll erase everything and put on it "?". You could lose a lot of data that way. Per all.
  30. Geniusguy445 (talk) Aren't talk page messages enough to offer help? "Your link to [Mario]] should really be [[Mario]]. Glad I could help." Or would it be better to have your entire user page destroyed except for that one correct Mario link.
  31. Count Bonsula (talk) - Per all.
  32. Iggykoopa (talk) per all
  33. Akfamilyhome (talk) Definitely opposing. Having people wreck up your own userpage isn't fun. Why don't inform them about the error on their talk page instead?
  34. Superdaisygirl (talk)I hardly have anything on my page but I still don't want someone making changes to it.

Comments

@Yoshiwaker: We can revert vandalism if they do put junk on our userpages and we do need to help the community too. Kaptain K. Rool (talk)

@Kaptain: Is there ever any really good reason to edit someone else's userpage? Yoshiwaker (talk)
Err yes... to replace images and fix red links. Kaptain K. Rool (talk)
I don't think that's a very good reason, but I'll just stop arguing because this would go on forever. Yoshiwaker (talk)
@Kaptain K. Rool - Well, that may be true, but what happens when some vandal whams your userpage? I mean, do you really want to be constantly looking over your shoulder and reverting edits every other day...? Phoenix (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2011 (EDT)

I think we would need to talk to Steve about this even if the proposal did pass... Marioguy1 (talk)

Also, on Wikia we get to edit others' userpages along with most other wikis
How many of these edits are actually good edits? About 1 in 10, I say. Judging from my userpage at Kirby Wikia, those who have edited it besides me have only inserted derogatory remarks or just complete rubbish on it. Gamefreak75 (talk)

Imagine a vandal coming onto your userpage and replacing all of your personal information with fake, unnecessary and inappropriate information that could be offensive to you.

This. What if people go to my user page and say "I hate (insert any Nintendo character here)!"? It offends me a lot when Kirby or Diddy Kong gets insulted. DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk)

Basically, if a user page has any red links, let the Sysops handle that stuff. That's why the Sysops are here; if you want a user page fixed, just contact me or any other Sysop. M&SG (talk)

@Kaptain K. Rool - Adding on to what I said above: you say we need to "help out the community" by "removing red links, redirect links...along with deleted images," but technically, userpages are not really part of the community in this context. Pretty much the whole point of it being your userpage is that it's, well, your userpage. If other people start editing it left and right, then it's not really just yours anymore is it? That's the one thing that sets userpages apart from every other article on this wiki. In your argument, it seems to me that you're almost saying that the prospect of complete (and possibly recurring) userpage obliteration is better than some of the fairly minor problems you list above. Long story short: the only part of the wiki that we are responsible for improving is the articles. Phoenix (talk) 17:48, 19 March 2011 (EDT)

Look you're just embarrassing yourself with this proposal. It's not going to pass by any means. M&SG (talk)

I can see it possibly working if you could lock off sections of a page. Which would be FANTASTIC! for many articles. E.g. All of the stuff like release dates for past games that aren't going to change could be locked off. But until then...No. Geniusguy445 (talk)

Once upon a time, I used Wikia. And a tale from my past would have to be when I was trolled there. How was I trolled? Well, a user went to my userpage and repeatedly replaced it with insults. Marioguy1 (talk)

Caw? Iggykoopa (talk)

Spam? Reversinator (talk)
Confused? Magikrazy51 (talk)
Without a reason for existence? Bop1996 (talk)
Guys, please don't leave anymore comments about an insubstantial comment. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)
The third line of text here pretty much makes this entire proposal invalid... Phoenix (talk) 05:25, 27 March 2011 (EDT)

Merge all of King Koopa's alter egos into one article

Merge to King Koopa's alter egos 20-3-0

On The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! King Koopa has many alter egos. These alter egos are just him in a different costume. The costumes don't give him any extra abilities, they are only seen for one episode, and while wearing the costumes, King Koopa is no different from when he's not wearing the costumes. Thus, I propose to merge the alter-egos of King Koopa that currently have an article (Al Koopone, Captain Koopa, Emperor Augustus Septemberus Octoberus Koopa,Kid Koopa, Koopa Khan, Koopa Klaus (alter ego), Moon Man Koopa, and Robo Koopa (alter ego)) into a single article. I'd prefer merging them to King Koopa's alter egos, but I'll also add a section to merge them to Bowser.

Proposer: Reversinator (talk)
Voting start: March 20, 2011, 15:50
Deadline: March 27, 2011, 23:59 GMT

Merge to King Koopa's alter egos

  1. Reversinator (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. Walkazo (talk) - Per Reversinator.
  3. Bloc Partier (talk) - Per above.
  4. Reddragon19k (talk) - Per all!
  5. SWFlash (talk) Per Bloc Partier.
  6. Bop1996 (talk) Per all.
  7. Mariomario64 (talk) If they give no special powers and only appear in one episode, then why have separate articles in the first place?
  8. New Super Mario (talk) Per Reversinator
  9. M&SG (talk) - Alter egos really don't need their own articles.
  10. DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk) Per Mariomario64.
  11. Luigi is OSAM (talk) PER ALL
  12. Magikrazy51 (talk) MergemergemergemergemergemergeMERGE! Per all (merge).
  13. Paper Yoshi (talk) - Per Reversinator's comment below (the one after mine).
  14. Geniusguy445 (talk) good idea. per all. Because they were a separate article to begin with. We can do this now, and then allow another proposal if people really want the page to be part of Bowser.
  15. Mpeng (talk) D'accordo
  16. Iggykoopa (talk) per all
  17. TheBreakshift (talk) Per all.
  18. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! what the heck happen to my original vote Per all. Zero signing out.
  19. DKPetey99 (talk) Per all except M&SG
  20. Lu-igi board (talk) per all

Merge to Bowser

  1. Pokémon Trainer Mario (talk) I honestly think this idea is better. Per a- There's no one above me!
  2. DKPetey99 (talk) Bowser is no different than the alter egos, thus, it should merge to Bowser.
  3. Akfamilyhome (talk) Per all? Yeah... but even better you can just add a link that redirects to the alter ego page.

Leave them split

Comments

I agree. Just as how the Super Strikes and Mega Strikes were merged together, these alter egos should be merged together. DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk)

How are you planning on merging? Are you going to add a new column to the table, or do something altogether different. Bop1996 (talk)

I was planning on adding a new column and giving a short description of the alter-ego's role. Reversinator (talk)

Before merging King Koopa, I suggest that you merge Robo Koopa to Robo Suit, because I feel that information belongs there rather than being deleted. Also, what are we going to do with the Featured Article status on Robo Koopa if this proposal passes? BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

The powers of the suit should go there, and like I said before, I'll give a brief summary on King Koopa's alter egos. And if it's merged, there's no point in keeping the FA status. Reversinator (talk)

Although I believe the pages have enough information to stand by themselves, I'll stay open to any opinions before voting, as I never watched The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!. Paper Yoshi (talk)

Most of the info is basically the plot of the episode. Reversinator (talk)
Will this proposal unfeature Robo Koopa? I'm not sure the articles that will be merged will be the same quality. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

While this is going on, how about merging all of the pages on the (sort of borrowing my brother's idea here, please don't add a megabyte of protests to my userpage, again) Super Paper Mario people, and other single-appearance things? Mpeng (talk)

@Mpeng What the heck are you even talking about? King Koopa (Or just Bowser) has nothing to do with Super Paper Mario.UltraMario3000 (talk)
@UltraMario3000 - Didn't say he was. I guess this isn't the time or place. Mpeng (talk)

I think Robo Koopa should keep its own article, and FA status - if it's long enough and good enough, what's the point of merging and losing a great article. Instead, we can just use {{main}}. If we merge it, we're bound to lose some information and that's not good for the Wiki. MrConcreteDonkey (talk)

But that would be inconsistent. Besides, all the information can easily be saved. Robo Koopa (episode) already has a complete record of events, so shortening the alter ego's History into a summary isn't an issue. The Trivia about the RoboCop and Terminator reference can also go into the episode page, and the Powers and Abilities chart can go into Robo Suit (along with the other Trivia point about the "destroy you miserable little meddlers" button). So the only thing we'd be losing is an entry in out list of FAs, but that's a small price to pay for a much more efficient and consistent organization of Koopa's 30+ alter egos. - Walkazo (talk)

Merge Minor NPCs with their location

DON'T MERGE 1-16

There are a lot of articles for minor NPCs in RPGs that are too minor to be their own article. I believe we should merge them with the location where they are, so they can be found easily. Also, many of these articles are stubs anyway, so it would also get rid of some stubs.

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Input new rules for name changing

DON'T INPUT 1-19

I used up my 2 chances to change my name, but I find my current name to be too long. I say to increase the number of times we can change our names to three, and place a limit on how many letters, numbers, spaces, etc. to 20. It saves users from making their second (and last) name change, then realizing that the username is too long.

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